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No one believes that the Earth is flat as everyone knows that the Earth is spherical.

Though some people like to say that they believe the Earth is flat.

And I'm all for freedom of speech.

Flat Earth basically relies upon an infinite conspiracy theory.

Though who or what initially conspired with who or what would be difficult to say.

Trouble is debating is decided by a whimsical decision-making process (voting).

Rather than a definitive point scoring system.

So, it is impossible to know who the best debater actually is.

For sure.

But healthcare is just another business that exacerbates the problem of over-population. 

Keeping millions more humans alive beyond the limits of their usefulness.

Thereby putting ever more demand on environment and global resources.

Money first as ever.

Such is your inability to read.

For sure.

So can you confirm that you are indeed a Female, French Canadian Catholic of the species Homo sapiens.

Hmmmmmmm. What does that mean?

Nope.

God possibly,

And logic is,

Either logical or not.

Invoke is a verb,

And God is a concept,

Relative to the unknowable.

Though logically or illogically,

God is unlikely to be,

An eternally existent,

Floaty about bloke,

Who fucks,

Virgins.

I have no people.

What do you mean?

I currently have about 8 billion.

Judged by whom?

And eternal nothingness for sure,

Same as the 8 billion mentioned above.

And please don't waste your time,

Pitying me.

I do just fine,

And why would I wish to change my established database,

That does just fine too.

And I believe nothing,

Accept facts,

And hypothesise about hypotheticals.

And wherein lies the angst within this discourse.

Well,

The only I angst I detect,

Oozes out of bmdrocks21.

Have a nice day y'all.

I only said perhaps.

Deracinated and hedonistic for sure.

I moved to Wales with my wife of 38 years.

And who are my people other than earthlings.

And who are my ilk other than earthlings.

And I'll take edgy atheist as a compliment.

Degenerate is an assumption relative to conditioning.

You fall into one of three camps on the issue of assumptive degeneracy.

Such is life, and such is old men fiddling with little boys' dicks.

Thing is though, there is no greater moral authority capable of settling the issue.

Or if there is, they seem reluctant to do so.

So perhaps they fall into the not bothered camp.

Well, Charles Spurgeon was proved wrong, as the defence of the Lion has become a necessary part of its survival strategy.

Just as the defence of the Jesus/God concept ensures its survival as a fantasy creation hypothesis.

Charles and I enjoy being analogical.

If there is a purpose to everything.

Then slavery is a factor of that process.

Younger generations are now slaves to technology, and the majority just accept this.

Slavery is/was just a necessity relative to human development.

Or everything is completely pointless, and nothing really matters anyway.

Perhaps the asteroid is already on its way.

Isn't it just a case of people thinking about stuff unnecessarily.

Though if we didn't have the power to think about stuff, we wouldn't have invented slavery or the smartphone.

But we did.

And so?

Perhaps I'm a clever rabbit.

I'm an apple crumble man that likes riding a bike.

You're welcome.

I always enjoy reading your words, which seem to just tumble out of your head.

Exactly.

How one thinks and how one is conditioned to think.

No one is white.

Yassinie will have prejudices based upon historical data, theological ideology and physical anthropology.

Pretty typically human.

Reinterpreting scripture is some peoples stop-gap.

Others bake cakes or do yoga.

Or bake cakes and do yoga.

I do various stuff and eat cakes.

And from time to time.

I interrupt interpretation proceedings.

As you do.

And then off to make a cup of tea.

What's your tipple?

Did Jews gas themselves?

Or were they pushed?

To fill people's insubstantial lives.

Not so much hunter gathering to be done these days.

Gotta be somewhere doing something.

A kid can only spend so much time masturbating.

King Put's got the right idea.

Give them an old gun and a cammo outfit and send them out west.

That will concentrate their minds.

The future is bright the future is swarthy and bearded.

And I won't care because I will be dead.

Though swarthy has its own self-destruct mechanisms.

And wailing atop a tower is what it is.

Until such times when the Earth is engulfed by the Sun.

Though one must consider Chinese/Asian types.

Who knows what intergalactic colonists will look like.

Will they still be wailing to the non-existent bloke in the sky.

Random thoughts.

10000 years or not.

You don't seem very sure.

Was the World Trade centre a personal experience or your personal experience of a disaster movie.

I don't doubt the veracity of actual footage from Auschwitz Birkenau, but my stored images do not allow me the same intensity of emotion as a survivor's memory does.

The difference between first-hand and second-hand is quite considerable.

Diluted by time, Auschwitz Birkenau will become a temporarily emotive experience. And then move on to the next history lesson or maths and then home to dinner and Call of Duty.

And sorry, for some reason I thought you were Aussie.

You are a non-standard American Darter....Very thoughtful.

I didn't say that they did.

Nonetheless they are related.

As I said.

Such is human expectation.

Yep, there was Adam and Eve and then Cain and Abel and Awan and a trillion others because Adam and Eve were at it well into their middle age which was somewhere around 3 to 5 hundred years.  All very logical

And of course, Cain could only fuck his sister because there was no other choice. And they buggered of to Nod and founded a city. Yep, fast workers all very logical.

And that's only the start of it.

As I stated, you are left with nothing but jibing.

Are you ethang5?

We can argue semantics and definition relating to memory, but nonetheless there is a definite distinction to be made between a first-hand experience and a second-hand account.

Personal experience and a history lesson.

So, relative to our discourse, I would regard a memory as data acquired through personal experience rather than just data acquired from a second-hand narrative source.

As such, you will have no actual memories of WW2, and 77years on there will be few people with actual first-hand memories. Give it another 25 years or so and all memories of WW2 will be extinct.

Give it another 50 years and WW2 will only be a history lesson, and in another 100 years it will be largely forgotten. Just as WW1 now only stirs a few emotions, once a year in November.

So, by "soon" I don't mean tomorrow. But in terms of generations and recorded history "soon" doesn't take long to come around.

And as I also tried to point out, the teaching, acquiring and storing of data is a selective process. So, WW2 is big in your database, but what about the Australian Aboriginal massacres I alluded to. How much emphasis do you place on those in your thoughts? How much emphasis was placed on them in your education?

I didn't say that they did.

Nope, that's just your opinion. That some people share with you and some people don't share with you.

And accusations of trolling and gaslighting, tell me that you've lost this particular argument.

Covid is as covid does and like influenza was/is potentially dangerous.

A hastily put together global vaccination programme has manged to significantly curtail the serious effects of the virus.

Of course, teens can show off from their position of comparatively lower risk and diminished responsibility. As they have always done.

But just be thankful that some people went to university and paid attention in virology classes.

Nope, just proving that there are two sides to every argument, neither of which is necessarily right nor wrong.

Though some people intolerantly assume self-righteousness and invent problems.

Stop obsessing about other people's life choices and concentrate on your own. 

Everything is relative within a Universe.

For example, the perverse paedophilic act of circumcision and X the dicktator.

Perhaps it's just your conditioned sensibilities that are no longer pertinent.

Maybe it would be better not to obsess about the personal necessities of others.

I would suggest that those who obsess the most about the sexuality of others, are perhaps the most perverse of thought.

Deb.

Pure logic Deb.

The book only records the second-hand tales of deluded men.

And sits quietly on the bookshelf, saying nothing and gathering dust.

Not really a logical reply is it?

You will undoubtedly have outgrown some.

As history goes back a very long way.

I had a direct link to WW2 through my father, though he died quite a while ago now.

He was there during the relief of Belsen concentration camp, but I cannot share the same memories of what he witnessed.

Only second-hand accounts, whereby the intensity of such memories is lost in one generation.

We've moved on through two or three generations since 1945, and Belsen concentration camp is now a largely forgotten bit of the bigger WW2 history lesson.

So, assuming that you are Aussie, do you still have nightmares about Callata Springs?

Would you even know what happened there without the help of Google?

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Not worthy of reply.

I would suggest that World View consists of intellectually evolved hominid understanding or misunderstanding of their universal predicament. Which I suppose in one way could be regarded as the essence of the species, but not really the essence of life.

I think that most people take the essence of life for granted. As opposed to the essence of a life.

So yes, the essence of a life might include adherence to a particular ritualised ideology.

Yep, brief reading immediately tells me that J of A is as vague a character as Josephus is. If not more so.

And accounts of both are certainly subject to latter mythical reinterpretations.

Didn't Indiana Jones get involved too?

Opinions are generally propositional and therefore not fact checkable as such.

Of course, if one intends to quote fact it's best to quote correctly.

Though if you're king Put or any counter propagandist, it's currently necessary to quote all sorts of inaccurate shit.

The essence of ideological theory perhaps.

Which never quite tallies with the realities of ideological practice.

For example, the ideological zealot will find enlightenment in cutting someone's head off.

Though I fail to see what any of this has to do with the "essence of life".

Yep, popular whingers will get votes removed.

And one is expected to write a dissertation, as if everyone has the time to do so.

Which is why I don't bother to vote.

And you just sank to the depths of stupidity and jibing.

Which diminishes the credibility that I once openly supported.

There are rather a lot of Whitey Jews.

And the whitey Jew treats the swarthy Palestinian barbarically.

As the swarthy Palestinian will treat the Jew barbarically.

And ask the people of Rwanda if Blacky cannot also be barbaric.

No mystery.

Time and generations pass, and the effects of tragedy will diminish.

We might be taught the history lesson from time to time, but a minute later or a day later we will have moved on to the next bit of data recall without shedding a tear.

Generations are already outgrowing WW2.

Yep, we have reached an agreement.

Yep, all good.

And I differentiate between base instinct and acquired behaviour.

And sexual attraction at base level is a separate issue to physical attraction at a socio-conceptual level

The stag fucks every doe irrespective of looks, and without the need for overthink.

And indiscriminate sex is more relative to the human condition than it is to most other species.

Indiscriminate sex is the outcome of overthink rather than the outcome of base physiology.

That is to say that humans have developed the practice of copulating when it not necessary to do so.

Recreational sex as it were.