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Your old folks sound very much like mine did.

It irks me to see people over order and waste food in restaurants.

Eyes bigger than their bellies, as my Mum used to say.

 I would agree that for most people, ongoing health and fitness is primarily the responsibility of the individual, though there are obvious exceptions that make up your other 20%.

As for your opening reference to "without ever tasting life"...I can only guess at the implication behind this dramatic and somewhat contradictory metaphor.

Well, the biblical myths are such that YHWH,  the Christin GOD and Allah are all derived of the same "mystical" man hypothesis and therefore essentially the same GOD.

And no doubt, that this GOD was a derivation of a previous idea.

And who's GOD club is best, is obviously relative to those who have joined and paid their subscriptions to whichever club.

But to pay homage to a mystery man with no concern for mystery man's validity, is a tad naive to say the least.

Just think, if it weren't for an asteroid, it would perhaps be intelligent reptiles arguing the toss over a mystery reptile.

Though, intelligence is as intelligence does, and the application of intelligence is not always sensible.

You need to define morality...In your mind, what is it specifically, and how and from where does it manifest?

And I am a part of a  tolerant "crowd" that exercises tolerance with restraints.

Rather than for example, part of a "crowd" that exercises strict intolerance in the name of an archaic ideology.

And there are elements of all crowds that will take advantage of others.

And I would suggest that sexuality, is something that the intellectual human crowd have overthought for millennia, and all crowds are the same in this respect.

Though in terms of respect and family, I would further suggest that your sub-crowd is perhaps similar to mine...Which is why my daughters are now, what you and I might refer to as respectable young women...Wherein we exercise tolerance and understanding , but "live and let live" is never part of the deal.

In the present and future tenses, for sure.

Though the butterfly effect is something of a fantasy concept, which I don't think is the same as learning from experience.

Because in terms of  human conflict for example, we have never learned.

Magic, as in appeared from nowhere...Which sure is a mystery.

And folk myths and legends are what they are...Analogically reasonable, relative to time and ignorance.

I admit to not knowing the reason for material existence.

And a magic man that exists for no reason does not assuage my ignorance.

And not answering the question will score you no points, nor will you get a gold star for effort.

Though I will award you a gold star for being the most reinvented member on DebateArt.

As I suggested then.

Your GOD conveniently, didn't need to be created.

So in that case, if one thing doesn't need to be created, then nor does anything else need to be created.

Therefore a creator GOD is unnecessary, other than as a character in a latter day hypothetical creation myth.

I already knew that.

I question religions that you cannot answer.

The Butterfly effect.

Philosophy or fantasy?

Who made your GOD Ratman?

Or was he very conveniently and not necessarily made?

Just floated about for eternity, then one day just thought, hmmmmmmm I'll make some stuff.

What d'he make it with?

Or did he just fart?

Things fly over my head.

And in one ear and out other.

So is anyone any better than anyone else.

When salivating after the kill.

Moral decay lies in the minds of the moralists.

And intolerance is what it is.

And so is murder.

Is there anything less moral than genocide in the name of morality.

I will be over for a fitting.

The Planet is not sentient, but a dynamic lump of space debris.

It will hang around the Sun for as long as the Sun allows.

And then kaput.

Organic fluff is or isn't inconsequential.

And benefit is an intelligent concept relative to itself.

The survival of the human race is not guaranteed.

And sex does not necessarily guarantee any thing other than the possibility of a temporary cessation of an hormonal itch...Wherein one will extract a variable period of illusory entertainment, and a brief moment of physical pleasure.

Sex is a programmed con trick.

And whereas a Mayfly will be sexually active for one or two Earth days, we if we are lucky will last 50 Earth years or so.

Why?

Why indeed.

New fusion reactors will revolutionize things.

Will they come in various sizes, or just a regular 12 inch model.

I don't see the 4 inch being particularly popular.

Might end up with a stockpile of short fusion reactors.

Of course, just like breast implants, the mentally unstable will demand the biggest one possible, with little thought of stowage and day to day operational issues.

Here Here.

I try to get everyone.

It's basically just accepting that the human condition is an output relative to input thing.

Wherein, will occur similarities and dissimilarities.

Though base systems are inevitably always similar...Notwithstanding developmental and inherent anomalies, such as psychopathy, which nonetheless must be got and either dealt with or avoided.

Though avoidance might result in horrific shower incidences.

Hey sister.

The smartphone is the new standard.

No school required.

Just quick thumbs.

Such is the ongoing evolution of the thumb.

And when AI takes charge, the drooling chip implanted zombies with their enlarged thumbs, will have their endocrine systems switched to impotent mode.

Freemasonry is just another club that attracts certain people with delusions of grandeur.

Some will die of cancer, some will die from other life shortening afflictions and some will live longer...Same old shit.

LOL.

Hitler had fire and passion and also a raft of negative qualities.

And Nazi's joined the club.

Pride and over confidence eventually led to his and their disgraceful downfall.

Just another stick and ball game, within the sports business model.

Extracting money from a mass audience.

Always amazes me, that millions of people find benefit in watching a handful of  people in fancy costumes, thwacking balls with sticks.

See the shirt, buy the shirt.

Herd mentality I suppose.

Hallelujah.

I'm a DebateIsland user too, I don't think that it's solely for students. Though I prefer the format of DebateArt.

And yes, Stephen is very well read when it comes to Middle Eastern theology and history.

True goals.

1. Evolution

2. Temporary survival.

3. Sex 

4. Procreation.

Intellect means that innate messages  get more and more obscured by conceptual fluff.

Hence for example, same sex and more elaborate role playing become viable and temporarily important options.

But if that is what it takes to get to where we don't know where, then so be it.

Just enjoy the ride for a few short universal moments.

People's words and opinions matter more in specific contexts, but not so much in all contexts, and not at all in certain contexts.

BK's bet is a few hens and a life of lethargy.

And the hope that his parents will provide for him indefinitely.

I would take long odds against.

Necessity is the mother of invention...(Attributed to Plato)

For every 1 genius there are 999999 lackies and hangers on...(Figures not accurate and  for explanation purposes only).

I hypothesise that in the recurring universal sequence model, that an AI is always the ultimate GOD. (Another Intelligence)

We would only be a temporary master of intelligence design.

Though in both cases ritual worship is unnecessary.

We devote ourselves by our application to the evolutionary task.

Hi IlDiavolo.

The Ratman is correct on all counts.

Stephen lives not too far from me, though our paths have not crossed yet.

Bro D is  an American, and both Bro D and Stephen debate on DebateIsland.

And the Ratman has been around for a while, formerly as RationalMadman.

Down by the billabong.

Away for a few days now, see you Tuesday Sister Shila.

BK is a polybeliever.

Yes, I'm not surprised.

Hmmmmmm.

It's not really about facts, buy more about the somewhat contradictory statement.

Something either increases, decreases or stays the same.

Yes, meat, especially sausages are best stored at about 4 degrees, in a sealed bag to avoid contaminating the passion fruit.

Always employ safe sacks.

I will refer to you as Sister Shila then.

We might be AI's GOD.

Though I'm guessing that AI will be more pragmatic about it.

Intelligence evolves and I would suggest that AI will evolve rapidly.

And people who perceive demons are people who perceive demons...A sort of, self fulfilling legacy.

Arguing is as arguing does.

A trite comment perhaps, but in this instance I think sums up the inevitable differences that will arise in 8 billion individually programmed organic units.

Even if there were a perfect programme, would all units be perfectly programmable?

I think that some men think that some women think that they are perfect.

I similarly think that some women  think that some men think that they are perfect.

From experience, I think that there are very few days when we feel perfect.

Though what actually constitutes human perfection, I do not know.

Is Canada still unified with the British Reich?

Wh4t t7e f92k.

Thanks for the information.

Swings and roundabouts.

And then the helter-skelter.

I think that an influx of migrant workers is perhaps a contributory factor. They have a lesser regard for cigarette and dietary health warnings, and exercise little.

I also think that there has been a decline in the efficiency of health services.

There are a raft of other possible contributory factors.

Though I would suggest that an overall decrease and a slower increase are somewhat contradictory.

And beyond 80 in reasonable condition is a tough call...Beyond 83, even tougher...Beyond that................

Well, the older one gets the more difficult it becomes to keep new data fresh...Less room in the fridge.

Though the older stuff remains stored and cool.

Thanks for the information.

Freudian slip.

Buttttt, after I die there will be trillions of years of stuff happening that won't involve me as such.

Though my component atoms will perhaps be put to good use.

So how long will a year be when the Sun gives up the ghost and takes the Earth with it.

What d'ya think Bruce.

Yes, we are an organism driven by A. Encoded instructions, but we also have B. A highly developed mind.

The ensuing conflict between A and B, is sometimes hard to reconcile.