sadolite

A virus compared to the worthless masks people wear is the same as a chain link fence to stop mosquitos >>>>> Indisputable Science  "Stay safe"

sadolite questions the 'necessity of some measures in post #10        I question the cost benefit, is it better to destroy an entire nations economy for a perceived but unproven mandate that is questionable at best. Science says masks that are not designed to stop a virus does not stop a virus. Wearing a mask in a common area then taking it off in the same building under the same HAVAC system defies all scientific logic. These measures are placebos and control measures to condition people to comply with anything govt says.  Oh your store can stay open and spread covid everywhere and to everyone but your store cant. "SCIENCE"

Uh no, capitalism has nothing to do with govt forcibly making you close your business. That is tyranny of the highest order. You clearly are not one of the millions who lost everything, that is why you are so flippant and dismissive about it.

"As if you have ever experienced or remotely understand "tyranny like conditions".  Ya tell that to the millions who have lost everything because govt put them out of business and out of work. Half of all small businesses that were forced to close will never reopen. That is tyranny of the highest order.

 "As a society should we strive to minimize risk of death where we can?"  My only responsibility is not to be a burden on society, I have no obligation to protect you from what I can not control.

So what, life goes on regardless for the rest of us. You want me to live in fear, quit my job stay home and go bankrupt so I don't get Covid or spread it. Destroying the economy and making people live in tyranny like conditions isn't a better solution. The phycological damage being done to young children by making them fear everything and everyone will be untold and of epic proportions.  They will be the generation to scared to even go outside. I live my life the same as I ever have. I can die tomorrow. Covid is just another of thousands of ways to die on the list as far as I am concerned. Live in fear, I don't care.  I wont. Tens of millions of people die every year, Never bothered anyone before. Maybe being thrown out of a window in a 20 story building is a better way to die. One thing is for sure, you wont cheat death no matter what precautions and measures you take. You will fucking die no matter what. If you were destined to die of covid 19 you will die of covid 19. I dont care what you do to try and prevent it. You will absolutely die of covid 19. Your death is your final destiny. You cant change it. It is already written and marked on a calendar in the future. No road or action you take will take you to a different final destiny. They all lead to the same place. Baring anything man made, I have always accepted that viruses and disease have been natures natural population control. The animal kingdom is subject to it, only the physically and generically strong survive. Humans are screwing with nature and the natural order of things. Maybe 4.4 million are supposed to die and I might be the next one. If its man made, then its willful genocide. Big difference. Population control no matter how you look at it.

"How to fake a positive covid19 test' Has anyone ever tested negative? Just take the test, there's a 99.7% chance it will be positive anyway.  

Why are social workers so terrible at their jobs? Govt does not require results to keep your govt  job. 

"What difference does it make" Hillary Clinton

drlebronski  How lame, you blocked me. Anyhow there is a silver lining though, No competition in the work place and the satisfaction of seeing them perpetually angst and poor.

Virus's can, metaphorically speaking, fly out your ass, but cant mutate on their own. 

Who was that communist guy with absolutely perfect English writing skills that never misspelled a word and had a vocabulary the size of the Grand Canyon.

The virus runs wild no matter what, its airborne everywhere. So you actually believe that the covid vaccine stops the virus from mutating? What happens to all the covid viruses floating around in the air everywhere around the world? Are they psychic and decide not to mutate into any number of countless ways because they know a useless vaccine has been made that doesn't do anything to stop it? The vaccine didn't do shit to protect anyone from the so called variant. Maybe covid is just the flu. 

"because the delta varient which happened because no one got vaccinated i also doubt you ever wear a mask" Please do tell how me not wearing a mask causes a virus to mutate or how not being vaccinated causes a virus to mutate. I'll wait. Cant wait to hear this science.

What does god have to do with any of this? God doesn't control outcome.

Oh and you do know the vaccine does not stop the spread of covid.  Vaccinated or not you will get it if you are predisposed to get it. So your red herring argument that if I don't get vaccinated i will spread covid is complete BS. All the vaccine claims to do is lessen the symptoms and that is it. And that cant even be proved  as the vast majority show  little or no symptoms when they get it when they are unvaccinated. 

And you wonder why I don't listen to people like you. LOL

"At what point is it far enough for you right-wing nutjobs to call it racist and too far?" Is this supposed to promote intellectually honest dialogue?  All this does is make me hate all of humanity and hope an asteroid wipes every living human being of the face of the planet.

EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IS RACIST. End of story. If hasn't been labeled racist, it will be., The word has no meaning. What will the race baiting assholes do when they run out of things to call racist. 

HUMOUR IS OFFICIALY DEAD. 

That's the beauty of being right about everything. You never have to admit you are wrong. Take the scientific community for example, they are never wrong about anything. The standard response is this, "Our findings or decision was based on the  available facts and information" Never mind our decision killed 100,000 people.

That sounds pretty wokedy woke. If you cant laugh at people what's the point of living?  If I am laughing with you what the hell am I laughing at?

 "Funny thing is that if that time passes and there is no massive die-off and I necro this thread four years from now asking you about that claim you won't admit you were wrong."   This comment is a two way street.  Seems time will tell, that's why I wont get vaccinated. I will let time tell if the vaccine is safe. I have a 99.7% chance of living without it anyway.  There are dozens if not hundreds more deadly things I might die of on a daily bases than dying from covid.  People who live in fear of covid are already dead, they choose to quit living life.

"Stop being racist against blacks." OK done, now what? People still call me a fucking racist. That plan doesn't work. Seems to me the most racist people you will ever meet are people who talk about race and play the race card. Based on  years of first hand observation and real life experience. Most notably sites such as theses.

I am not a member of or affiliated with any group. Groups are for group thinkers and the lowest common denominator. Your are only as good as the worst member of the group. 

Its the butt hurt, woke thread LOL

Talking about race and playing the race card is for racists. Oh damn I talked about race now I am a racist. Well anyway I judge people based on their ability to sweat a copper fitting, wire a three way switch, fix a toilet, and hang dry wall. If you cant do these things, you are pretty much useless and need to be looked after like a child.

Don't know who you are talking to but Trump isn't President anymore so I don't know why his name even enters into any discussion. Who gives a shit what Biden says or Trump says. Science? What science? I see politicly motivated attempts to control human behavior.  Selfish? Your health and well being are your responsibility. If you are afraid of getting sick and dying and living in fear for the rest of your life, then you stay home and never go out. You would have the entire population bow to your fears. Talk about selfish.

Sooo how many bikers at Sturgis have died of Covid? You most certainly have the numbers or you wouldn't have mentioned it. You wouldn't just post some unsubstantiated BS would you?

The very second govt and science used threats and shaming I quit listening

Using disparaging words to marginalize people and their opinions  just makes one  look like a condescending asshole. Just saying. You will never get anyone to listen to anything you say not ever. Might as well talk to yourself in a mirror and a echo chamber. That's why people who question vaccines and covid have doubts. There is no other reason. Science has proved with out any doubt to flip flop on a weekly bases and is at best guessing. The arguments here are just the same as govt officials and scientists, condescending and insulting with the added negative of threatening people and their lively hoods threats of fines and imprisonment  and last but not least stooping to offering  offering bribes. Ya that's science. Real convincing. Just saying.  I choose not to live and fear, don't like it? to fucking bad.  The long term will prove the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine and nothing else. All who have taken it will know in a few years. Hears to your "faith" in science. I have faith in my immune system.

Your opinion is based on what you what you choose to read listen to and  believe.  I choose not  to use your sources as accurate information. Ya, I can do that. My sources tend to mirror what I actually see , yours do not.  So there you have it. You will be dead in a month. I will still be alive and kicking.

I don't know about this. I work hard, pay my taxes, play by the rules, help people who deserve it, yet am surrounded by woke fucking entitlement minded idiots everywhere from which there is no escape.

Actually the case is not over according to this link. The case is on going because of willful procedural violations by the state and failure to provide the evidence that the virus has in fact been isolated. The state has to prove this to pass any mandates or restrictions with regard to any virus or pandemic. So far, I say half true. The case is real and is ongoing.

I was just wondering if in fact the man actually did win his case because the state couldn't provide evidence to justify the fine, or if it was a conspiracy and the state did provide the evidence. Or if the case is even real.  If in fact the case is real I was thinking it would be a precedent defense against fines involving covid mandates. The state has to prove the virus has been isolated in order to say it exists according to this. The state failed to do so. Is the case real? That's the conspiracy I was talking about.

Has anyone heard about this conspiracy theory that covid 19 doesn't exist and that it is just the flu. 

If a communist country invaded the US, how would I be able to tell who is the enemy and who to fight? Why would I even fight? What would I be fighting for? What would I be defending?

I would choose neither. Humanity as a whole has demonstrated it does not deserve to exist countless times. I am embarrassed for humanity. Not a day passes that I don't shake my head in disgust. I'll be dead soon so there's that silver lining.

The year 2020 has proved beyond all doubts that the vast majority of people are programmable black boxes. The year 2020 also revealed who would and who wouldn't have complied in WW2 Nazi Germany. Did you take note? I sure as hell did. Now I know who never to trust and who would sell me out and throw me under the bus.

I said the same thing so I don't know where the disagreement is.

Why the fuck are you even responding? Quit fucking responding to my posts. 

Trumpeteers --like you-- have Trumpet [ narrcisic ego } disease that makes most of you sick in the head and stupidity via ego kills self ---if only indirectly---  and others also indirectly.

 Your not interested in truth or seeing the truth about yourself { trumpeteer ] and Trumpet { immoral }  Typical of all trumpeteers.

OK truth lecturer. State for the record that these comments are absolute fact. They are not your opinions or a indoctrinated political narrative that you spew on a daily bases.

The truth about yourself on full display using your own words. That is absolute fact.

How could anyone possibly have any kind of dialogue with such a insulting fucking asshole

You still cant answer the question correctly. What restrictions and mandates should govt force on people to reduce the deaths from your selection.

Oh and you still are to chickenshit to pick from the list and answer.

Also you are everything you claim not to be. You dismiss entire groups of people for simply not agreeing with your politics. You write them off as being sick in the head. It is you that is the narcist and ego maniac. Your ego is fragile it cant even withstand a differing opinion without you being an insulting asshole.

All covid vaccines are experimental. They are approved for emergency use only. The long term effects are unknown. Those who take the vaccines for covid are hoping the vaccines have none.  If they do have harmful side effects you are shit out of luck and have no legal recourse. You took it voluntarily and were told it was experimental.

You have Trump Derangement Syndrome so bad its laughable. How does Trump even figure into the OP?

"I don’t think the government should prohibit things in the name of saving lives" This has been proved to be  Irrelevant, pick a cause of death from the list and state what restrictions and mandates the govt should force on the people to reduce the number of deaths from your selection.

I am not talking about covid, you are.   You stated earlier>>>>>>The State can only attempt to educate and advise, which it probably already does. We both know this to be patently false. Both state and local govts have required people to use masks and force govt employees to be vaccinated and or face retribution by having their livelihoods destroyed.  So with that said, pick from the list and state what restrictions and mandates the govt should force on people to reduce the numbers of that particular cause of death.

Point proven. You are to chicken shit to make hard decisions. You would pick one and answer it if you weren't.  You are scared of what others might think of you for taking a hard stand on something that might be perceived as unpopular. You need the approval of others. You are afraid to stand alone on your own views. You only take positions based on societal popularity.

You cant answer the question. You are to chicken shit too. You refuse to go on record or take a position.