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my character claim is a little sus cuz it is probably less specific than most,
my role claim is probably NOT chocolate or praline
5. oromagi
TOWN
11.warren42
8. ILikePie5
2. Bearman
3. RationalMadman
7. User_2006
1. Crocodile
AWOL
4. SupaDudz
6. PressF4Respect
9. WaterPhoenix
10. LittleCookie08
SCUM
UVC
LittleCookie08 (1/6) - Pie
SupaDudz (1/6) - Oro
User_2006(1/6) - Croc
PressF4Respect (1/6) - Rat
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@Vader
(forst things first)
VTL SupaDudz
cuz he's a big boy now
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@User_2006
So far, this sounds too much like a bare monologue
I don't know if its monologue so much as expression but I admit this series does not lend itself to a lot of conversation. Sometimes folks add their own posts to the theme, sometimes people change their profile pic to match the theme but both infrequently. Conversation is not discouraged but the subject is basically just what I'm doing with my profile pic, which I am also fine with not talking about. Mostly its just about marking time and mood.
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@Vader
Happy BIrthday, dudz.
Instead of a panic of manics deranged,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of some drama like lawyers engaged,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa sup-pa-pa-dudz
Instead of troll drooling and boozing insane,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of complaining 'bout raining and pain,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa sup-pa-pa-dud
Instead of ill feelings of anger and shame,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of accusing and grousing and flame,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
papa soup, papa soup
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
like a bag of poop, set SupaDudz aflame
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@ILikePie5
Well run game, Pie. I liked the use of lots of classic roles. I agree with your assessment on balance.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
-> @oromagithat doesn't show that because of blm in 2014 that lowered those numbers, that apparently isn't available.
- No, but that's not what you asked for. You asked for proof that police killings were up before 2014. I gave you FBI UCR for 2009-13.
- Nobody has claimed that BLM lowered those police killings after 2014.
- I stated that after 2014 the FBI stats got more honest about the number of police killings
- Here's a 538 report about those numbers.
- I stated that "in the three full reporting years since, the number of killings by police has leveled off."
- The source you provided (WashPo) documents my claim well enough:
- "By the end of 2015, officers had fatally shot nearly 1,000 people, twice as many as ever documented in one year by the federal government. the next year, however, police nationwide again shot and killed nearly 1,000 people. Then they fatally shot about the same number in 2017 — and have done so for every year after that, according to The Post’s ongoing count. Since 2015, police have shot and killed 5,400 people."
- That is also my claim: after 2014, police killings leveled off.
- Get it? It's not that the cops suddenly killed twice (actually triple if we accept the BJS high end estimate) as many people in 2015, its that the FBI worked much harder to report a real number. Its that BLM protests created pressure that revealed among other things that at least the majority of all police killings weren't getting reported to the main police shooting database.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Before Black Lives Matter, US citizens were getting killed by police at increasing rateproof? I believe the fbi stats don't support your claims
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@MisterChris
I don't buy the premise that Black Lives Matter's goal is the advancement of Black communities. BLM's stated goal is far narrower than that:
"We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise."
You call SAFETY an advancement in position for the black community but in our democracy, safety from government violence is an inalienable right enjoyed by all regardless of skin color, recognized by the American people as inherent to every American citizen at birth.
Before Black Lives Matter, US citizens were getting killed by police at increasing rate in spite of historic decreases in violent crime overall as well as decreased violence against police. After Black Lives Matter began to organize protests in 2014 and as a direct result of those protests, the Federal Govt was exposed as failing in its responsibilities for police oversight and accountability, the US Dept of Justice dramatically tripled its annual estimates of police violence and at least 7 major crowd-sourced databases were created to further ensure government accuracy in future reports. In the three full reporting years since, the number of killings by police has leveled off. Black Lives Matter improved the condition of American Democracy (and thereby, American society) by providing a necessary check on and accounting for violence by state actors in the absence of sufficient checks and accurate accounting by the state itself.
Generally, I think concern about socioeconomic POSITION of communities divided by skin color is a Republican perspective entirely out of accord with the national mood and modern interpretation of American democracy. Yes, such concern is also reflected in the traditional politics of Black communities (NAACP=National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, for example) but my understanding is that BLM rejects such anachronisms (Black or White) as "narrow nationalism." The present theory is that if government would only apply justice equally to all Americans and demonstrate far less favor towards the rich than the corrupt present paradigm, Americans will handle their own advancement and according to more various concerns than mere socioeconomic position.
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@Vader
@PressF4Respect
there was no NK.
Who did Supa RB?
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@PressF4Respect
I have innocent results on Supa and Speed. I have guilty result on Cookie. If I am insane that would mean both Supa and Speed are mafia and there's only one mafia left (assuming RM is mafia) I might be random COP or some kind of alternator but the odds of that seem very unlikely looking at everybody's claim. I don't see the theme split but cookie's hyperlurk, poor defense and outre clam make me reasonably confident that the result is straightforward.
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@PressF4Respect
Speed is Clay- the main character.
Cookie copped guilty last night. I am hoping that Supa confirms he RB'd Cookie
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I have a guilty result on cookie. I am COP and I now have very high confidence in this result.
VTL Cookie
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I'd like to hear others talk about theme but I'm about 85% sold on Bearman
VTL BearMan
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@warren42
I’ve thought about it but if our reads are wrong it’s deadly. What does town think?
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Let's consider theme:
If RM is really Jessica Davis than scum with Justin Foley makes some sense since they were a couple.
But if Justin is scum, Clay makes a pretty solid scum partner too- they're practically brothers.
VISITOR is not a bad claim for a GODFATHER and we should expect that scum are just as high powered as town.
Does anybody have any theme/split theories?
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@Speedrace
why wait so long to character claim when no scum was likely to claim the main character of the show?
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@warren42
Your crumb is pretty complicated and I doubt anyone would've ever gotten it but whatever.
they are supposed to be too complicated to figure out but Ive gotten several complaints that I make them too easy and risk giving away PRs
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SCUM
?ACTRESS?
I consider Speed, Supa nearly confirmed. I like Press and Warren's claim because Press came out early and both made claims that increase TOWN desire to kill.
I don't like Cookie's claim because that character is barely barely in the season while all other claims are basically in every episode. VANILLA should be a safe claim but everybody else has a power role so a little sus there as well.
I don't like BearMan's claim for multiple reasons
- missed counterclaim
- claims watched Croc DP2 and saw Supa visit before Croc's NK- which seems to be a ploy to throw sus at Supa. If Supa is scum RB, not likely also NK.
- claims X2 when nobody else has limited powers. Why a X2 Watcher but not an X2 Tracker?
- this follows RM's X2 claim and seems to be a ploy to increase cred ("see, there was an X2!")
- Watcher and Tracker and COP seems like too many info roles
- claims only one watch out of 3 opportunities- seems too conservative
None of that is a slam dunk but I like BearMan's claims the least
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The objective of the cryptic claim is to lock my claim early with sufficient coding so that the claim is not revealed until I want it revealed but also make it so specific that it could not possibly be any other claim than the one I make.
Q:what do you get when you cross
an abominable snowman
+
lemon candy
+
a circus buffoon
?
YETI
+
DROP
+
CLOWN
=
YETIDROPCLOWN crossed (anagrammed)=
I, Tyler Down, COP
DP1=COPPED SupaDudz = innocent!
DP2=COPPED Speedrace=innocent!
DP3=COPPED Warren42=action failed (dudz claims RB)
I suppose I might be flavored but based on gameplay I am trusting these results
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@warren42
agreed, which is why I like press's claim
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@PressF4Respect
--> @oromagiAnother cryptic enigma claim... yay.
Which locks in my claim early for improved cred vs. counter claims
This is LYLO. We don't have time to mess around. Full claim now.
5 town vs 2 scum
this is not LYLO and we have three days
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@Vader
Supa-
Can you confirm BearMan's claim that you visited Croc DP2?
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@BearMan
Well, I'd go afk too if was you.
So, we have a claim of WATCHER X2 who
- Didn't counterclaim in DP2 when RatMan claimed WATCHER X2 and
- DIdn't sound the alarm when he allegedly watched Supa visit the NK on NP2
- Hasn't advised whether he watched or not on DP3.
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@BearMan
wdym.Pie only told me who visited him not the action.
I mean DP3
Who did you watch DP3?
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@BearMan
I didn't watch on DP 1 but I watched Croc on DP2 and he got visited by SupaDudz.
and....?
quickly now
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@BearMan
Who did you WATCH on which DPs?
this should be ready knowledge. The longer you take to answer the more sus
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@Vader
i wish you had waited until Bearman locked in watches, tho
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@PressF4Respect
I locked in my claim DP1 post #20. Anybody figure it out?
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@Vader
I was just about to ask you if you had something to confess
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@BearMan
The reason I didn't counterclaim RM was because I didn't want to reveal my power role.
Wow. I hate that reason.
I like your character claim, tho.
Who did you WATCH on which DPs?
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@fauxlaw
- I indulge in 1, 3, and 4 regularly and with no apology.....sorry.
- What about misspellings in the subject heading?
- Isn't your bacon so much better when its fried?
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@Speedrace
Any reason you are holding out on character?
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@BearMan
Pls. provide full claim or 13 reasons why a full claim is counterindicated
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@warren42
DP4 is far too late to expect forgiveness.
I see 3 versions of VIRGIN on mafiascum and a fourth variation on Drafterman's list.... which virgin version are you?
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@skittlez09
not really....no other VANILLA claims, every other character claim is far more central to the plot than yours.
Can you paraphrase your justification?
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Let's note that Amara is a fairly scummy claim- She appears briefly in the Season 4 opener to drop off her daughter in a new home and never appears again. She has no role in the S4 plot and has a total of 5 lines.
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Can anybody verify that they received a message from Simply?
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@skittlez09
I'm assuming that you are going to continue to lurk so I think we should have your full claim now.
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