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How about producing less people?

More abortion less child poverty.

Much more sensible approach.

Eternally existent, side steps the impossible beginning.

Of course, a beginning cannot have a cause because the cause requires a cause.

Notions such as finite occupied space and externally existent are simple.

And ego is as ego does.

Nonetheless, a happy new year.

One more or one less trip around the Sun, depending upon how one chooses to look at it.

All bullshit written by people who thought they were important.

1. No

2. No

One could certainly contemplate that.

But one could also ask the same simple question of that.

Something from nothing?

The slippery slope of AI dependency.

Though I assume that's the way things are meant to evolve.

People will soon need an app to wipe their arses.

I've been asking that question for years.

One can explain the perpetual regeneration of matter, but the beginning is impossible to explain.

Stupid shit is green with pink spots.

The  end was already triggered at the beginning.

Might not be tomorrow though.

Are you taking the p**s.

Or just having a daft laugh.

Happy 2023

I hope you find what you're looking for.

Don't you mean gorging and drinking oneself senseless and watching endless crap on TV day.

Any tea?

You can choose to do whatever you want to do.

Just as you could choose to do whatever you don't want to do.

There are no facts. Either for or against a GODDO.

Middle Eastern Folk Myths do not prove a super-natural being.

Just places and people and a naive universal creation theory.

A. As we all know Stephen, the GOD of the bible is an internal electro-chemical response to a sensory stimulus.

    Same as every other thought process and consequent output or physical action.

Though it does seem that at times, certain physical output or self destruction can be involuntary. That is to say, not preceded by, or necessitating a thought.

I digress.

Nonetheless, God of the bible is undoubtedly always an internal electro-chemical action/reaction.

Which is not to say, that externally there isn't a GODDO type thing.

But because we are always reliant upon A. It's impossible to know exactly what's going on out there.

As everything is an internally projected simulation.

Yep, two logical theories.

Or you can just pop down to your local church on a Sunday morning and listen to a deluded nut job tell you what a bad boy you've been.

Choices Choices.

Nope, but Presidents do.

Bro D is good fun.

I don't think that you quite get him.

Poly is also good fun.

Wanting to ban people when you can simply ignore them, is a sign of insecurity.

Nope, diplomatic means being eloquent and cleverer that the other guy.

Showing anxiety by being disparaging is a sign of weakness.

Life is short, so have fun, then roll over and go to sleep, until the next time.

It's about time those story books of yours were recycled and turned into toilet tissue.

Too hypothetical.

Fair enough.

 Their is certainly one big downside to life. 

You were brought into the world.

So do you think that you are an unethical product?

#52.

Friendly advice.

Don't let yourself down with posts like the above, by behaving contrary to what you say.

You need to remain  impartial, unemotional and diplomatic in such circumstances.

Are you a Christian a Catholic or what?

Nonetheless, data conditioning establishes a database, and people function accordingly.

So GOD data is significant to you and irrelevant for me.

We may modify our points of view over time, but not greatly.

A tendency to feel anxious relative to how we process data, is just another example of a conditioned response. (With possibly a touch of genetically inherited behaviour thrown in too. Though a separate issue).

But I think that it's fair to say that religion based angst is acquired postnatally. Considering that Christianity is basically a 2000 year old  folk tale that people teach to their kids.

Let's face it, people get hung up over all sorts of stupid stuff.

The perpetrators are long since dead, so not forgiving them is more than a tad futile.

And similarly, British is as British does, an amalgamation of various Europeans and beyond, established in the 1700's.

And for centuries, previous inhabitants of the Islands of Britain were enslaved and massacred by various invaders/settlers.

Stuff happened/happens, as I said.

And you choose to focus on one point of North American history, where "The British" and various other European amalgamations, such as the French and the Spanish invaded/settled and supressed previous settlers.

And so the United States of America was established, and therefore the current plight of these previous settlers is no longer the remit of the latter day amalgamated British.

And if you've visited Britain recently you would have noticed that the latter day British are an eclectic mix, far removed from the 1700's.

I'm not sure that guns in the U.S. need fuelling.

You have an evolved gun culture, that fuels itself.

400000000 and counting.

You probably internally discriminate as much as everyone else does.

Though you may not be outwardly intolerant.

Racism is a misused epithet.

Nope, I mean moderates.

Thinkers with no political affiliation.

As opposed to non-thinkers, who just stick a cross on a ballot paper in the usual box.

I'm not sure what you mean.

But belief is an odd concept at the best of times.

Please clarify.

Hmmmmmm.

Seems that one needs to be surviving in a hot dry uncontaminated environment, with and abundance of dryable foodstuff, preferably with the electricity still switched on.

Which doesn't strike me as too bad a survival situation.

Of course, an uncontaminated water supply would also be helpful.

And...........

We await chapter 2 with baited breath.

You do have 3 political groups.

Dyed in the wool Republicans.

Dyed in the wool Democrats.

Moderates. People who actually think about what they are voting for. Rather than just gormless flag waving.

Given that millions of  people label as both Christian and LGBTQ, and that most loosely labelled Christians probably couldn't give a toss.

Then clearly, hatred is only really the remit of a certain minority hard-line Christian faction.

Christian bullies if you like, who think that they know better than everyone else. And that everyone else should do as they say.

Sort of typically how things occur socio-politically.

Material evolution is progressive by definition, and everything that occurs falls within the remit of progressive materialism/evolution. 

So Darwin, primarily studied the organic bit, but material progression starts way before the organic and may well exceed the organic. 

Modern popular religion only popped up a few thousand years ago, relative to the development of hominid cognition, and is based upon the typical concept of an unknowable force that governs humanity and it's environment. A concept borne of an evolving/progressive intellect, albeit naive by modern standards.

So in that respect deism is theoretical, albeit naive by modern standards, but primarily based upon a fantastical assumption.

A fantastical assumption by definition cannot be subjected to real scientific scrutiny.

And no, a GOD didn't rape a virgin. If anyone did impregnate a virgin named Mary, it certainly wasn't a fantasy GOD. It was more likely to be the human philanderer.

And the product of that relationship spent his life promoting the ancient Hebrew fantasy GOD concept. Promoting himself as the son of that GOD, which in that hypothetical context  is not an absurd suggestion.

Eventually falling foul of the governing authority though, paying heavily for his insurrection.

Perfect martyr material for the oppressed people of Roman occupied "Holy Land". And so it's therefore no wonder that succeeding literature was correspondingly exaggerated.

Though give them their due, the Romans clearly decided that Mary was a cracker. Just like the philanderer did.

The heart is a lump of muscle that pumps blood.

And theists don't start with false assumptions and draw false conclusions? Pull the other one.

And Gods aren't deceptive, because they're make believe. People are deceptive.

And you've largely ignored answers to the OP.

Which might suggest that you are being deceptive.

And science starts with evidence and seeks to understand, proposing, testing and rejecting theories along the way. Science is all about the burden of proof.

Whereas Christianity accepts Middle Eastern Folk Tales as undeniable fact without question. So for sure, the burden of proof isn't burdensome if you completely ignore the burden.

Conditioned ignorance is bliss I suppose.

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Sort of vertically challenging the horizontal establishment.

Vote RM.

Science in it's purest form has existed ever since the first hominid had an idea.

Stuff happens BigBuffMan.

It's now, now, and what is, is.

And stuff will continue to happen and become stuff that happened.

And indigenes are only settlers, relative to a cherrypicked moment in time.

And then others came and settled.

And people continue to come and settle.

We are either one species or not.

And demarcation lines on maps are just that.

Yearning for the good old days is futile.

How about an entertaining sport.

Not that I find it entertaining watching other people play sports.

But millions do, and millions will pay to do so.

More fool them I say.

Evolution is the development of matter from start to finish.

Darwin was only concerned with one bit.

But, out of species evolved intellect, science and unscientific pseudo hypotheses, namely theism.

And out of science came real answers.

And out of intellect and science evolved technology.

And so on.

Refer to this process as GOD if you like.

But someone who fucks a virgin and gets her pregnant is a philanderer or a rapist.

So if you want to worship a rapist. Well, that's your choice.

Yep, snuggling up to sheep is a Welsh thing.

But let's make it clear I only live here.

Wasn't born and raised here.

Mrs Zed is snuggly enough for me.

That was probably Constable Jones shining the light.

And how bleak do winters get in Bethlehem?

We won the Falklands Cup.

Give or take 3978 according to Bro D.

We won the Falklands.

F**k the World Cup.

Now hang on Bro.

Wasn't Jesus born 2022 years ago on Christmas day in a manger?

I'm going to his party next week.

I've got a sweater with reindeer on and a Santa hat, like what they wore in Bethlehem.

Racism is because perceivable difference is.

It's the nature of variety,

And therefore not a problem,

But a fact of life.

Intolerance is the stumbling block.

Doesn't matter what the difference is.

Exactly.