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WINCON JUSTIFICATION NICKNAME
Whiteflame "you win with the town" doesn't think justf. useful *
drlebronksi "you are town" * *
greyparrot "I'm a member of the town" Zak Jesen's bully The Hammer
Supa "you are town" (2nd) * *
Earth "TUF gave townies dif. wincons * The Lunatik
Wylted asks for everybody else's justf.
iLikePie5 "You are aligned with those that win with the town" no good justf.
Polyglot Held cage, said didn't The Nigerian Nightmare
MisterChris good justf. The Crippler
Oromagi "you are a town member" no good justf. Nitrane
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@ILikePie5
What do you think of the fact that Supa is the only wincon claimed that duplicates somebody else's wincon?
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@ILikePie5
Welcome to my game "The Ultimate Fighter Villains"!This was a show up I grew up watching, being a huge UFC fan since I was 16. Dana White (the CEO of UFC) created this show as a competition for up and comers to prove their worth in a bracket style MMA competition. The winner of the competition earns a 6 figure UFC contract, and the coaches of both teams fight at the end of the show. The show was popularized during the surge of reality TV shows. All events that happen are real on the show, and with a bunch of testerone filled MMA fighters, the show runners knew there was bound to be drama. We are now 29 seasons into the show.This theme was the basis of my DDO username, and it's long overdue for me to do a theme related to this. That said I do like to make my games friendly to people who aren't familiar with my themes. The theme split in this game will not be complicated. Mafia will be given no fake claims either. I want to start my games in a direction that encourages some theme research, and with non complex theme splits I think it isn't too damaging.By villains, I mean "people who were controversial or deemed to be bullies in the competition".
I think Supa read the OP more closely than you did.
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WINCON JUSTIFICATION NICKNAME
Whiteflame "you win with the town" doesn't think justf. useful *
drlebronksi "you are town" * *
greyparrot "I'm a member of the town" Zak Jesen's bully The Hammer
Supa "you are town" * *
Earth "TUF gave townies dif. wincons * The Lunatik
Wylted asks for everybody else's justf.
iLikePie5 no good justf.
Polyglot Held cage, said didn't The Nigerian Nightmare
MisterChris good justf. The Crippler
Oromagi "you are a town member" no good justf. Nitrane
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@Wylted
@oromagiit makes me feel like whiteflame hates the game
People are dying, man. What human being with a soul would want to make it a game?
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Guess Wylted's shooting for number 13.
MAJORITY of COVID MISINFORMATION CAME from 12 PEOPLE, REPORT FINDSCCDH finds ‘disinformation dozen’ have combined following of 59 million people across multiple social media platformsOn Facebook alone, the dozen are responsible for 73% of all anti-vaccine content, though the vaccines have been deemed safe and effective by the US government and its regulatory agenciesErum SalamSat 17 Jul 2021 14.34 EDTThe vast majority of Covid-19 anti-vaccine misinformation and conspiracy theories originated from just 12 people, a report by the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) cited by the White House this week found.CCDH, a UK/US non-profit and non-governmental organization, found in March that these 12 online personalities they dubbed the “disinformation dozen” have a combined following of 59 million people across multiple social media platforms, with Facebook having the largest impact. CCDH analyzed 812,000 Facebook posts and tweets and found 65% came from the disinformation dozen. Vivek Murthy, US surgeon general, and Joe Biden focused on misinformation around vaccines this week as a driving force of the virus spreading.On Facebook alone, the dozen are responsible for 73% of all anti-vaccine content, though the vaccines have been deemed safe and effective by the US government and its regulatory agencies. And 95% of the Covid misinformation reported on these platforms were not removed.Among the dozen are physicians that have embraced pseudoscience, a bodybuilder, a wellness blogger, a religious zealot, and, most notably Robert F Kennedy Jr, the nephew of John F Kennedy who has also linked vaccines to autism and 5G broadband cellular networks to the coronavirus pandemic.Kennedy was since removed from Instagram, which Facebook owns, but not from Facebook itself.“Facebook, Google and Twitter have put policies into place to prevent the spread of vaccine misinformation; yet to date, all have failed to satisfactorily enforce those policies,” wrote CCDH’s CEO, Imran Ahmed, in the report. “All have been particularly ineffective at removing harmful and dangerous misinformation about coronavirus vaccines.”Although platforms have since taken measures to remove many posts and even remove three of the 12 from one platform, the CCDH is calling on Facebook and Instagram, Twitter and YouTube to completely deplatform the disinformation dozen they believe are dangerous and instrumental in creating vaccine hesitancy at a crucial moment in the pandemic.“Updated policies and statements hold little value unless they are strongly and consistently enforced,” the report said. “With the vast majority of harmful content being spread by a select number of accounts, removing those few most dangerous individuals and groups can significantly reduce the amount of disinformation being spread across platforms.”
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@MisterChris
At the very least this would role-confirm him.
Not so- Pie pointed out that if he's scum he's probably Roleblocker. So it would confirm Roleblocker aspect but JAILKEEPER (which is far more often town than mere RB)
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@FLRW
-->@WyltedHenry Makow is a Canadian author, campaigner against homosexuality, public opponent of Zionism and Freemasonry, conspiracy theorist and the inventor of the board game Scruples.
that last fact is hysterical
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@MisterChris
My wincon is phrased differently.
state it, please
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Whiteflame
Supa
iLikePie5
Earth Junie Browning
Wylted
MisterChris
SCUM
VOTE COUNT
Oro- 1 /6- poly
Poly- 1/ 6- wylted
Pie- 1/ 6- grey
Greyparrot- 3/ 6- , oro, drlebronski
MrC- 1/6- Pie, WF,Wylted
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@Wylted
@oromagiOnly if you don't count that SJW who thinks computers are racist as one of my alts. Kinda pisses me off he was wrongfully banned because David is incompetent
David's word vs Wylted's word.... which do you think I'm going to trust?
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@Vader
Greyparrot's obsession over Pie seems a bit "over the top." I'm not really reading Pie as scum but I also am not hard town reading him. Seems like typical Pie town behavior. Not forcing any lynches and being extra pushy with questioning.
GreyParrot know's SupaDudz first rule of Pie as well as we do so why's he threatening to jail?
Also, we know Pie is not scum because he hasn't lol'd once. 3rd rule of Pie.
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@Wylted
-->@oromagiwhat is your justification
Post #56, bro what's yours?
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@Wylted
->@oromagiwhat is your justification? I have a theory on theme and want to test it with your justification. If I am right I can prove poly is scum.
POST#56
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@Wylted
-->@WyltedNevermind I can't. Pie erased the scum chatWTF?
from last game, got it.
I thought the game was over for a second there.
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@Wylted
->@PolyglotPlus, I'll say it again. I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early. If he is who he claims to be, he will be automatically confirmed in DP3, he could have played undercover until he got the official reveal from TUF. There was absolutely no need for him to role claim. So my vote remains on Oro.He is a modwit. Low on the mid part. He is an individual with an IQ of 115 who thinks of himself as smart because he found some smart people he agrees with and copies their reasoning. It's why earth knew he would choose to protect chris over himself and targeted him. Any intelligent person would have known we were going to know he was targeting chris and would instead target him, but he targeted chris anyway. Idiots always do the obvious move in situations that should be wifom.He claimed innocent child because he lacks imagination. Much better to have waited. Plus, no swapping out the stated mafia wincon for a town one is not something he would have gone. That is taking an overly risky shot in the dark of guessing the town wincon. Oro would not have done it. Nor would pie have corrected him, if pie was scum. He wouldn't have known to.Oro and pie are confirmed town. Look elsewhere.
Debate Rating: 1448 If we add up all your alts losses and avg its even lower.
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@Polyglot
I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early.
DP3 is a long time out in a 10 man game. If we haven't caught any scum by DP3 we're in bad shape- probably 4/2 MYLO and LYLO. As Wylted points out, if I get pressured in DP1 or DP2 (very likely in a 10 man game) and claim- it looks a lot scummier than if I just come out up front. Even if people are wondering about me, they'll probably be willing to wait for confirmation. In addition, it was Friday night and two claims were already on the table and I'm sort of contrarian in that I think TOWN is better oversharing and looking for standouts than undersharing (worked last game), so I just went with it hoping to promote a quick DP1.
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@Wylted
Poly's justification is absolute shit.
Poly's justification works for me- saying he's doing one thing when everybody can see he is doing something else kind of matches MILLER
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@Earth
I am Junie Browning
I note that Browning's nickname is "the lunatic"
Thematically significant, perhaps? His DDO username is also referenced.
Any other TUF usernames anybody knows?
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@Wylted
@whiteflamemy wincon is the same as it was last game: you win with the town.Just saw this. I guess good job oro though you risked fucking it upVTL whiteflame
I get your point- maybe WF doesn't have a wincon so he just went with last game's but then everybody's got a different wincon this game and his claim is about as likely as any other.
I don't think its particular incriminating or exonerating although the flash OMGUS from WF seemed a big uncharacteristic. Certainly, it wasn't the early gotcha I was hoping for.
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"Let me bang bro!""I do let you bang!"Oro- 1 /6- polyPoly- 1/ 6- wyltedPie- 1/ 6- greyGreyparrot- 3/ 6- iLikePie5, oro, drlebronskiNot Voting: Whiteflame, supa, earth. misterchris
TUF is highlighting my (very silly) character here.
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@Vader
@oromagiAnime pacing is worse. Watch One Piece and then you'll see slow
Well, there was a pirate ship attack within the first two minutes....
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@Vader
->@oromagiI think that scene with Oracle is amazing- the way the ordinary place is shimmering with potential, the way the Oracle simultaneously suggests that everything is foretold but also that Neo is the only one driving his destiny. I love the way the movie invents for us this dark dystopia but Neo's narrative begins in misery and drudgery and grey office and his world and potentials keep expanding exponentially until by the end he is superman.For a film made in 1999, it definitely looks better than it should be.I wasn't that interested in some of the side characters all that much, felt at times the pace could be slow. I appreciated great characters and the decent aesthetics, but to me the highest I can is a 8. It's a 7.8-8, but I wouldn't call it a 10
pace is slow, he says. GD anime tweakers and their 20 minute shows. Are we just heading for the tik-tok tweetification of all art? If you can't tell your story in less than 140 seconds, you're slow. Jesus Christ, how's an old man supposed to keep up if the Matrix is slow?
Go watch Kubrick's 2001 Space Odyssey, one of my all time favorites- go watch Herzog's Fata Morgana and then talk to me about slow. Slow is good. Slow makes you think a bit about the last thing before the next thing flashes in your face.
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@Vader
I've returned from watching the Matrix. Still think it was a 7/10 at best
You're insane. The Matrix is a masterpiece- really so well constructed and told. You are also too young to appreciate how it changed movie-making forever- the way Star Wars changed movie special effects and Pulp Fiction changed the narrative structure of film, The Matrix's faux camera totally changed the way movies looked after it- the way moments are stilled while the camera keeps panning in real time, the way action movies now always use wired flips and feats at changed up speeds, the grey green color pallette.... think of the way that movie added to our lexicon- redpill, there is no spoon, even the film's title instantly evokes the modern dystopian paradigm.
I think that scene with the Oracle is amazing- the way the ordinary place is shimmering with potential, the way the Oracle simultaneously suggests that everything is foretold but also that Neo is the only one driving his destiny. I love the way the movie invents for us this dark dystopia but Neo's narrative begins in misery and drudgery and grey office and his world and potentials keep expanding exponentially until by the end he is superman rocketing above the city.
The Matrix is 10/10.
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@Mesmer
I do not disagree that IQ is a valid metric of something, just not intelligence.
I think the results are repeatable enough to conclude that IQ measures some aspects of the human intellect but hardly encompasses what humans mean when we say intelligence. We were just recently discussing Bobby Fisher's high IQ although that sad bastard was an unemployable schizophrenic who pissed himself to death because he wasn't smart enough to go to a doctor. Was Bobby Fisher therefore intelligent? I know a fair number of brilliant manic depressives but the people I know with a real genius for living an admirable life would probably score about 100 on that test. I think IQ is over-rated and fairly slanted towards a 19th century European male model of success- lawyers and doctors and engineers. What of empathy? What of self-awareness? What of leadership and problem-solving? What of wit and humor- clearly signs of intelligence that no IQ test can capture. What of instinct- which is often the smartest part of us though we don't understand how or why? IQ might correlate with job performance because it favors those intellects which dot their i's and cross their t's, but tidy thinkers are seldom inspired and the truly creative seldom score high in IQ.
We can recognize that dogs are smarter than sheep but an IQ test can't tell us why. Or why some dogs are smarter than others. Clearly adults are smarter than children in most ways so intelligence changes and adapts as we grow and age. Obviously, there's more to intelligence than can be expressed in letters and numbers and in fact those abstractions came along only recently, long after humans had distinguished themselves as more intelligent than any other species.
Overall, I'm IQ skeptical and my experience tells me (hey, what about experience?) that applying numbers to people's capacity is often self-defeating or at least self-limiting. Tell people that a 4 minute mile is the limit of human capability and for some reason everybody believes it until one day that record is broken and suddenly thousands more find that ability within themselves.
How would you define intelligence?
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So....if the rest of us DONT have a proper justification, then perhaps the fact that GP has one could be more scummy.
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@drlebronski
Thanks, Dr.
So, if my wincon had said that I might have breadcrumbed: yaT
to see if other recognized it
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@ILikePie5
why does it matter? I have my reasons to hear his justification
So you have your reasons but my reason can get stuffed?
Not a very town outlook.
I'll ask a second time: Do you have a good justification?
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@ILikePie5
Help me pressure GP for his justification
I can't pressure GP because he has me blocked
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@ILikePie5
I've already said my justification is non-existent. Do you have a good justification?
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@ILikePie5
You are aligned with those that win with the town.
Thanks for that.
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So it is totally plausible that TUF used different wincons for different people but IF everybody else's say "You are a town member" and only whiteflame's says "You win with the town" then I think Whiteflame is obv scum
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@whiteflame
I gave it to you already. I'll repeat: you win with the town. That's my phrasing.
Thanks, I missed it. POST#70
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Somebody tag Greyparrot and ask him what is wincon says, please.
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@Wylted
@ILikePie5
@MisterChris
@Polyglot
What does your wincon say, please?
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@Earth
@Vader
@drlebronski
What does your wincon say, please?
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@whiteflame
-->@oromagiDude, just because you have a different wincon phrasing than I do doesn't mean you've stumbled upon scum. My phrasing is what it is.
what is your wincon phrasing? You have neglected to say.
I'll also note that I asked you why you voted for drlebronski. You never answered my question, and instead, chose to shift your vote to me before I could even respond to you. Yes, that's going to elicit a VTL. Shocking, I know.
The answer to that was obvious to everybody whose wincon was "You are a town member"
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-->@oromagiDude, just because you have a different wincon phrasing than I do doesn't mean you've stumbled upon scum. My phrasing is what it is.
what is your wincon phrasing? You have neglected to say.
I'll also note that I asked you why you voted for drlebronski. You never answered my question, and instead, chose to shift your vote to me before I could even respond to you. Yes, that's going to elicit a VTL. Shocking, I know.
The answer to that was obvious to everybody whose wincon was "You are a town member"
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Supa
iLikePie5
Wylted
AWoL
Earth
MisterChris
Whiteflame
SCUM
VOTE COUNT
Poly (1/6)- Wylted,
drBro(1/6)- oro
Pie (1/6)- GP
Oro (1/6)- Pie, WFlame
WFlame (1/6)- oro
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Okay, seems that whiteflame doesn't know the wincon.
If everybody else's wincon is "You are a town member" then I think we should lynch whiteflame
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@whiteflame
Just take a guess... you already know what the initials are
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I would think that if WhiteFlame had a town wincon he'd answer pretty quickly.
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@whiteflame
Don't know your wincon? That is unfortunate.
UNOVTE
VTL WhiteFlame
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@whiteflame
I don't know when everybody got so obtuse about wincons. Last game, the wincon was You Win with the Town and the fact that Wylted didn't know what it meant turned out to be evidence of his guilt, although I was doubtful DP2.
Please state your wincon.
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