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is that right?
TOWN
Oromagi Yugoslavia MILLER
Elminster USSR HATED
Supa France
Lunatic Mexico
Speed America
Whiteflame Greece
Pie
Greyparrot China VANILLA
Intelligence_06
Reece101
SCUM
SirAnonymous Greece [CC'd]
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@SirAnonymous
--> @ILikePie5It's my favorite part of history. I've read dozens of books on it.
I've read Churchill and some others. I am particularly fond of Keegan's The Second World War.
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@Speedrace
Added 02.02.21 12:20PM--> @LunaticAmerica
not a country
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@Vader
If the theme is what the obvious theme is, then I have no problem with mass char claims this game specifically
USSR was ALLIED, YUGO was AXIS (although famously rebellious about it)
An AXIS v ALLIES split seems unlikely & have no cause to doubt elm's fast claim.
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SOP MILLER
YUGOSLAVIA because YUGOSLAVIA joined the AXIS against its will
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so drafterman's not dead and hasn't managed to VIG anybody
It was a good character claim tho
VTL drafterman
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@ILikePie5
My motivator is spent. 1X
I was trying to keep that secret to make me a better target tonight but now you've gone and built your castles there
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I agree that Warren's justification sucks- it's like saying Al Capone survived the St. Valentine's Day massacre, Of course he survived, he was the perpetrator. The Red Wedding was Frey's doing.
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people should weigh in on that weak hider thing- my experience is that weak hider is the default like Mafiawiki says, speed says no & speed is usually right about such declarations
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@warren42
For what it's worth I've seen one episode of Game of Thrones
I read the first couple of books but was not too impressed. I watched the first season and thought it better than the books but gave up on it. I got caught up before the last season and learned to love the whole thing, A lot of people hate that last season but I think it some of the most spectacular fantasy film making of all time. Dragons wiping out whole armies, masses of undead throwing themselves from cliffs like bombs, giants smashing castles while bristlingwith arrows- great stuff.
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@warren42
Oh wait I'm an idiot no whiteflame isn't using a fake claim, else there'd be no reason for mafia to have cop-manipulating abilities
good point
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@drafterman
Walder Frey is a major baddie who does have a point but to my mind Warren gains no cred by this claim because the cast of GoT bad guys who have a point is practically limitless and he waited until the theme was clear.
elminster Wicked Witch of the West ODD WATCHER+EVEN TRACKER
TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence MOTIVATOR
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
ilikepie5 Magneto (copped)
drafterman Roy Batty VIG + BP
supadudz Neagen MILLER
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
warren42 Walder Frey
coal (film)
SCUM
misterchris Batman EVIL JOAT
ROLEBLOCKER
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Honestly, if I was scum I would not have touched WF because it is too easy to be spotted. That said, I have not ruled out the possibility that WF is scum because if SCUM used the double NK then WF would be outed. Better to kill one, confirm me and gain TOWN cred. I call that an unlikely scenario but not ruled out.
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@whiteflame
As for why I’m alive, I’m honestly surprised as well. Can’t explain not being targeted.
My BOMB gambit must have worked
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elminster Wicked Witch of the West ODD WATCHER+EVEN TRACKER
TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence MOTIVATOR
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
ilikepie5 Magneto (copped)
drafterman Roy Batty VIG + BP
supadudz Neagen MILLER
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
warren42 (GoT minor char)
coal (film)
SCUM
misterchris Batman EVIL JOAT
ROLEBLOCKER
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@Danielle
Obamacare was and remains the latest Republican health care plan-written by Bob Dole as counter to Hillary's healthcare proposal in '94. Obama chose the Republican plan because he figured Republicans would never savage their own principles to score a few short term political points. Boy, he did he read that room wrong.
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@Speedrace
--> @oromagiWhat makes you confident GP is not a weak hider?Because...he didn't claim that????????????Besides that would essentially make two cops which is game breaking
I just shared the clip where it say HIDER usually means weak hider. I've seen hiders in games and been hider twice but I've never seen a non-weak hider
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Vote Count:MisterChris- 5/6- iLikePie5, speedrace, whiteflame, supadudz, draftermanDrafter- 1/6- GreyparrotiLikePie5- 1 /6- oromagiSupadudz- 1/6- elminster
Not Voting: Warren42, misterchris, coal
We should suspect two or three scum in Chris' pile
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@drafterman
--> @oromagiWhy are you spreading so much misinformation this game?
that's pie's job
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@drafterman
Mafiawiki:
Because the game hinges so much on players' Night choices and the number of possibilities to account for are so high, balancing a Role Madness game can only be rough at best. When reviewing a power-heavy game like this, the two things that must be checked for are broken combinations (i.e. if everyone claimed, could a group of players use their Night action to dominate the game? If not, could they do it after a certain player dies?) and whether any one faction can become grossly more powerful than the other(s).
The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).
The subversion of including a single Vanilla Townie in a Role Madness game has been done many times over, to the point where claiming to be a Vanilla Townie has been considered self-confirming (if not an outright Town-tell).
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@ILikePie5
Almost all of Lunatic’s games are role madness using Bullish’s definition lol. I never said I don’t think it’s rolemadness.
role madness mostly precludes considerations of balance and odds, no?
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@Speedrace
--> @draftermanYou do it as scum, tooHe doesn't
I do but the last two times I was scum, secret codes were prohibited creating the appearance. The last two times I was TP I created fake claims but I couldn't use them so I just let them sit unnoticed.
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@ILikePie5
The odds of that are sooooo low.
keep in mind that mafiawiki say my ROLE is not seen outside of ROLE MADNESS. odds are off the table. The fact that you still don't think its role madness is one of my top scum tell on you.
MILLER and VANILLA are more sus claims than MIMIC as far as I'm concerned.
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@Speedrace
-> @oromagiI do think Whiteflame and GP should make some effort not to confirm the same individual.GP isn't a weak hider so he can't confirm anyone
A Weak Hider is the original form of the Hider. This modified role is the most common version of this role (to the extent that many people will just say "Hider" to mean the role that has been standardised as "Weak Hider". A Weak role will die upon targeting a scum player, in addition to the other aspects of their role.
What makes you confident GP is not a weak hider?
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If I was MIMIC I'd be grabbing the bulletproof VIG that autodies DP3
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TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence MOTIVATOR
drafterman Roy Batty VIG + BP
supadudz Neagen MILLER
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
misterchris Grinch MIMIC
ilikepie5 Magneto
elminster Wicked Witch of the West
warren42 (GoT minor char)
coal (film)
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
SCUM
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I think its dumb to lynch Chris. His role fits nicely in with villains or bad guys who get better characters. His role has a lot of testability. His gameplay has been town.
Warren came out this morning and said his character is a minor role from GoT- which is sus and coal is obv standout as the only one who hasn't committed any info
to town.
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@Elminster
50=COP
echo "im32" >> /var/adm/toogoodwonbad
32 is hexidecimal for 50- this was a techie themed game.
I became COP after 2 town and 1 scum died.
BREADCOUNTRYVANMANIA
ROLL+TOWN+VANILLA+MADNESS
I see you are funky but = ICUR FUNKY
with less you, god bless you, = minus one U = anagrams to NICK FURY
I see you are funky but
what would Jesus do? = REINCARNATOR
and yes i fear
tho the eels be red = eel be red anagrams to BLEEDER
serious lemurs = Gen AS Johnson's last words were "yes, and I fear seriously"
might turn our kits green = Johnson died for lack of tourniquet, tho Johnson had one in his pocket and forgot
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@Elminster
I actually think the fact he posted the claim at the start of the game scummy af.
I do this every game.
Its a way to see if there is a motivator in the game and if there isn't he can point back to it and say what he just did.
It's a way to lock in the claim early but sufficiently concealed that nobody knows the claim. MOTIVATORs are exceedingly rare and easily confirmed so scum would be nuts to lock in early on.
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@ILikePie5
I definitely sus it now if you’re telling the truth about being the motivator cause I don’t see a world where there is a motivator that can give 2 NKs and a Vig.
like I say, I am guessing an OP game. You don't think its an OP game so you dont have an OP role or you are scum. We already have a MILLER and VANILLA which doesn't leave a lot of room for less powerful roles on TOWN side if the game is OP.
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I do think Whiteflame and GP should make some effort not to confirm the same individual.
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TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence MOTIVATOR
drafterman Roy Batty VIG + BP
supadudz Neagen MILLER
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
misterchris Grinch
ilikepie5 Magneto
elminster Wicked Witch of the West
warren42 (GoT)
coal (film)
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
SCUM
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sorry, that should say speed does look increasingly less likely
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@ILikePie5
Lunatic specifically warned me to be wary of motivating the NK in the PM.
Behaviorally, you are my top scum read. Because you sus'd draft's OP claim you are either not OP yourself or scum. Apply Sup's law, you are scum.
Going by theme interpretation: my reads are:
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oromagi Johnny Lawrence MOTIVATOR
supadudz Neagen MILLER
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
ilikepie5 Magneto
warren42 (GoT)
misterchris Grinch
drafterman Roy Batty VIG + BP
coal (film)
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
elminster Wicked Witch of the West
SCUM
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and Supa does look increasingly less likely from this perspective.
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My role is MOTIVATOR. My PM is long, justifying Johnny's anger at LaRusso because Daniel stole his girlfriend and Mr Miyagi almost killed me but that didn't stop me from rebuilding Cobra Kai and it is in this role as an instructor that my motivation of others is justified.
I locked in this claim on my first post of the game with a fake YouTube link, which when reversed takes us to a YouTube video of a very entertaining song called "Mr Motivator"
So, that's me claiming MOTIVATOR in POST #47
I'm claiming now because:
- don't want to get lynched in the night
- I can be confirmed by a successfully motivated role so I don't want investigators to waste checks on me
- if my viability as a target is improved, then advantage TOWN
- MafiaWiki advises that "Generally speaking, Motivators are Town-aligned, but not seen outside role madness games." Combined with drafters' claim which I generally believe, I think role madness is indicated although that makes VANILLA claim even less townie.
- I tend to believe WF and draft and consider these my top candidates at present. There may be a lot of eyes on these guys so better to announce ahead of time.
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for warren's sake:
TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence
supadudz Neagen MILLER
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
ilikepie5 Magneto
warren42 (GoT)
misterchris How the Grinch stole Chrismister
drafterman Roy Batty VIG+BP
coal (film)
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
elminster Wicked Witch of the West
SCUM
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Oromagi- 2 /6- Whiteflame, drafterman
MisterChris- 2/6- iLikePie5, speedrace
Drafter- 1/6- Greyparrot
iLikePie5- 1 /6- oromagi
Not Voting: Warren42, supadudz, misterchris, coal, elminster
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@ILikePie5
game of thrones- why wouldn't you know that?
POST #577
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I got to say I'm seeing a lot of mileage in this theme split. Lots of characters who start out as villains but get better as the narrative progresses.
But speed and elm don't really fit this pattern. If warren is not Tyrion or Jaime I think I'd want to know that now. I wonder whether coal or draft think they fit that pattern
TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence
supadudz Neagen MILLER
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
ilikepie5 Magneto
warren42 (GoT)
misterchris How the Grinch stole Chrismister
drafterman (film)
coal (film)
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
elminster Wicked Witch of the West
SCUM
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@coal
-> @oromagiMy character comes from a series that I do not have extensive familiarity with, because I am not a fan and have not seen the movie(s) in which this character is the primary antagonist. Though I have seen some movies within the universe, my preference has always been for a different universe.
And yet we know how likely it is that you have googled your subject to the minimal extent necessary to answer my question, which you have elected to ignore.
Would you say your character is a figurative black hat, white hat, or shades of grey?
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There’s no such thing as an absolute failure with no achievements. Surviving childbirth is not easy
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@coal
Can you advise whether your character is
- a villain who improves over narrative
- bad from start to finish
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- good?
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@drafterman
Can you advise whether your character is
- a villain who improves over narrative
- bad from start to finish
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- good?
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I got to say I'm seeing a lot of mileage in this theme split. Lots of characters who start out as villains but get better as the narrative progresses.
But speed and elm don't really fit this pattern. If warren is not Tyrion or Jaime I think I'd want to know that now. I wonder whether coal or draft think they fit that pattern
TOWN
oromagi Johnny Lawrence
supadudz Neagen MILLER
greyparrot Smeagol HIDER
whiteflame Lt. Thaddeus Harris BOMB
ilikepie5 Magneto
warren42 (GoT)
misterchris How the Grinch stole Chrismister
drafterman (film)
coal (film)
speedrace Shenzi & Banzai & Ed VANILLA & VANILLA & VANILLA
elminster Wicked Witch of the West
SCUM
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