oromagi

This definition does not describe 21st century liberals, just like the word, "conservative" doesn't mean conserving the status quo.  If being conservative meant keeping the status quo, then they wouldn't want to lower taxes or overturn Roe V Wade, since both of these ideas go against the status quo. 

Being conservative means being pro personal responsibility first and economic liberty second.  Being a liberal means wanting to reduce suffering and expand life. 

This is why they want to ban radical right wing speech, which they see as causing emotional suffering and a threat to the expansion of life because of their fear of extreme speech radicalizing into extreme actions.

Then, why do people want to ban Klansmen from expressing their opinions?  Should the KKK be banned? | Debate.org states that 78% of the people here want to ban the KKK, so there are people that want to ban the KKK.  If they don't want to ban the KKK because they are "offensive to (minorities) and that hurts their feelings", then why do these people want the Klan banned?

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Who did you watch during the last NP?

So, Pie could have either been the target of the NK, or used his role to protect the target and lost the coin flip. Impossible to say which without more info.

At this point, I think it’s worth having everyone claim. I’ll start:  I’m Claudette Colvin. I’m Vanilla. Similar to Bringerofrain, it says I can affect the game with my voice and vote. No justification.

Vote Count

Bringerofrain (oromagi) -- 1/5 votes

Crocodile (Pie) -- 1/5 votes 

SupaDudz (Speed) -- 1/5 votes 

MisterChris (Bringer) -- 1/5 votes 

Not voting: Supa, Chris, Crocodile, whiteflame

Vote Count

Bringerofrain (oromagi, whiteflame, Pie,MIsterChris) -- 4/4 votes 

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Vote Castro for Governor 2022.

The last time someone with the name of Castro took power somewhere, it created a refugee crisis.  I wouldn't want to vote for someone named Castro.

Me: What do you think is hate speech?

SJW Liberals: Anything offensive to somebody and that hurts their feelings. 

• The fact that you begin with a prejorative (SJW) rather disqualifies you from reliably characterizing the liberal response, don't you think?
  
• Hate speech bans are prohibited in the US
  

• I am the WATCHER
  
• I watched speed, cuz that's what Casey Jones would do
  
• bringerofrain visited speed
  
• only bringerofrain visited speed
  

What? They're PGO...?

I guess you can call me binger. I do eat too much

Except fauxlaw hasn't argued that race is a "social construct."

But then again, I still do [not] know what you mean when you state that race is a "social construct." Is it synonymous with "imaginary"?

Contrary to popular belief that the division of the human species based on physical variations is natural, there exists no clear, reliable distinctions that bind people to such groupings.  According to the American Anthropological Association, "Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes." While there is a biological basis for differences in human phenotypes, most notably in skin color, the genetic variability of humans is found not amongst, but rather within racial groups – meaning the perceived level of dissimilarity amongst the species has virtually no biological basis. Genetic diversity has characterized human survival, rendering the idea of a "pure" ancestry as obsolete.  Under this interpretation, race is conceptualized through a lens of artificiality, rather than through the skeleton of a scientific discovery. As a result, scholars have begun to broaden discourses of race by defining it as a social construct and exploring the historical contexts that led to its inception and persistence in contemporary society.

Most historians, anthropologists, and sociologists describe human races as a social construct, preferring instead the term population or ancestry, which can be given a clear operational definition. Even those who reject the formal concept of race, however, still use the word race in day-to-day speech. This may either be a matter of semantics, or an effect of an underlying cultural significance of race in racist societies.

That beneath the differentiations of skin, hair, feature shapes and whatnot, our DNA is virtually identical.

Perhaps, he was using the individual's actions as an exemplar which helps delineate a trend.

In logic and reasoning, a faulty generalization, similar to a proof by example in mathematics, is a conclusion made about all or many instances of a phenomenon, that has been reached on the basis of one or a few instances of that phenomenon.  It is an example of jumping to conclusions. For example, one may generalize about all people or all members of a group, based on what they know about just one or a few people:

• If one meets an angry person from a given country X, they may suspect that most people in country X are often angry.
  
• If one sees only white swans, they may suspect that all swans are white.
  

Faulty generalizations may lead to further incorrect conclusions. One may, for example, conclude that citizens of country X are genetically inferior, or that poverty is the fault of the poor.

Expressed in more precise philosophical language, a fallacy of defective induction is a conclusion that has been made on the basis of weak premises, or one which is not justified by sufficient or unbiased evidence. Unlike fallacies of relevance, in fallacies of defective induction, the premises are related to the conclusions, yet only weakly buttress the conclusions, hence a faulty generalization is produced. The essence of this inductive fallacy lies on the overestimation of an argument based on insufficiently-large samples under an implied margin or error.

They have distinguished "white" people  into seven separate categories

• "NY schools" (which includes state and city and private and public)
  
• or
  
• "The woke generation" which fauxlaw does not define and the term has no well defined common meaning.  If we assume that woke is being used in the sense of "a perceived awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice"then "the woke generation" is basically anybody who thinks they have a handle on the issues of social justice- which likely includes all debater on this site.
  

Why can't we look at one another, celebrate our differences rather than discriminate by them. Is that so hard?

I don't care if it is one principal or the entire school system, it is arguing for even greater racial segregation than we experience now.

Okay, can anyone tell me if oromagi quotes random things every game

I'm back.

You don't have to claim black.

Itwas inevitable that she should accept any inconsistency and crueltyfrom her deity as all good worshipers do from theirs. All godswho receive homage are cruel. All gods dispense suffering withoutreason. Otherwise they would not be worshiped. Through indiscriminatesuffering men know fear and fear is the most divine emotion. Itis the stones for altars and the beginning of wisdom. Half gods are worshiped in wine and flowers. Real gods require blood.

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You missed my point, race is a social construct.

What do you mean when you state that "race is a social construct"?

The woke generation is demonstrating that no generation is immune to ignorance and bigotry.

“I am an invisible man. No, I am not a spook like those who haunted Edgar Allan Poe; nor am I one of your Hollywood-movie ectoplasms. I am a man of substance, of flesh and bone, fiber and liquids -- and I might even be said to possess a mind. I am invisible, understand, simply because people refuse to see me. Like the bodiless heads you see sometimes in circus sideshows, it is as though I have been surrounded by mirrors of hard, distorting glass. When they approach me they see only my surroundings, themselves, or figments of their imagination -- indeed, everything and anything except me.”

I'm Charles Hamilton Houston, I'm a lawyer and can stop someone from being lynched in the following day phase, no justification

WAKANDA FOREVER

Watching right wing media fawn over Rush Limbaugh yesterday really got me thinking about something...

In one interview Dan Quayle was talking about Rush's ability to speak on conservatism and highlight its virtues, which he summarized about 3 or 4 times as "less taxes, less regulations". In another interview (I did not get the speaker's name) she described conservatism as "not being for handouts, but rather an opportunity to build your own leg up in life".

Regarding the first interview, what I realize is that "less" anything is a relative term. In order for you to be "for" less of something then someone else must first propose an amount of that thing. In other words this cannot be a value, it's merely opposition to someone else's values.

But I found the second interview more bothersome, for if this is how conservatism is defined then it is an entire ideology built on opposing a strawman. To define yourself as being against handouts is to assert by definition that anyone who does not share your ideology is for handouts. Setting aside that this completely misrepresents what liberalism is all about, this is more importantly and once again; not a value but merely opposition to someone else's values.

So I ask, if you are a conservative and you largely agree with what these interviewees had to say... what is your ideology "for"?

-> @XLAV

Pretty sure you’ve played mafia before but can you tell us where, how often, and familiarity with roles?

Any time you have discourse between conservatives and liberals or anyone from an extremely right camp and somebody from an extremely left camp, the term: Political Correctness is thrown in there.

But why? I've typically seen it used by conservatives who don't like... trans, gay, or racial equality, throw it at people who say things like: "Gender and Sex are different things", or even, "Gay people should be allowed to adopt same as straight people", etc, etc... but why? Do they assume that left-leaning people just... don't actually believe those things? What do these people think to motivates left-leaning people to lie to people on the internet over things like this?

Anyway, that is a little bit off-topic, who actually uses political correctness?

Well.... typically conservative and alt-right people.... there called EUPHAMISMS. They've been a term forever... because people have used them... for a long time. Old conservative presidents used the euphemism of "job security" to be racist, or "family values" to be homophobic, and so and so forth. Let's talk about the alt-right though, they use euphemisms such as: "The Jewish question", to be super anti-semantic, "The great replacement" to be xenophobic, etc, etc, my point? Traditionally speaking, it has always been the right to hide things behind a political facade, not the left, the problem with the left is that its typically TOO honest for people to like it. You know.. like calling for Medicare for all and being called socialist? That type of thing.   So... why? 

-> @bmdrocks21 @oromagi

I am curious of something. Out of these words which is the least rude and embraced by the group:

-> @oromagi

Actually 'redneck' was a term invented by the working class miners who wore red bandanas around their necks to help wipe away sweat and dirt.

The more politically correct term 'hillbilly' was ironically the opposite, it was the more insulting term that others gave them but over time it flipped around somewhat, for reasons that nobody at all knows (not even them).

I am not making a thesis, If I wanted a PhD on right-wing US subcultures, I wouldn't be posting that material on this website.

no other human life in the Universe other than that on Earth.

Have you ever tried to speak against prejudice in a redneck neighborhood? #cancelculture

• If I point out that REDNECK is a term of anti-white derision then this post probably qualifies.
  
• REDNECK, by definition, is rural and most NEIGHBORHOODs are by definition, not rural.  The term is probably oxymoronic and certainly rural areas are known for not creating a lot of public venues for outsider opinion or political protest.  Prejudices are very rarely openly discussed in public venue, precisely to avoid such protest.  Most prejudice under discussion in public is couched in layers of textualism meant to provide layers of deniability.  Most blatant prejudicial speech is done in private.  Most blatant prejudicial acts are done in the dark- fled from and denied.
  

pretending there's no cancel culture on the right wing

• I guess this is probably closer to your thesis.  I'm gay so I've been getting cancelled by the right wing from a very early age- criminalized, ghettoized, vandalized, terrorized, fired, and denied.
  
• In fact, CANCEL CULTURE (although usage of that term is fairly fuzzy) is inherently anti-liberal although not necessarily anti-left-wing.  Ultimately, all ostracism is about maintaining the purity of a core culture and ideology and since such purity is traditionally a much larger concern on the right than the left I think it is safe to credit the right wing with the majority of all cancel culture- even if the right wing uses different identifiers like "family values" or "white power."  Just look at the exponentially expanding circle of impure right-wingers now cancelled as "RINO." 
  

• from The NEW YORKER:
  

• San Francisco’s Board of Education voted, 6–1, to change the names of forty-four schools, including schools named after Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. A committee formed by the board in 2018, in the wake of the white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, had determined that any figures who “engaged in the subjugation and enslavement of human beings; or who oppressed women, inhibiting societal progress; or whose actions led to genocide; or who otherwise significantly diminished the opportunities of those amongst us to the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” should no longer have schools named after them and had recommended which names should be changed. Washington’s name was struck because he held slaves, Lincoln’s because of his policies toward Native Americans. Senator Dianne Feinstein’s name will be removed from a school, owing to the decision, when she was San Francisco’s mayor, in the nineteen-eighties, to replace a Confederate flag that was part of a Civic Center display and had been taken down by a protester. (A spokesperson for Feinstein said that the city’s parks department replaced the flag “on its own accord.” She later had it replaced with a Union flag.) Some of the committee’s recommendations have received more criticism than others: Paul Revere Elementary School will be renamed because of his role in the Penobscot Expedition of 1779, an assault on a British fort that the committee claimed, incorrectly, was intended to colonize the Penobscot people.
  

• from FOX NEWS:
  

• Actor Gina Carano of Lucasfilm's 'The Mandalorian' at the Disney+ Global Press Day on October 19, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. Lucasfilm announced Wednesday she is 'not currently employed' by the company following backlash she received for controversial tweets. (Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images for Disney)
  
• "Really sad about @ginacarano not being in @themandalorian anymore, I really liked Cara Dune, she was so bada--, but I’m utterly disappointed to find out she’s an anti-masker, alt-righter, q-anoner, transphobic Trump supporter??! Girl... WTF," one person tweeted.
  
• "Also Gina Carano was fortunate to not be fired for a LOT of the other things she said previously. I would be fired from my job if I said some of those things! Being famous doesn't make you untouchable, or at least it shouldn't," another Twitter user reacted.
  
• "People defending #GinaCarano need to have a word with themselves. Stop defending people being racist. Racism is racism. It's rather telling that she deleted the tweets," another person said.
  
• One person labeled Carano as a "white supremacist" and argued Disney+ and Lucasfilm can fire whomever they want because they are private companies. "If they do not want a white supremacist/anti-semitic person working 4 them, they can take appropriate measures 2 remove that person from their payroll. #GinaCarano must learn words & actions have consequences. If not, oh well," the person said.
  
• Lucasfilm confirmed Wednesday Carano is 'not currently employed' by the company amid backlash she received on social media.   The #CancelDisneyPlus hashtag picked up steam Wednesday night into Thursday morning.  Some social media users shared proof they had begun canceling their Disney+ subscriptions. "I am tired of mob rule and cancel culture," one person tweeted.  Others called for Disney+ to be canceled by arguing that Carano's tweets weren't insensitive.  Twitter was ablaze with criticism against Gina Carano this week, with the hashtag #FireGinaCarano trending before Disney+ came under fire once it was revealed she's no longer employed by Lucasfilm.
  
• According to Variety, the backlash against Carano, 38, began when she shared a message on the social media platform in which she compared today's political divide to the events in Nazi Germany.
  
• "Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views," read the post, which was originally composed by another account.
  
• A second post contained a photo of a person wearing cloth masks to cover their face and head with the caption: "Meanwhile in California." The outlet reports that both posts were removed from her Instagram by Wednesday afternoon.  Others remained, however, including one that reportedly read, "Expecting everyone you encounter to agree with every belief or view you hold is f--king wild," as well as another that said, "Jeff Epstein didn’t kill himself."
  
• Carano played Cara Dune in seven episodes of "The Mandalorian" across its first two seasons in 2019 and 2020. She was rumored to be the center of the upcoming "Mandalorian" spin-off "Rangers of the New Republic" at Disney+, but Disney has not announced casting for the show.
  

• State Republican Parties censuring Republican politicians for condemning political violence by Republicans:
  
• Liz Cheney
  
• Ben Sasse
  
• Jeff Flake
  
• CIndy McCain
  

Did I mention Trump? 

Did I mention a king?

• holding debates open until at least three  verdicts
  
• which might result in a big pile of open debates
  
• earning debate privileges with votes
  
• which might reduce debate activity to nil
  

Nah, I love it when liberals get triggered when they play by y’all’s rules

Democrats passed Articles knowing very well that a trial physically cannot happen in 7 days lol