zedvictor4

See above.

Exploded Sun probably in approx 5 billion years.

Do you think that we will have managed to escape?

Perhaps as frozen embryos on board an inter-galactic fridge.

Overseen by A.I. (Another intelligence)

Will we be able to trust A.I.

Will it deem us necessary.

As for your other dilemmas all that I can say is, that we only care because we can and do.

Otherwise, thoughtlessness.

And how would material evolution progress to a meaningful end without thoughtfulness?

It is impossible for a society to tolerant if it is continually instructed in the ideology of inequality and difference.

Well, all that I can add is:

Morality is a variable concept.

Happiness cannot be forced.

And contentment is bliss.

And I'm not sure that contentment can be found in a State of fear.

Cleaning the campsite.

Is that metaphorical?

If the Earth was ridded of humanity, do you think that it would ever completely clean itself of every scrap of human detritus.

Or do you think that our legacy would exist until the end of the Earth.

But if everything is pointless any way.

Nonetheless, material evolution seems to be headed somewhere.

It might not matter if we're not along for the whole ride.

Perhaps our memories might be.

We rarely see anarchy if at all.

Though there are two different styles of authoritative government.

One uses force and oppression, and the other has the capability to use force but doesn't see the need to oppress its populace.

Do you think that there is anyone in North Korea who isn't wary of everyone.

Isn't North Korea a State of suspicion and fear for everyone, including Kim.

That is why the most important group within an electorate are the silent moderates.

Right and left like to make all the noise.

There's communism and then there's authoritarianism.

And they're not quite the same.

If communism was actually a workable system, it would be utopic.

But it's not.

I honestly have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

Yep, very trumpster.

@Poly.

Some might suggest that you have a bit of a theism bias.

My ranting is no more constant than your constant ranting.

In fact, I would suggest that neither of us rants constantly.

But if you're that sensitive, I would further suggest not making partisan comments in a political forum.

No ad-homs, yankee.

I'm genuinely uncertain.

Sometimes you're shrewd and sometimes you're trumpster.

Moderate Republican perhaps.

Get up, do stuff, go to bed.

Luckily, I can still do that without fear.

Recession is just a concept relative to over expectation and under appreciation.

Though I can never quite tell if you are a shrewd analyst or just another hung up Trumpster.

Regards as ever.

Zed.

@Poly.

"Being spiritual".

Yep, spot on Poly.

Anyone can do spiritual.

To coin a brilliant phrase,

Spiritual is as spiritual does.

Doesn't necessarily require magical mystery folk from magical mystery land.

And,

"Wasting time on nothing that means nothing".

Brilliant phrase too,

Though as yet,

I haven't quite got my head round that one. 

"Sad existence".

Futile existence maybe.

Or maybe not.

Data currently not available.

Only temporary assumptions.

@Tarik

All responses are electro chemical assessments and output of data. 

As was rightly stated, just a function of the human mass.

A remarkable organic data processing system for sure, but that's just what it is.

As far as we know.

As far as we know, morality and nihilism etc are just electro chemically derived concepts.

As is a concept.

Such systems and their machinations might or might not ultimately be purposeful.

But there's no way of knowing, as the relative data is currently unavailable.

Though every mass that functions has its own functioning purpose, so absolute nihilism is therefore impossible even if that purpose is self-destruction.

@Poly.

Get some sleep Poly.

All that frolicking under the full moon is catching up with you.

Yep, so the story goes.

Killed then died,

Then revived.

Space people equipped,

With,

Adrenalin,

And a de-fib.

Beam him up Scotty.

I agree.

The "Bible" is a compilation of Middle Eastern folk tales, stories and fantasy from approximately 2000 years ago. In short, a myth.

Most is second hand account, interpretation and reinterpretation ranging in date from a few years after the supposed life of Jesus, to many hundreds of years later.

The King James version wasn't compiled until 1611.

Well, I don't believe in anything. Things are either knowable or not.

Is my wife asleep in bed? Well, I assume that she is, but I can't be certain as I currently have no way of knowing.

 And GOD is widely used to represent an idea of creation and universe.

And an idea is nothing more than an electro-chemical reaction.

So, do you think that a universe has a greater purpose other than itself?

Yum Yum.

The way to defeat others you think are stupid is to ignore them and be content with your own thoughts.

Did Novice Pass Oromagi?

Roasted potato wedges, particularly nice with a spicy coating and served with cuddles.

Though cuddles are nice anyway and shouldn't be regarded as a fetishism.

Why quit?

Your input is valid no matter how casually you use the site.

Well, if we consider the Universe as simply:

1. The creation of all matter and energy within a system.

2. The evolutionary development of all matter within system 1, in accordance with the laws of physics.

     2a. Including the development of organic matter, the development of intelligence and the ability to manipulate matter.

3. The eventual collapse of the system.

Now, if this was the be all and end all of a Universe then ultimately everything would have been pointless.

So, I propose that the purpose of all universal processes is the creation of a new Universe and so on ad infinitum. But then, what is the point of that?

But of course, how did it all start.

Well, that's another question,

Was there a point to it all in the first place?

And just for fun, I further propose that the moment of universal death and rebirth might rely upon a GOD law or principle.

Certain in the resurrection and all that stuff.

Does that make any sense?

It's not really that simple.

As 53000 Vietnam combatants would tell you if they could.

Well, perhaps a warrior is an experienced soldier that enjoys the job.

Whereas most soldiers would rather be at home doing something else.

Nonetheless all are just pawns in the human social game.

Occasionally one or two might ascend the social ranks

What do I mean.

Inherent survival mechanisms.

Purpose:

As in the sequential perpetuation of a material universe/s

Though I find it hard to see that the perpetuation of such processes has any greater significance than the perpetuation of matter. Which in itself is seemingly pointless.

Soldiers are the pawns of the system.

I don't know you so I would not make such a judgement.

Though religions are basically systems of social control.

I have been described as nihilistic.

Basically, because I suggest that everything may be purposeless.

But I always counter that sentiment with but of course everything may be purposeful.

Nonetheless, I also think that all species are instilled with the purpose of existence and everything that the purpose of existence might entail.

Deciding if something is wrong or not is the moral dilemma.

What has the universal authority to apply a universal standard of wrongness or rightness to an individual human's processes.

Collective human decisions are ambiguous, because we will apply morality variably relative to varying contexts.

Therefore, we should also expect variability of individual thought.

What this says is that there are always people who will try and dictate what others should do.

How would you define nihilism?

I'm assuming that Vici's is fake too.

And I also assume that someone as erudite as yourself realised that I was not being serious.

Perhaps video sex games would be better.

But interestingly video sex games are far more distasteful than violent video games.

Even though we are all the outcome of sexual activity.

Why's that?

So, not resolved then.

Though I'm not sure that the GOD concept is even a question.

Probably got better things to do.

Well, another political opinion, from a Democratic Republican.

Designed to goad and elicit a response from other Democratic Republicans

That's assuming you are all Democratic Republicans and not fascists or anarchists.

Though such arguments do tend to focus upon the machinations of U.S. style democratic republicanism.

Political Tinseltown if you like.

What does this mean?

Or a more accurate question would be, what are you asking?

The above narrative doesn't really explain anything.

Feminism is quite definitively specific and therefore is what it is within a wider social context. As a stand-alone ideology there is nothing to falsify.

Yep, I get that.

I find mental contentment through physical exercise. The more tired I am, the more relaxed my mind becomes.

Cycling and long walks, not obsessively but perhaps more than a lot of people.

No good if one dislikes exercise I suppose. Though it's like you and your breathing techniques, if one is going to try and improve one's wellbeing then one will also need to make an effort to do so.

Exercising the brain is also necessary to keep oneself mentally sharp. But certainly not morbid overthinking or continual social media bombardment.

I would suggest that social media dependency can result in over-expectation, consequent disappointment and depressive negativity.

Debateart is good compositional exercise, which I do when I have a spare moment or two.

For sure.

I just toss random thoughts about on a wet Sunday morning.

And yep, with no sense or certainty of positive outcomes, especially regarding the organic beast that is homo sapiens.

Though I do think that if material evolution has a purpose, then A.I. is probably the way things will go.

Is it possible to exist without thinking?

Or more accurately is it possible to be self-sustaining without thinking.

Like RM suggested, I think that physical and mental relaxation and contentment can be achieved without the need for deliberate effort. Walking is good.

Deliberate effort by definition would seem to be counterproductive. 

Many years ago, I did dally in Buddhists retreats and being the type of thinker that I am, I readily concluded that it was just about substituting one regime of physical and mental effort for another.

I think that most people do it to look cool within their peer group.

Which is not to say that achieving coolness within their peer group did not afford them a certain amount of physical and mental satisfaction.

Horses for courses I suppose.

Though most Western non-conditioned Buddhists will eventually fall into a typically Western style of materialism, it's just that they will tend to decorate their lives with reference to more youthful dalliances.

Oh.

It was just that you were both born on the 1st of January 1930.

Mods are only human.

For sure.

My advice to Roman Catholics is:

Fashioning sex toys out of soft wood is fraught with dangers.

You will need to choose a close-grained hardwood and apply plenty of wax.

Synthetic models are available but don't have the same eco-credentials as wood and beeswax.

This is based upon the assumption, that since the outlawing of altar boy's there will be a greater demand for personal stimulation.

A nice length of 4 x 4 is perfect for fencing and some construction applications.

Or did you mean a Mitsubishi.

Sound advice.

Was I correct?