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Please UNVOTE and VTL Speedrace without any errors, see if the result changes.
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OK, that is interesting.
So, Wylted is saying that he's VTL'ing Speedrace but Supa is refusing to record that vote.
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@Wylted
-->@oromagiIt would take all 10-15 million doctors in the world just to go along the fake testing proceduresAbsolutely not. It only takes flawed testing methods.
You only say that because you are ignorant about the nature of the testing. Polymerase Chain Reaction tests for COVID and Flu both have excellent specificity and exclusivity- no competent health professional would mistake a COVID chain for a flu chain and almost of health professionals would have to be involved to disguise flu chains for COVID.
My block has 3 emergency room nurses from different hospitals who would have required significant intervention just to get those women t pretend to work 80 hour weeks for this past yearI honestly would not be shocked if they were simultaneously letting people go, while forcing the remaining staff to work more hours. It isn't uncommon in a lot of industries. Especially if they are under paying nurses.
Well then you would have the documentary responsibility to show massive layoffs in the healthcare industry, which would be easy to document if it weren't the 180 degree opposite of true. The truth is that the healthcare industry has been devastated by the epidemic and has been desperate for help since the pandemic began.
Claims of Satan worship always begin with false witnesses like you and only last for long among the most ignorant and gullible populations.False witnesses were not necessarily malevolent. A lot of the ways children were questioned by psychologists, contributed to false memories, we also have to account for hysteria and those with mental illness. 3 contributing factors that have nothing to do with malevolence or a conspiracy. Mass delusions can happen.
I didn't say malevolent like you, I said false like you. You inferred malevolence which gives us a pretty good read on your own self-perception.
That billions believe something doesn't make it true but not believing something just because billions believe it is just as much faith-based sillinesss as the former.Both are logical fallacies, but you lean on the first one. You constantly resort to an appeal to the majority and an appeal to experts, without looking at their premises and instead focusing on their proselytizing remarks that gloss over their premises.
I know you won't understand this but America is built on trusting the wisdom of consensus, not a belief that the consensus is infallible or even necessarily well-informed but that consensus must be respected as wise. I trust the scientific method and repeatable results and rely heavily on experts who follow the same methodology.
Scientists and Democrats don't take any premise for granted or proselytize. I have never tried to convert you--I have only tried to demonstrate that you a willfully and persistently wrong on almost every subject.
Yeah, yeah. Hate America. Love Putin. Got itIf you think non state actors aren't motivated to create ransom ware that earns them millions of dollars, you are a retard.
If you think Putin permits pirates to live inside the protection of his military's firewalls without paying tribute to the king and obeying that king's commands, then you are as misinformed as ever. There are no squatters living rent-free on Russian or Chinese networks (or many other nations' networks, for that matter), since that kind of activity is easy to detect within a well-monitored network. Even on the deep dark web it is pretty hard to survive for long without some kind of govt's protection. That's why as soon as the American CNServers refused to guard VanwaTech's IP addresses anymore because of corrupting influences of Jim Watkin's QAnon/8kun/Stormfront server operating out of the Phillipines, VanwaTech switched to the Russian Ministry of Defence's DDoS-Guard.
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@Speedrace
Also for what it's worth, 10 players is the perfect amount for a 3P
but Supa told us.
2. Everyones wincon is either "You win with town" or "You win with mafia"
If this is true than no TP.
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Also for what it's worth, 10 players is the perfect amount for a 3P
but Supa told us.
2. Everyones wincon is either "You win with town" or "You win with mafia"
If this is true than no TP.
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@Wylted
The Russians are a scapegoat for the ransomware attacks as well. At least it's government. This problem has been plaguing local municipalities for a decade, and they almost always pay, incentives g future attacks.
Yeah, yeah. Hate America. Love Putin. Got it.
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@Wylted
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Is you claim that only Russian backed news sites are biased?
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Wylted's evidence that several billion people have conspired against him to try to make him believe covid is real is that they've done it before to try to make him believe that aliens have not visited planet earth.It would take less than 100 people.
It would take all 10-15 million doctors in the world just to go along the fake testing procedures as well as most of their healthcare support systems- say 200-300 million people conservatively. I live next to 3 major hospitals and just the pantomime of the thousands of ambulance trips, night and day all winter would have required thousands of people to perform. My block has 3 emergency room nurses from different hospitals who would have required significant intervention just to get those women t pretend to work 80 hour weeks for this past year and sob about the catastrophes visiting all their workplaces. Just to fool me alone would have required maybe ten thousand people.
In fact it can be an unintentional hoax with none involved. You know like how UFOs aren't literally a billion people trying to fool you. Covid19 would just need things like news organizations needing a big story to sell more papers and j I moping on things, a naive public and maybe covid tests that can't differentiate between the flu and covid19.
In fact, we can test for flu and COVID simultaneously because they require different genetic primers. All 15 million doctors would have to be working together to pretend that the COVID genetic primer is just the flu primer.
I'm showing how the fallacy of just trusting the masses, the same masses who caused the satanic panic, the British dancing disease, and the Salem witch trials is stupid.
Dancing disease was real enough, spasms brought on by grain molds and common to all rye and wheat growing areas, although the reports of spasms were much exaggerated.
Claims of Satan worship always begin with false witnesses like you and only last for long among the most ignorant and gullible populations.
His claim is basically that lots of people believe some shit, so that makes it true. It's essentially what you are saying as well. That billions believe the same thing, so in order for that belief to be false, your low IQ makes you think they have to be coordinating something.
False. His claim (and mine) is that billions of people would have to be working in coordination just to try fool you and a handful of other people, all of whom have a long history of believing many different ignorant and gullible claims. Why would anybody work that hard to fool the people who are easiest to fool?
Meanwhile, just a small sampling of your interactions on this website demonstrates that you have a real problem with acknowledging and telling the truth under any and all circumstances. Your inner troll constantly compels you to discover what lies you can tell with what consequence. Remember when that football player fainted before a game a few weeks abck and you instantly falsely reported that he died of coronavirus without any evidence? That billions believe something doesn't make it true but not believing something just because billions believe it is just as much faith-based sillinesss as the former.
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@Wylted
>@oromagidid you see my link where Jews admit their own faked a pandemic?
My standing presumption is that all of your links contain Russian ransomware viruses.
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@Earth
Its totally a scummy vote though. You don't go "lol you scum because you didn't full claim" as town when they are L-2. So exhausting.
Nope. You are at L-1. If you are TOWN, you claim. If you don't claim, we lynch. If it turns out you were scum, great. If it turns out you were TOWN, then you weren't playing pro-TOWN anyway so no big loss.
If you are TOWN, you have no legit cause not to claim asap.
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@Double_R
-->@Double_Rnever ceases to amaze me how someone will call CNN or the New York Times fake and then get their news from Kenan SonOfEnos.All 3 have the same caliber reporting. The only things you can trust are unbiased experts. Like foreign affairs magazine or the economist etc. Mainstream news is shit.
Thus establishing that Wylted is incapable of recognizing the distinction between the NY Times reporting and raw feed Russian propaganda. I don't think we need to give Wylted the even least bit of credit as free thinker capable of any objective evaluation of media bias.
If COVID was a hoax the entire world would have to be in on it. Please tell me you are jokingIf UFOs did not visit us, it would require a hoax on a major scale. Millions lying, officers in the military or airforce risking their reputations lying etc. Etc.You see your fallacy now?
Fallacy of Canceling Hypotheses
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The argument defends one hypothesis by proposing a second hypothesis to explain the lack of evidence in support of the first hypothesis. That is, the second hypothesis cancels or undermines the predictions made by the first hypothesis.
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The argument defends one hypothesis by proposing a second hypothesis to explain the lack of evidence in support of the first hypothesis. That is, the second hypothesis cancels or undermines the predictions made by the first hypothesis.
Wylted's evidence that several billion people have conspired against him to try to make him believe covid is real is that they've done it before to try to make him believe that aliens have not visited planet earth.
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@Wylted
the news certainly reported that, while hospitals slowly shut down due to not having enough patients, and nurses did tik tok videos with all their free time at work.
We debunked these claims in London last Christmas fairly readily.
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-->@sadoliteWhat's new?
Nothing. The State Dept. caught China authoring articles on this same website last summer saying the same thing- the Coronavirus is not real but also the Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan, and several articles saying the coronavirus was designed in the US. The State Dept. has identified this website as one of Russia's principle venues for propagating anti-American propaganda.
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@Wylted
The jews have faked pandemics before .
We get it, you hate Jews. I suppose these are the crypto-Jews of Wuhan this time.
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@sadolite
You can either post links to Russian disinformation campaigns targeting our gullible populations or you can be a loyal US citizen but you can't do both.
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@sadolite
globalresearch.ca has been one of the most famous sources of Russian disinformation for 20 years. Last August, Trump's own State Dept. warned
"Global Research is a Canadian website that has
become deeply enmeshed in Russia’s broader
disinformation and propaganda ecosystem. Its large
roster of fringe authors and conspiracy theorists
serves as a talent pool for Russian and Chinese
websites. Its publications also provide a Western
voice that other elements of the ecosystem can
leverage to their advantage."
According to the Globe, NATO's Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence (StratCom) believed that the site was playing a "key accelerant role in helping popularize articles with little basis in fact that also happen to fit the narratives being pushed by the Kremlin" and the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad. The report described the site as an "online refuge for conspiracy theorists" and suggested that NATO specialists viewed it as "a link in a concerted effort to undermine the credibility of mainstream Western media—as well as the North American and European public's trust in government and public institutions.
Chossudovsky is a board member of other pro-Russian websites which attempt to spread conspiracy theories.
An article on Global Research making the false assertion that the Coronavirus pandemic was not real was carried by 70 other outlets, according to the August 2020 State department report. Chossudovsky himself has described it as being a "manufactured pandemic". Earlier in 2020, his list of 10 questions was tweeted by the foreign minister of Iran. They included the claim that the United States government was responsible for the international coronavirus pandemic. Global Research published an article entitled "COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US" was posted on social media by a senior official in the Chinese foreign ministry. Chinese state media have reported such unfounded speculation which has been carried by Chossudovsky's website with, according to The Globe and Mail, misattributed sources.
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GlobalResearch often reports unfavorably about Israel such as this: The Zionist Idea Has Never Been More Terrifying than It Is Today. This unlabeled opinion piece does not provide a single source of evidence for their claims. When it comes to politics, they are strongly anti-capitalist and anti-Globalist, as their name suggests. While GlobalResearch does promote legitimate humanitarian concerns, its views on science, economics, and geopolitics are questionable. For example, GR promotes anti-vaccination propaganda, 9-11 as a false flag operation, GMOs are harmful, and Chemtrails. There are so many more; this is just the tip of the iceberg.
In general, this is a website the purports to be concerned for humanity yet routinely publishes false information that misleads humanity.
Failed Fact Checks
- “The most likely triggering cause of (microcephaly)” is the “DTaP shot, a vaccine that had been recently mandated by the Brazilian government to be injected into pregnant women.” – False
- Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? – False
- “There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus” – Inaccurate
- “vaccines had cancer enzymes in them” – Inaccurate
Overall, we rate GlobalResearch a Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy and Strong Pseudoscience website based on the promotion of unproven information such as the dangers of Vaccines and 9-11 as a false flag operation.
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Earth's post was a good observation of OP-
2. Everyones wincon is either "You win with town" or "You win with mafia"
essentially modconfs the absence of 3rd party
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Riots and comedy are but symptoms of the times, profoundly revealing. They betray the psychological tone, the deep uncertainties... And the striving for something better, plus the fear that nothing would come of it all.
"Appendix II: The Religion of Dune"
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Life — all life — is in the service of life
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There is in all things a pattern that is part of our universe. It has symmetry, elegance, and grace - those qualities you find always in that which the true artist captures. You can find it in the turning of the seasons, in the way sand trails along a ridge, in the branch clusters of the creosote bush or the pattern of its leaves. We try to copy these patterns in our lives and our society, seeking the rhythms, the dances, the forms that comfort. Yet, it is possible to see peril in the finding of ultimate perfection. It is clear that the ultimate pattern contains it own fixity. In such perfection, all things move toward death.
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- Hunter coverup getting scary.
- Fox/Trump Immoral Handling of covid19
- Resolved: There is not systemic racism in United States government, as a whole.
- Constantine the Great should not be considered a mainstream Christian, because he was actually a heretic
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@Polyglot
-->@oromagiYwwTSupa said that all the wincons are the same.
Yeah, but sometimes scum forgets to read the OPs.
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@Wylted
I catch shit from oromagi because he somehow believes PMing other players during the game is somehow cheating even though the PM is not in any shape or form game related, but he will literally use cryptography and PM analysis.
I believe this because that is what the rules say, somehow.
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@TheUnderdog
It's a shithole because Puerto Ricans pay high taxes for nationalized services that are of poor quality.
This is quite false, man. Puerto Rico is a famous tax haven because "Not all Puerto Rican employees and corporations pay federal income taxes. Federal law requires payment of federal income tax from the following residents and corporations only: federal government employees in Puerto Rico, residents who are members of the United States military, those with income sources outside of Puerto Rico, those individuals or corporations who do business with the federal government, and those Puerto Rico-based corporations that intend to send funds to the United States." Therefore, Puerto Rico is a popular place to retire- it's cheap and Federal taxes are easily avoided.
Puerto Rico is not a foreign country. There are no nationalized services beyond the Federal services mostly shared in common with the rest of their fellow citizens.
Puerto Rico is traditionally the number one tourist destination in the Caribbean, it competes with Cuba but benefits from America's bad relationship with Cuba. Puerto Rico is famous for its beaches, its fishing, it's surfing, San Juan is certainly the nicest city of any size in the Caribbean, with cruise ships stopping every night and famous eating and music , the rum-making capitol of the world, a rich history going back to Columbus and twenty casinos. Americans also like it because its cheap and you need no passport and everybody speaks pretty good English. I don't think anybody has any reasonable grounds to call it a shithole anything but the country is America, just for your information, and the people want to be our 51st State.
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-->@TheUnderdogThe cost of this idea would be less than 1% of the annual US military budget.this isnt about cost, this is about the libertarian argument of "government shouldn't incentivize behavior" if you do this, you are literally incentivizing people to leave the US.
Puerto Rico is part of the USA.
This is false; they fled PR's high taxes.oh dear, no-"high taxes" isnt why they fled. They fled because their country is a shithole.
Their country is the USA.
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-->@oromagiIF US schoolchildren were required to take a Spanish course K-12 and Spanish were one of two official languages in the US so that government documents were published in both languages and 2/3rds of all people who identified as Americans lived spent some or all of their lives in Spanish speaking countriesUS children primarily take Spanish as a foreign language,
Apples to Oranges. Only 18.5% of mainland schoolchildren study any foreign language K-12. You are falsely comparing ALL PR schoolchildren taking 13 years of English language by law vs. 1 in 5 mainland students studying Spanish for a year or two.
Spanish is one of the 2 official languages of New Mexico, yet I wouldn't call the typical person there fluent in Spanish as most New Mexicans aren't.
50% of New Mexican are Hispanic and about 80% of that group speaks Spanish "very well." The State Constitution requires laws to published in Spanish, schools are required to provide Spanish speaking teachers and in court one may defend oneself or testify in Spanish. If you've spent much time in the population centers (Albuquerque, Las Cruces, Santa Fe) you'd know that one can manage quite nicely in any of these cities speaking Spanish entirely or English. Fluent is Spanish is a rather high bar (I am not claiming that Puerto RIcans are fluent in English either but only better at English than the average ESL immigrant and therefore, well assimilated) but the average New Mexican knows a hell of a lot more Spanish than the average American. New Mexico was even more Spanish speaking when it became a State. If New Mexicans were sufficiently assimilated to merit Statehood in 1912, I'd argue that Puerto RIco is more assimilated and therefore ready for Statehood now.
I also don't believe the majority of Puerto Ricans have spent a significant amount of time in the US as they would almost certainly know English if they did.
Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to the fact that Puerto Ricans have a long tradition of circular migration to and from the mainland. At present about 5.9 million who id as Puerto Rican live on the mainland compared 3.1 million on the island. Only 20% of Puerto Ricans say they speak English "less than very well." That's way higher than any other Hispanic group- 80% speak English very well or at least they think they do.
Unlike most Americans, Puerto Rico did not chose US citizenship so I would say they do not share the ordinary immigrant's obligation to assimilate.which this contradicts your claim here:but all Puerto Ricans study English in school so the overwhelming majority have reasonable English comprehension
No contradiction there. Puerto Ricans strive to assimilate in spite of not being obligated. This same embrace of the American mainstream is demonstrated by the fact that Puerto Ricans join the military at higher rates than any other group.
Nevertheless, I would argue that the average Puerto Rican is already well assimilated and point to many representative outstanding citizens like Lin Manuel-Miranda, Bruno Mars, Carmelo Anthony, Rosario Dawson, Luis Guzman, Aubrey Plaza, Benicio del Toro, Roberto Clemente, Jimmy Smits, Bad Bunny, etc as examples.
There are some wealthy Puerto Ricans that were able to move to the US and assiliminate. This does not represent the majority of Puerto Ricans. The Puerto Ricans should assiliminate.
65% of all Puerto Ricans live on the mainland now, twice as many as live on the island. 80% of Puerto Ricans speak good English. The overwhelming majority of Puerto Ricans have lived some part of their life on the mainland. I would say that Puerto Ricans are already very well assimilated and indeed established in American Society. Your proposal will probably fulfill itself naturally and without any govt spending if you just wait a few years.
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-->@Discipulus_DidicitWhile you're right here I don't think that necessarily means Wylted is SCUM unless there are fake claims given to the SCUM team. If there aren't fake claims given, he is still TOWN in my book for claiming first.
If the last few games have taught us anything it is that Wylted is a far greater threat to TOWN when playing TOWN than when playing SCUM.
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Let's note that Wylted was just saying 8 days ago that In-and-Out burger was his favorite chain:
If he was choosing his own fast food claim, In-and-Out would be his likeliest claim. Now, he claimed first and unless Sup is giving him a fake claim he'd have no assurance that In-and-Out would not be a very likely choice, so I'm prepared to believe this coincidence unless Wylted is cc'd, in which case I trust him least.
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-->@oromagiYou are subtracting the 24% English fluency rate from the general pop but all Puerto Ricans study English in school so the overwhelming majority have reasonable English comprehension even if they speak Spanish by choice and are more fluent in Spanish.Claiming that Puerto Ricans have reasonable English comprehension because they take the language in school and now some English is like saying America is fluent in Spanish because people learn it in school.
Not even close. IF US schoolchildren were required to take a Spanish course K-12 and Spanish were one of two official languages in the US so that government documents were published in both languages and 2/3rds of all people who identified as Americans lived spent some or all of their lives in Spanish speaking countries, then THAT would be the equivalent of claiming that Puerto Ricans have reasonable English comprehension.
Pretty much every kid learned some English or Spanish worldwide in school. That doesn't mean they are fluent in the language. If more Puerto Ricans know English than any other language, than I would say Puerto Rico is an English speaking place. In the meantime, they should assiliminate to the English language.
Unlike most Americans, Puerto Rico did not chose US citizenship so I would say they do not share the ordinary immigrant's obligation to assimilate. Nevertheless, I would argue that the average Puerto Rican is already well assimilated and point to many representative outstanding citizens like Lin Manuel-Miranda, Bruno Mars, Carmelo Anthony, Rosario Dawson, Luis Guzman, Aubrey Plaza, Benicio del Toro, Roberto Clemente, Jimmy Smits, Bad Bunny, etc as examples.
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glad speed is back. We are basically brothers
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Added08.04.21 02:45PM-->@oromagi80% of Puerto Ricans living in Puerto Rico don't know English and this is a problem.
Nonsense. You are subtracting the 24% English fluency rate from the general pop but all Puerto Ricans study English in school so the overwhelming majority have reasonable English comprehension even if they speak Spanish by choice and are more fluent in Spanish. Although Spanish speaking TV stations are the most popular, networks like FOX do just fine broadcasting in English.
The virgin islands are too small to be a state. PR and the US VI should merge.
That is why I included VI in a discussion re: PR.
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If the purpose is to make Puerto Ricans more like continental Americans than I think the purpose is already accomplished. 5.5 million people who identify as Puerto Rican live in the 50 states compared to 3 million on the actual island. Puerto Ricans in the 50 states commonly move back to Puerto Rico at some point so there is already very significant cultural transmission. English is a mandatory high school course although most Puerto Ricans prefer Spanish at home, along with about 13% of all Americans. I'd say your plan has already been implemented- 2/3rds of Puerto Ricans are already living in the US and speaking English.
Let's get statehood accomplished for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands as soon as possible.
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So your position is keep civil unions legal but allow churches the right to refuse same sex ceremonies, right?
My position is that the word marriage carries rights and privileges I demand as a US citizen and I don't care what any religion has to say about it. Civil union was a Clinton Era compromise that we need no longer give any fucks about.
It's not a question of allowing churches to refuse, Government simply has no power to dictate sanctity and ceremony to any religious institution, no matter how bigoted.
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-->@oromagiI think the federal government should encourage people to get vaccinated, but this can't be by force. We also should vaccinate people in other countries to build foreign relations; something we are going to need against China.
I don't think there's much chance of force. FOX News has figured out that they're killing their electorate and have changed their tune on vaccinations. This should free up the Trumpists to follow their own judgement for a bit regarding vaccination. The progress of this disease suggests that it won't stop until the whole world has antibodies, either from a tiny infection by vaccination or by bad infection by increasingly virulent variants.
We should help vaccinate the world as quickly as possible to keep the disease from mutating into something much worse.
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Your premise is faulty.
so they aren't forcing the church to do something that violates their religious beliefs.
No church is forced to so something that violates their religious beliefs. No church is required to perform a queer marriage if it doesn't want to.
Relatively speaking, very few churches choose to perform the rites of marriage for queer people.
The First Amendment prevents Govt from making any law that segregates by religion, since that is clearly respecting the establishment of some religions- marriage for some religiously correct, civil unions for those who fail these religious tests. We can either get government out of the marriage business entirely and so gays may marry as they please or create a federal standard for marriage that's available to all citizens;
According to the Government Accountability Office (GAO) in 2004, more than 1,138 federal rights and protections are conferred to U.S. citizens upon marriage; areas affected include Social Security benefits, veterans' benefits, health insurance, Medicaid, hospital visitation, estate taxes, retirement savings, pensions, family leave, and immigration law.
The Supreme Court correctly ruled that the government has no right to refuse me these protections based on any religious argument.
The best argument for marriage over civil union is that it makes queers the same as everybody else. As States began to legalize gay marriage beginning in 2005, a pronounced drop in teen suicides was associated with each legalization as it legalized- an average of 14%. An estimated 134,000 fewer suicides are directly associated with queer people deciding to live after the legalization of marriage.
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-->@oromagiOK, but the subject of your topic is SCIENCE- how SCIENCE lost the public's trust. If we're all on the same page now about how that statement is total bullshit, then shouldn't we shut this topic down and then you could start a new topic where you can try to blame the media for your discontentsno this is perfectly acceptable for this thread1."sceince" says to stay home for covid2."science" says that not staying home will increase covid cases3."science" doesnt say this for the mass protests from BLM
This is a lie. So far, you've taken one black doctor who writes a medical column and tweets a lot and pretended that he is "science" Originally, you falsely accused
Fauci of saying this and I disproved you. Now, you've found one random dude and called him "science" SCIENCE as an institution consistently said to stay home last summer and made it clear that included political protests. You believe this lie because FOX news repeats it to you frequently, not because there is any truth to it.
4."science" lies and the media reports that the protests didnt cause covid cases
This is false. SCIENCE as an institution found a statistically significant but relatively small increase in COVID cases due to the protests after George Floyd's murder. The media generally reported this fact. The fact that you believe otherwise is because FOX News writes your belief system for you, not because you have looked into the facts yourself.
Therefore, science loses the publics trust
We've already shown this to be false. Trust in science increased during the pandemic, not decreased. Kings and churches and those loyal to Kings and churches have always hated science because science undermines their authority. Science never lost the trust of those right-wingers because it never had their trust to begin with.
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