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No idea what happened in the game but balance looks fine to me. Maybe a bit townsided if anything but it's pretty good IMO
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@ILikePie5
I can now say this without an agenda.
Lynching me twice is literally the worst possible path of action. That was so incredibly stupid. You let mafia get two free NKs
I'm the godfather that claimed lynchproof? Also fucking stupid.
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Warren really had no other options but to do what he did. It was good play.
Assuming mafia doesn't get killed it'd be
D1: 9v2
D2: 7v2
D3: 5v2
At which point I'd have claimed D3 innocent child. I get called out "it's D3 already you weren't revealed" and I throw a fit yelling at Lunatic for not revealing me. I get lynched it's 4v3 and we just need a successful NK.
I could've also claimed vanilla but that's no fun.
D1: 9v2
D2: 7v2
D3: 5v2
At which point I'd have claimed D3 innocent child. I get called out "it's D3 already you weren't revealed" and I throw a fit yelling at Lunatic for not revealing me. I get lynched it's 4v3 and we just need a successful NK.
I could've also claimed vanilla but that's no fun.
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Why the fuck would we lynch me and shoot me rather than just shoot me. This is so moronic and I can't think of how to dumb it down any more than that
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@ILikePie5
Okay I'm already on your side but all the reason more
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Based on the wording I'd imagine it means that I overcame being betrayed and it didn't lead to my downfall/death?
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@ILikePie5
Regarding "done in" I can ask, I don't have context because as I said I don't know the show. I saw one episode where Daenarys or however you spell her name uses her dragon to execute a father and son
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@coal
Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. TUF has a thing about cops not being trustworthy.
I had the same thought but why would he give mafia the fake claim cop and then give them a JOAT with framer and lawyer
Unless he just REALLY wants to hit home not to trust cops
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@Speedrace
No I can't, Pie asked if I had to activate it, I said no it's passive
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@Speedrace
That's why I gave multiple options. Hell, I can be shot and investigated tonight if they want
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This is literally the dumbest conversation I've had to have in my five years of playing mafia.
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I don't even know what to say about this at this point. Lynch or shoot me, I don't give a shit, but don't waste back to back days lynching me, cause that's literally the worst possible option for town.
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In what world do I, as the godfather, claim lynchproof?
In what world do I, as the godfather, suggest our vig shoots me?
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@ILikePie5
So in what world do I, as the godfather, say "sure, lynch me at any time to prove that I'm lynchproof"
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Oh wait, not only am I a lynchproof godfather, I'm a lynchproof godfather that is advocating for myself to be shot as one of the best courses of action.
Right.
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@ILikePie5
I’m still thinking about the optimal course of action
Well keep thinking, cause any way you cut it you're taking the worst possible course of action.
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@ILikePie5
Yeah Pie, I'm the lynchproof godfather and my partner was a lawyer/framer JOAT. That's quite possibly the stupidest fucking suggestion I've ever heard in a mafia game.
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@ILikePie5
Why the hell would there be a godfather AND a lawyer/framer JOAT?
And what, I'm godfather judas? Or godfather lynchproof? Which stupid, ridiculous OP role is it?
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@coal
@drafterman
@whiteflame
@oromagi
@Speedrace
Let me lay this out for everyone. Pie thinks I'm actually Judas and should be lynched twice back to back.
If I'm 1x lynchproof these are the options
- Lynch me back to back days, I turn up innocent, you've wasted two days, mafia gets 2 free NKs essentially.
- Drafter shoots me. Not ideal, as it'll hit town, but not a bad shot in theory.
- You just leave me be and whiteflame investigates me, confirms I'm innocent, and we carry on.
If I'm Judas
- Lynch me back to back days, I turn up guilty, but mafia has gotten two free kills still.
- Drafter shoots me. I'm town before I'm first lynched, so not ideal but not a terrible shot.
- Whiteflame investigates me, confirms I'm innocent, and I continue to play to my original (town) wincon.
Why the fuck would you pick what is objectively the worst possible option in both worlds?
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@ILikePie5
Then whiteflame can investigate me now.
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Why would you lynch me twice and waste two DPs to find out I'm innocent. You know how much I like playing as mafia, if I was Judas I'd have done something to get myself lynched D1.
Even better question, if you think I'm Judas why not just not lynch me so I'm still town? lmao that's such a stupid plan.
Drafter can shoot me, that's fine.
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@ILikePie5
I don't have to activate it, it's passive so it's provable, so we can lynch me at any time idc. Only downside to doing so is A. I obviously lose the ability and B. The DP does end, yeah.
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@ILikePie5
Can you have an ounce of patience? It took 5 minutes between when I last posted and this. I'm at work, I can't be playing mafia the entire time
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I'm 1x lynchproof since I survived past the Red Wedding and didn't get done in when I was betrayed. This is why I was suspicious of drafter. It's not like we can't both exist, but it was concerning to me.
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I've seen weak hider more than hider, so from a meta perspective it seems to be the go-to, so you could argue "default" in a roundabout way, but I've always seen it say "you are the weak hider" when someone is weak.
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@oromagi
has GP claimed his Night action?
Should he? What utility does it serve other than letting mafia start to potentially try to figure out who it'll be next? We don't have a tracker or watcher left to verify and he isn't a weak hider so we don't gain info of someone's innocence by him claiming his target.
Am I missing a reason he should?
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@ILikePie5
I don't particularly care if I go before or after him
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Bruh y'all need to chill coal led the wagon and you've put him at L-1 today just cause he hasn't claimed yet what the fuck? He hasn't even been on since day start
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I like that I betrayed the people who betrayed me though. You ain't loyal I ain't fucking with you. Instead I'll murder every wedding guest.
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@oromagi
For what it's worth I've seen one episode of Game of Thrones
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Okay so I've come around to almost completely trusting whiteflame and his results. Weird they didn't target the cop still but I'll take it.
So
Town
whiteflame
oro/pie
coal
Townlean
Supa
Null
speed/grey
Scumlean
Drafter
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Oh wait I'm an idiot no whiteflame isn't using a fake claim, else there'd be no reason for mafia to have cop-manipulating abilities
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Oh shit I didn't even read the OP, I figured Chris was actually the mime or mimic or something, him being JOAT with cop-manipuating abilities makes me feel better about Whiteflame's results. I doubt there's a godfather on top of that. Ironically, it makes me feel just a tiny bit worse about whiteflame himself since Lunatic has made cops fake claims and even given millers to town to bolster the fake claim.
His goal was allegedly for town to not so blindly trust cop claims, which I suppose with even just an ounce of paranoia he's probably gonna be feeling good about himself lmao.
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@ILikePie5
Cause if he doesn’t die NP3 he’s scum. I’m borderline thinking about no lynching tomorrow if it’s 5-2 after today just so we can get Drafter out of the way.
I missed a few pages last DP and was going to read in the night but everyone got their actions in so quick I didn't do that, why is he confirmed after NP3?
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@ILikePie5
Walder Frey, I'm apparently the guy who started the Red Wedding. Basically one of my daughters was supposed to marry a Stark and I even threw in some extra servants and shit but I got fucked over and he married someone else so I had everyone killed but they started it and had it coming
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@ILikePie5
Why are you excluding drafter?
Other than that I'm fine with your POE (other than me, but that's obvious)
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@whiteflame
Why him over me? I think that me hammering looks decent. Him starting the wagon looks better though. Guess I'm just confused on why your pressure is going there.
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So, that knocks off the remaining scum reads from Elm. It's possible that I'm still flavored in some way or that he managed to screw with the results, but it's more likely that Pie is town, leaving open the question as to who is scum. That means Oro, Pie and myself are all at least town leaning if not town confirmed.
Like Pie suggested the fact that you're alive bothers me, I don't distrust your results necessarily, particularly since I felt good about oro and okay about pie already, but the fact you're left alive indicates either a framer or godfather to me.
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@whiteflame
Why Coal, given he started the Chris wagon? I'd expect him to be at the bottom of that list of 3
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Also this is shitty but can you see when someone was last online? Cause anyone not online since the end of the last DP is locked clear, Lunatic wouldn't allow Chris to push it through without at least consulting with the living mafia
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So I guess that leaves grey, drafter, and speed.
Drafter not getting a shot off is unfortunate if he's town, because it is a bit suspicious.
Anyone want to claim a town roleblock on him?
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I'm very confident in oro and coal
I'm *okay* with Pie, supa, and whiteflame
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Coal started it, I pushed it and then you tagged alongYou were wavering the entire time, I was the one who got warren to hammer
For the record the only way you "got me to hammer" was because you pointed out the amount of time left, I thought we had still had about 30 minutes
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@drafterman
Why would you try to kill oro when it was more or less him vs chris based on the role dichotomy and Chris was town?
Did you lose your shot since you were roleblocked or do you keep it?
Did you lose your shot since you were roleblocked or do you keep it?
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@ILikePie5
I've been posting literally all morning fuck you mean where am I
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Airmax1227- You are Bethany, From Jumanji. Bethany, a high school popular girl, finds herself in the body of a fat man after getting her conscious transferred into a video game. You are the Mime. Each night you can warp into the body of another player, inheriting their role to use for that night phase. You win with the mafia.
This is max's PM of a similar role from live mafia that Lunatic used, for what that's worth
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Warren is pretty AWOL as Pie said, so maybe he's worth interrogating some
"This guy isn't here, let's ask him questions, that will yield a result!"
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