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@Vegasgiants
Dude okay. I think you live in America. Why don't you walk over to Canada and randomly start declaring the land there as yours.
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@Vegasgiants
What was the settling of th Gaza strip in response too? Why didn't they literally just get apartments in Israel?
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@Vegasgiants
I watched the presidential debates on youtube. I guess it was fake and Chris Christie never called Donald Trump, Donald Duck.
What do you consider a valid source if footage of aomething happening is not evidence by the way?
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@Lemming
I mean the. Only to Egypt and Jordan literally advanced Jewish interests while the tech to china hurts America. So I don't know if it is comparable
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@Vegasgiants
I can't take youtube as a valid source. Lol
Yes footage of events cannot be trusted.
Sorry buddy, AI isn't there yet. I saw a grandma geld hostage by hamas giving the peace sign on youtube. I guess it was fake and footage on youtube is less credible than when the exact same footage is shared on CNN
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@Vegasgiants
"Stop attacking after we attack you first and we pro.ise like e have hundreds of times and lied that we will stop being aggressive towards you
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@Vegasgiants
They literally told you overand over
Remove the illegal settlements or we will attack and defend ourselves from invasions.
How many thousands of times do hy need to say it.
What israel is doing is negotiating with palesti e over who gets how much pizza while simultaneously eating the pizza.
They absolutely should stop attacking. I think both sides should stop being evil.
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@Lemming
China is essentially one of America's biggest enemies and it is evil that America's ally is selling them military tech they have no other way of acquiring.
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@Vegasgiants
They have every right to defend themselves, but thy should stop sending settlers to the Gaza strip and west Jerusalem.
Just let this people rule themselves and stop persecuting then. Let them be equals and stop with treating g them like 2nd class citizens. There I a reason America does not have green eyed people rebelling like this. It is because green eyed people are assumed to be equal
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@Vegasgiants
It is official policy of the people you are defending to wipe out the existence of Israel
I seriously doubt that. That is absurd.
Yeah. They fire thousands of rockets at Israel. Give them more freedom and it will be tens of thousabds
That I not how it works. Freedom fighters jut want freedom and to be left alone. If those things are accomplished they have zero to fight for. Put yourself in their shoes.
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@Vegasgiants
The government Is literally trading military tech with China.
We have people attack religions in the US too
Yes but not like that and not to that extent. It may not be the government doing it, but if every citizen supports this and I assume it is about 75% of Israelis given the footage I see on youtube than its these people requesting that America saves them
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After America I itiated a trade war with China. Israel sided with China over america abd widened it's economic relationship
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/16/us-israel-china-deals/
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@Vegasgiants
I'm th religion forum I showed videos of Israeli citizens attacking, spitting on and mocking Christians as well as vandalizing heir churches, which you failed to respond to.
Please since you are passionate about Israell, tell me why thy are doing something as inexcusable as selling American military tech to America's biggest enemy
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Israel sells American military tech to America's biggest enemy. China. This is unrelated to the hamas attacks, it is a separate subject and deserves it's own thread.
These people are not American allies. There is zero excuse to sell military tech to an American enemy.
They are traitorous towards their friends. Imagine how they treat those they don't like.
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Both have sex for money. I don't know that there is much of a difference. It can be argued all women are whores though. I mean most will not sleep with men unless something of value is exchanged, be it love or dates or what have you
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Their current leader, Putin, is also a murderer.
A murderer is one who commits an act that results in death. We are talking about death here.
It's funny. Liberals in my country are compassionate and yet you blame every Russian for the crimes of a government we don't control.
Not once did I say all of you fat Americans are bad because of slavery or by exporting your slave labor to China through the clothes you buy. Yet you will keep wondering why your fellow country men choose the republican party over the hate of the left who are apparently sexist, racist against all Slavic and white people who are poor and the hate within you is perhaps there because you do not know Jesus.
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Name a single current world leader who did not make a decision that resulted in a death ever. I just get the feeling that world leaders make decisions that cause some to die and others to live and that it is a balancing act.
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@FLRW
MSSWFLA ! Make Slovenian Sex Workers First Ladies Again !
I appreciate your support and hope I will be in that position one day.
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@Sidewalker
Don't forget he filled out a form wrong.
As if that is the big deal and not th fact that the secret service attempted to cover up the crime.
Everyone knows it isn't a big deal. That's one of the reasons that even Republicans are annoyed with this indictment. It is just some token thing to say "see we unfairly prosecute people on both sides of the aisle"
The cover up is usually worse than the crime.
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@Vegasgiants
I would be fine with wiping out the Gaza strip
Observe your typical Israeli citizen here that supports genociding all Muslims and then act confused as to why the Muslims behave how they are.
Literally just stop being evil and trying to genocide a whole people. I thought after what Hitler attempted it would teach you people that genocide is bad. Apparently Jews just became the new Hitler though and wonder why people resist them
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@Vegasgiants
Nope. Not until they agree to the right of Israel to exist. They shouldn't give citizenship to a people devoted to their destruction
I am pretty sure they just want to live in peace and this is reactive. I mean if thre was not a silent invasion of thir territory and Israel allowed this mere 25 miles of land to just to self govern without interference than a simple cost benefit analysis says that Palestinians would leave them in peace as well.
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@Vegasgiants
Terrorists
They are literally holding israeli citizens hostage. How do these bombs only impact the terrorists but magically do not kill the Jewish hostage right next to he terrorist?
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@Vegasgiants
Palestine doesn't exist
That's dumb. Have you never looked at a Map?
This is like when my fellow Russians say "Ukraine I not country because one time they belonged to USSR. It's just a stupid argument and the reason you make this bare assertion and never provide premises for it is because you know how stupid the argument is
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@Vegasgiants
They dont bomb Christians communities. Just Palestinian terrorists
They have killed several thousand civilians in the last 5 years. I doubt that collateral damage knows the religion of the unfortunate person who it impacts.
You have Palestinian christians who live in predominantly Muslim communities.
I am also not sure why you would justify indiscriminately killing Muslims anyway or how when you see how Muslims are treated act surprised that sometimes they fight back.
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@Sidewalker
A single thread per board
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@Best.Korea
I am so glad to hear you are much more acco.plished than the men you listed so it is no problem to put them down for how stupid they are.
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@Vegasgiants
Oh so the people in that land can vote for the next Israeli president. Nice I guess the next leader of Israel will be Muslim since they outnumber Jews once you start calling Palestine part of Idrael with completely equal rights and all that.
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I have hundreds of videos of how palestinea s are treated as well if anyone wants to understand d what is going on
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Even after death christians are not done being attacked by Israel
https://youtu.be/RPX2towFpjU?si=fildp6WPLAtQWWL1
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Israelis telling Christians they are not welcome at the west wall and being insulted and told to get out of Israel.
https://youtu.be/vio53jUpJz0?si=ik-7Y3xd9ERmpWBs
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Spitting on a church
https://youtu.be/9TRcADQt_ys?si=UD84fL_vpRWwnBpn
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Preachers being spit on
https://youtu.be/2UpBjx3nupc?si=Yoev6tIBefwvTx42
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Currently Israel is being attacked by Palestine. You can go to youtube and see thousands of videos showing footage of how settlers treat Palestinians.
It might not surprise you that Israel jews are mean to Muslims. Here is what you don't know. They spit on christians, they desecrate their churches. They even get physical with them. https://youtu.be/z581dbGqr08?si=MLcerHm8EJfImIl7
I think it shows the class of these people that this is how they treat Christians while almost every church today will have the preacher and their congregation passing around the collection plate this Sunday to help them, who will be praying en masse for Jewish people. Meanwhile their brothers and sisters in christ are spat on, ridiculed and attacked by these people.
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@Vegasgiants
I don't think it would end. I believe it would end if the Israelis stop settling g on Palestine land in an attempt to have a silent type of invasion. Not sure why they would want to settle in Palestine anyway instead of being in Israel.
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Oh my God. In America politicians are hypocrites? Tell me this isn't so. I thought the political class was loved and adored in America and completely trusted. When the American people find out that politicians are liars they will be so devastated.
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@zedvictor4
The non civilian is the person shooting at you. The civilian is the mother breast feeding her baby in the park while watching her 3 year old play on the slide.
You could also divide them into combatants and non combatants
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@Greyparrot
What is funny is Bloomberg would have actually led you out of that darkness with his policies and he stood no shot at winning
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My job is to look pretty and be pampered while men do back breaking labor to support me or they get sent to war to die for me or they come and arrest other men who bother me. Yes I am the play thing though
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@Greyparrot
I assume for a stupid publicity win. The same with the Britney griner swap
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@Lemming
I just saw this video by a pro Palestinian news agency. Apparently the other videos were israeli propaganda because hamas appears to be protecting women and children caught in the crossfire
https://youtube.com/shorts/vrRe97wGFHA?si=f8C_o15O7wOwe3_f
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@Lemming
I just saw this video by a pro Palestinian news agency. Apparently the other videos were israeli propaganda because hamas appears to be protecting women and children caught in the crossfire
https://youtube.com/shorts/vrRe97wGFHA?si=f8C_o15O7wOwe3_f
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@IlDiavolo
We still have to assume they are rational people. A cost benefit analysis for doing that, seems to indicate it is a bad move that helps your enemies propagandize for recruiting purposes
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@Lemming
Maybe that technique us just good for .uslims who are more prone to be fond of violence then it would be for peaceful religions.
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I am pretty sure putin could beat you in a fist fight.
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@Lemming
Just propaganda?What type of videos would one 'expect, from a 'terrorist organization?
Propaganda campaigns that make then look like the good guys and recruit people to their side.
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It looks like since 2008 Israel has unprovoked attacked and killed Palestinian civilians on at least 4 major incidents. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/7/sirens-warn-of-rockets-launched-towards-israel-from-gaza-news-reports
I understand Israel is more in the wrong here because they are killing more civilians and this is merely retaliation for the murder of civilians but there has to be a better way
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@Best.Korea
Most countries do not target civilians. Civilian casualties are unavoidabl but typically bot intentional
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I want to keep this subject contained to a single thread where various conversations can take off.
On the one hand the Israel invasion of Palestine with hostile "settlers" was essentially them demanding a response. Clearly Palestine was not going to allow itself to be invaded. Thy aren't America.
However on the other hand. Hamas is killing civilians, kidnapping and clearly is acting like a terrorist. There is no reason to target civilians.
Though I do wonder if the videos put out from Hamas are just Israeli propaganda, because it makes little sense for them to show that sort of evil and get the whole world against them. It makes more sense for then to propagandize the opposite.
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