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I'm not sure what you mean.

But belief is an odd concept at the best of times.

Please clarify.

Hmmmmmm.

Seems that one needs to be surviving in a hot dry uncontaminated environment, with and abundance of dryable foodstuff, preferably with the electricity still switched on.

Which doesn't strike me as too bad a survival situation.

Of course, an uncontaminated water supply would also be helpful.

And...........

We await chapter 2 with baited breath.

You do have 3 political groups.

Dyed in the wool Republicans.

Dyed in the wool Democrats.

Moderates. People who actually think about what they are voting for. Rather than just gormless flag waving.

Given that millions of  people label as both Christian and LGBTQ, and that most loosely labelled Christians probably couldn't give a toss.

Then clearly, hatred is only really the remit of a certain minority hard-line Christian faction.

Christian bullies if you like, who think that they know better than everyone else. And that everyone else should do as they say.

Sort of typically how things occur socio-politically.

Material evolution is progressive by definition, and everything that occurs falls within the remit of progressive materialism/evolution. 

So Darwin, primarily studied the organic bit, but material progression starts way before the organic and may well exceed the organic. 

Modern popular religion only popped up a few thousand years ago, relative to the development of hominid cognition, and is based upon the typical concept of an unknowable force that governs humanity and it's environment. A concept borne of an evolving/progressive intellect, albeit naive by modern standards.

So in that respect deism is theoretical, albeit naive by modern standards, but primarily based upon a fantastical assumption.

A fantastical assumption by definition cannot be subjected to real scientific scrutiny.

And no, a GOD didn't rape a virgin. If anyone did impregnate a virgin named Mary, it certainly wasn't a fantasy GOD. It was more likely to be the human philanderer.

And the product of that relationship spent his life promoting the ancient Hebrew fantasy GOD concept. Promoting himself as the son of that GOD, which in that hypothetical context  is not an absurd suggestion.

Eventually falling foul of the governing authority though, paying heavily for his insurrection.

Perfect martyr material for the oppressed people of Roman occupied "Holy Land". And so it's therefore no wonder that succeeding literature was correspondingly exaggerated.

Though give them their due, the Romans clearly decided that Mary was a cracker. Just like the philanderer did.

The heart is a lump of muscle that pumps blood.

And theists don't start with false assumptions and draw false conclusions? Pull the other one.

And Gods aren't deceptive, because they're make believe. People are deceptive.

And you've largely ignored answers to the OP.

Which might suggest that you are being deceptive.

And science starts with evidence and seeks to understand, proposing, testing and rejecting theories along the way. Science is all about the burden of proof.

Whereas Christianity accepts Middle Eastern Folk Tales as undeniable fact without question. So for sure, the burden of proof isn't burdensome if you completely ignore the burden.

Conditioned ignorance is bliss I suppose.

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Sort of vertically challenging the horizontal establishment.

Vote RM.

Science in it's purest form has existed ever since the first hominid had an idea.

Stuff happens BigBuffMan.

It's now, now, and what is, is.

And stuff will continue to happen and become stuff that happened.

And indigenes are only settlers, relative to a cherrypicked moment in time.

And then others came and settled.

And people continue to come and settle.

We are either one species or not.

And demarcation lines on maps are just that.

Yearning for the good old days is futile.

How about an entertaining sport.

Not that I find it entertaining watching other people play sports.

But millions do, and millions will pay to do so.

More fool them I say.

Evolution is the development of matter from start to finish.

Darwin was only concerned with one bit.

But, out of species evolved intellect, science and unscientific pseudo hypotheses, namely theism.

And out of science came real answers.

And out of intellect and science evolved technology.

And so on.

Refer to this process as GOD if you like.

But someone who fucks a virgin and gets her pregnant is a philanderer or a rapist.

So if you want to worship a rapist. Well, that's your choice.

Yep, snuggling up to sheep is a Welsh thing.

But let's make it clear I only live here.

Wasn't born and raised here.

Mrs Zed is snuggly enough for me.

That was probably Constable Jones shining the light.

And how bleak do winters get in Bethlehem?

We won the Falklands Cup.

Give or take 3978 according to Bro D.

We won the Falklands.

F**k the World Cup.

Now hang on Bro.

Wasn't Jesus born 2022 years ago on Christmas day in a manger?

I'm going to his party next week.

I've got a sweater with reindeer on and a Santa hat, like what they wore in Bethlehem.

Racism is because perceivable difference is.

It's the nature of variety,

And therefore not a problem,

But a fact of life.

Intolerance is the stumbling block.

Doesn't matter what the difference is.

Exactly.

If you spelled McDonald's like that you would fail the interview.

A cravat?

Ugly is fine if you have plenty of dosh.

Chastise them for their foolishness.

Or yes, probably best to walk away and ignore.

For me atheism is simply that.

No fixed fantasy beliefs and therefore no associated ritualism and paraphernalia.

Whereas theism generally comes with loads of stupid baggage.

Best just to be inquisitive about what we don't know.

Rather than making up stupid fanciful explanations.

Gay is a socio-psychologically derived phenomena, relative to the enjoyment of certain recreational sex behaviour.

Any one can do it, but some would rather not.

Though it doesn't matter how one satisfies one's reproductive sexual urges, the outcome is always the same.

Or should I say out-cum.

Tissues at the ready.

Or lick and swallow.

And then wash it down with a coffee and a biscuit.

And relax.

Until the next time.

What ever floats one's boat in a liberal society.

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Creative event followed by a lengthy process of material evolution.

Sort of designed, in so much as, how things happen is how things will happen.

Creative event may require an initiator.

But the initiator is extremely unlikely to have been the Dad of a Middle Eastern Bloke.

Or any other similar archaic metaphor, for that matter.

I imagine that over the next few millennia the species will become less white and less black.

Though skin tone will depend upon the dominance of specific genes.

Just as other genetic influences will dictate how we move forwards intellectually.

If material evolution is to progress, and I assume that it will, then intellectual dominance will continue to be the overriding necessity.

So eventually if and when homo-sapiens manages to escape this Earthly prison.

I'm guessing it might have a swarthy look about it, probably with Asian influences.

Not like the USS Enterprise, with a macho "White" guy at the helm and Scotty in the engine room.

Though Bones certainly had a look about him.

In between now and then?

All sorts of shit I would imagine.

Thanks for taking the time.

I know versions of both verses, they were two mainstay pieces of my formative C of E education.

And like a lot of biblical stuff, one can see both logic and hypothetical necessity in both.

I personally don't admire devout people, though I'm certainly tolerant of their behaviour.

After all, they have been conditioned to be devout, just as I have been conditioned otherwise.

I think the big difference is that devout people have been conditioned with a tendency to be less tolerant of atheism.

As ever, everything boils down to the acquisition, storage and utilisation of stored data.

Which for sure, is an amazing organic process and function.

All those electro-chemical signals zipping about inside our brains doing remembering and thinking stuff, as well as keeping the mainframe going.

Yep, we're amazing bits of kit for sure.

Gushing people make celebrities.

Without gushers, celebs wouldn't be celebs.

Sycophancy is an inbuilt human trait.

We're all just eking out the time between birth and death.

Doing stuff.

And everything that we do might be completely futile.

And there again, it might not.

So, best keep doing it just to be on the safe side.

Book-keepers and Accountants are calculators.

Who will undoubtedly use some sort of calculating device.

To be honest, I neither like nor dislike Bibles.

They're generally just inert books on a shelf somewhere.

But please quote me a piece of biblical poetry.

I genuinely like poetry.

I'll take your word for it.

White losers,

Black losers,

Brown losers,

Swarthy losers,

Ruddy losers,

Life,

Death,

And so on.

Don't blame yourself,

Always blame the other guy.

Trouble is, we have this overriding system of social control known as money.

And society has to be controlled because people are fundamentally selfish individuals, that tend to cluster into selfish groups.

We're not bees that will work for the greater good of the greater society.

So we have the resources and intellectual ability, but lack the collective will.

The downside of intellect I suppose.

The Queens would be the trump cards.

Do you think that people just turned up on the West African coast, so that Whitey could ship them abroad?

And anyway people aren't interested in apologies, it's just cash and power that they're really after.

Life is an electro-chemical reaction evolved from fundamental universal properties.

The bigger question is why the existence of fundamental universal properties.

A. Something from nothing.

B. Always something.

Neither seems feasible.

And both improbabilities would apply to a God.

So, by asking how did life come about, you're starting in the middle of a process, moving forwards and taking the back story for granted.

Probably just basing the back story on a 2000 year old pseudo-hypothetical folk tale.

Yep, sounds good.

Will check out some more when I get a moment.

Yep, nothing to scratch.

Has meds for it when it gets unbearable.

And yep, computer and brain have a lot in common.

Brain is a computer I suppose, with attachments

Albeit an organic computer, with organic attachments.

How long before we add inorganic attachments to the organic computer?

Maybe we already have peripheral attachments/devices that influence us more than we realise.

So how long before theses become installed into the mainframe?

Not long me thinks.

Off to bed.

Night Night sleep tight.

Don't have nightmares.

New to me.

Will check him out.

There's a 53rd called a wassamagoolie.

It has 10 penises and 17 vaginas,

And a clitoris up it's arse.

And a fourth reproductive organ that makes no sense whatsoever.

It's name is Daphne and it typically lacks pronouns.

It is also highly intelligent,

Covering it's head and neck with tattoos.

And influencing gullible people on social media.

If seen, approach with caution,

As it has a tendency to multiple orgasm.

Now, wouldn't that be a sticky end.

Yep, I've go a client who lost a leg and he suffers from an itchy foot.

How weird is that?

Here Here.

Hymns not hers or its.

No HRT or tits.

Or cut off dangly bits.

Snakes and Ladders.

Yep, nail head hit Stephen.

Exaggerated tales from the Middle east.

Here's wishing you and yours a happy Winter Festival/Seasons Greetings/Not Christmas.

We sense, light waves, sound waves, smells etc.

And we make an internal electro-chemical assessment,

Which we project or simulate internally as imagery.

Therefore we only assume that what we see is what we see/ hear/ smell etc.

Though our ability to manipulate does give weight to our assumptions.

But even then we are completely reliant upon internal imagery.

So if you read this post, you will not actually be viewing it on a computer screen, but as an internally projected/simulated image of a computer screen.

King Crimson.....Belew, Bruford, Fripp and Levin....Prog Rock at it's best.

Larks tongues in aspic.

Waiting man.

And flush God down the pan.

How would we behave if we were billionaires?

What would jealous people think of us if we were billionaires?