oromagi

Also, POST#540- "TUF specifically mentions both the tv show and the movie."

Wth are you even talking about? How is this even related?

Does your PM mention things from both Karate Kid and Cobra Kai or just one of them?

Which Johnny are you?

--> @oromagi

Another false accusation.  The first thing I typed in this game was that I am both Karate Kid/Cobra Kai- which you have just agreed makes me both, which you have failed to note I've been saying all along.

If you’re Johnny Lawrence you physically can’t be. He’s an antagonist in one and protagonist in the other. Which one is in your PM?

. I thought you were tryin to play both sides of the game by claiming a tv show and a movie.

What if god directly contacted you and proved they were god but told you that the only way you can stay in touch and experience your privileges (which may include getting into the heaven) is if you never talked about the god to others and kept it a secret, perhaps even masquerading as an atheist or at least agnostic?

Would you lie to everyone you knew?

Correct he is the antagonist in Karate Kid but not in Cobra Kai (he’s the protagonist in that one). Oro has yet to clarify which Johnny is featured in his PM.

I don't remember How The Grinch Stole Christmas.  

I don't think the Grinch is a protagonist. 

I also am not sure I buy that claim.  

I mistyped earlier.

Added 01.30.21 09:27PM

but that's not inverted.  Inverse reality would be scum=protagonists, no?

So you’re scum right? Or did you change your theory already?

--> @oromagi

yeah a lot of these characters are flexible and changing. I feel like the best way to summarize the theme split is:

"Bad" people who actually had a point are town, & "good" people who actually had some screwed morals are scum.
 

• The hyenas are never mentioned as anti-heros.
  
• The wicked witch in not an anti-hero in Baum/Movie but the archetypal anti-hero in Wicked book & musical
  

--> @Lunatic @oromagi

I asked you first and I have the moral high ground- removing evidence that corresponds to town is a scum move for sho.

My first post of the game was POST#47

Having both a movie and a tv show is scummy. I already explained that it was scummy to have both their when a person claimed a tv show and a movie prior. I’m willing to lynch you because of my theory and have said as much. No other character has a prominent TV show and a movie.

The character claim was locked in here. Coal has figured out and has already said so.

TUF specifically mentions both the tv show and the movie. What advantage did you hope the gain by editing that corroboration out?

So you are Johnny Lawrence. Interesting to see that he was the central antagonist in Karate Kid but an anti-heroic PROTAGONIST in Cobra Kai. So which is it?

• VTL'ing me without reading any of my posts,
  
• modifying my claims to make me appear less town
  
• Dodging my simple, direct question like Pee Wee Reese
  

--> @oromagi

Don't change the subject.  You came up with a theory of tv show vs film,  then edited out my made-early-and-oft-repeated film claim....apparently to increase suspicion on me.

I would like to know your thought process when you modified my claim in order to fit your theory.

I’ll tell you my thought process when you claim your character and tell me whether the stuff in your justification mentions stuff from Karate Kid or Cobra Kai. Cause it seems to me you were trying to play both sides after Warren claimed a TV show and Drafter claimed movie

My show is Karate Kid/Cobra Kai

HaPpy hoLidaYs, david BoWie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1wsqmpoCnY

VTL Supadudz

Cobra Kai or Karate Kid would make sense as a Mafia Ninja role

Low key the theme may just be Characters in Movies vs Characters in TV Shows with each character basically being an asshole and their actions justified to fit the inverse reality stuff.

Supa - Negan - Miller - TV Show (The Walking Dead)***

Oro - ____ - ____ - TV Show (Cobra Kai)

Warren - ____ - ____ - TV Show (Game of Thrones)

Pie - Magneto - ____ - Movie (X-Men)

WF - Lt. Harris - Cop - Movie (Police Academy)

Drafter - ____ - ____ - Movie (???)

GP - Omegol - Hider - Movie (Lord of the Rings)

Speed - Hyenas - Vanilla - Movie (Lion King)

Elm - Wicked Witch - ____ - Movie (Wizard of Oz)

Chris - ____ - ____ - Movie (Holidays)

Polar - ____ - ____ - Movie (???)

***There’s plans to make a Walking Dead movie

I’m willing to lynch anyone in between Chris, Polar, Oro, and Warren. Supa to a lower extent.

-> @oromagi

Are you going to continue to pursue the futile speed lynch, or are you willing to do something productive like pressure Chris? 

I don't know WF's MO but the claim of town harm seems at least as legitimately possible as a SCUM coverup.  I can think of a hundred likely scenarios- he says "Silence of the Lambs"  and we go "oh, Hannibal Lecter....oh, WF's a doctor....oh, look he's dead"  he says "Bad Lieutenent" we go "oh, he's a cop...oh, look he's dead" etc.

I know people are saying no more claims but I wouldn't mind locking in more universes generally if it doesn't give the role away because that might take away some options from scum in upcoming rounds.

I’m probably dead tonight anyway, though for the record, some universes actually include a role in the title. Oro gave a good example of that, and Elm seems to just be writing that off as a joke and claiming that my defensiveness means there’s only one main antagonist in my world. Great that so many of the rest of you got universes that don’t out your role. I wasn’t so lucky.

I already said that my universe WILL OUT MY CHARACTER AND ROLE. What part of that was unclear?

--> @coal

1. Who are you on DDO?

I don't have a DDO account anymore. I got on DDO in 2019 (Far after the site apocalypse) and got referred to here fairly quickly. I've been here ever since. 

Player - [Character] / [Role] (link to post)

1. oromagi
   
2. elminster
   
3. mistercrhis
   
4. supadudz - Neagan / Miller (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241170) 
   
5. greyparrot - Smeagol / Hider (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241213) 
   
6. drafterman - ("I'm from a movie. If I say the movie it'll be obvious who I am. But I am a "villain") / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241242)
   
7. coal
   
8. speedrace
   
9. whiteflame - ("My character is from Game of Thrones") / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592-inverse-reality-day-phase-1?page=2) 
   
10. warren42
    
11. ilikepie5 - Magneto / ? (https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5592/post-links/241345) 
    

Let me know if I've missed anything.  I don't think I did, but I'm kind of tired and I've been working all day. 

Before I do anything, I have a couple of questions:  

@elminster - Who are you on DDO?  Have I played live mafia with you?  Who are you? 

@all - wasn't pie the one who VTL'd the confirmed townie as town in a life mafia game recently?  I feel like that was him.  

I also have a couple of observations:

We are not lynching an un-counterclaimed miller DP1; now, tomorrow or ever.  

Grayparrot is likely town. 

Supa is town. 

I would like everyone's thoughts on elminster.  I am particurlarly interested in what whiteflame, drafter, speed and warren think of elminster. 

Well, it sounds like we've made some headway on figuring out the theme and the potential split. While I won't reveal what it is, I am at least familiar with the show my character is from, even if I'm not familiar with the character. Seems to fit into the theme that's been discussed.

I can't say I'm aware of that, but I'll take you at your word. Not at all familiar with the theme.

--> @drafterman

I think Town are antagonists that are actually good, or at least had a point.

Therefore scum would be protagonists that were actually bad or wrong.

Nope, I don't fit this

It's literally just bad v good lol

--> @oromagi

I didn't get any perv vibes, or maybe it's because I don't know the show. But apparently my character kidnapped Sasha and Derrell. Did he do something to them because all he said is he made them do tasks. Id

I use lol for everything lol

If you know the thematic split then who’s scum lol. I know what the fuckin theme is lol

-> @Speedrace

VTL Pie

How do you not know the theme :|

I don’t know the thematic split. I’m theorizing what it could be lol. Ofc I know what the theme is

--> @Danielle

There is an inherent leftist bias with sites such as Twitter. I despise Twitter, not because of their blatant lying, but the Twitter community itself is so shit.

--> @Danielle

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Epstein%20Testimony.pdf

this is a calculated attack on conservatives, there is no other way to put it

On Election Day in 2018, the “Go Vote” reminder Google displayed on its homepage gave one political party between 800,000 and 4.6 million more votes than itgave the other party. Those numbers might seem impossible, but I published myanalysis in January 2019 (https://is.gd/WCdslm) (Epstein, 2019a), and it is quiteconservative. Google’s data analysts presumably performed the same calculationsI did before the company decided to post its prompt. In other words, Google’s “GoVote” prompt was not a public service; it was a vote manipulation.3. In the weeks leading up to the 2018 election, bias in Google’s search results mayhave shifted upwards of 78.2 million votes to the candidates of one political party(spread across hundreds of local and regional races). This number is based on datacaptured by my 2018 monitoring system, which preserved more than 47,000election-related searches on Google, Bing, and Yahoo, along with the nearly400,000 web pages to which the search results linked. Strong political bias towardone party was evident, once again, in Google searches (Epstein & Williams, 2019).4. My recent research demonstrates that Google’s “autocomplete” search suggestionscan turn a 50/50 split among undecided voters into a 90/10 split without people'sawareness (http://bit.ly/2EcYnYI) (Epstein, Mohr, & Martinez, 2018). A growingbody of evidence suggests that Google is manipulating people’s thinking andbehavior from the very first character people type into the search box.5. Google has likely been determining the outcomes of upwards of 25 percent of thenational elections worldwide since at least 2015. This is because many races arevery close and because Google’s persuasive technologies are very powerful

from the link

-> @oromagi

I agree, I believe short buys are ultimately flawed, but companies like Robinhood should not be limiting access to buy these stocks. Now the stock has decreased because big billionaires are going to sell. The free market should be free, not restricted. Restricted markets are communism 

Do you not think it's odd that every celebrity who is known to have contracted covid and has that story published before being hospitalized, survives? Even the very old ones like Trump? It doesn't make mathematical sense. 

• learned they had COVID before hospitalization. 
  
• COVID tends to come on fast and hard.  The majority of people who get hospitalized for COVID learn they contracted the disease after admission, not before.
  
• Less than a third of Americans have gotten even one COVID test but some unknown percent of celebrities are more likely to get tested more often- politicians, athletes.  Still, the set of people whose job requires regular testing tends to preclude the set of people who are likely to die from COVID.  80% of people who die from COVID are over 65 and have at least one pre-existing condition but that population very rarely has jobs important enough to warrant regular testing. 
  
• Of these, you want people who announced their illness publicly.  Some celebrity illness is going to impact many other jobs- politicians, actors, athletes and so they are likely to make some report but I imagine that most celebrities who don't need to make an announcement would prefer to wait until the illness has passed to announce. 
  

--> @Danielle

The Trump you hate does not exist. He is your strawman.

None of these highlighted presidents did anything that Roosevelt didn’t, but Trump did, as I said. I’ve cited the evidence. Cry me a river.