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Doubtless he Hugo be,

Said the sad blind man,

To the vampire.

Sex the constant,

All consuming,

Tick Tick Tick,

Hormonal drip.

And how the fuck,

Do things go so wrong,

Protein enriched,

Destroyer of bone.

To know,

The seeded imperfect transfer,

Just biding it's time,

Tick Tick Tick,

Doomsday clock hidden.

And such a minor thing,

Becomes,

The all consuming,

Harbinger of destiny.

So rewind not,

The doomsday clock,

Dear Jaisha love,

Tick,

Tick,

Tick,

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62.

Windows up all the time here Deb.

This is Wales.

We just need to acclimatise.

Take up walking on hot coals and fire eating, and move on from there.

Well done Ken.

Looking good for 85, albeit a tad surgically enhanced.

Let's hope that with all that dosh, you can secure immortality for yourself and the lovely Gloria.

No.

Giraffe body experiences are intense to say the least.

20 foot necks are truly something.

I had one the other day when I temporarily died....(Experience not a 20 foot neck)

And when I returned from the afterlife I related to my NDE councillor an overwhelming feeling of my testicles dangling in outer space.

As true as I am sitting here....And it would clearly be irrational to suggest that I had been anything other than sober at the time.

Does that ever happen to you when you have extra-mammalian experiences.....EME's for short.

Must be common in the outback.

Yep.

I was wondering if Mr U Dog had taken the religious side of things into consideration with their One Nation proposal.

I'm guessing that this One Nation thing is basically tyranny dressed up as a  good old light coloured American thing.

I might be wrong though....And freedom of expression for all Muslims might be hot on their list of priorities.....Chinese style of course.

Is an "Otter body" experience, that which a semi-aquatic mammal experiences?

Just needed to be clear on this.

Is it something like a Platypus body experience?

Though the Platypus body experience is somewhat freaky.

Half Duck, half kangaroo as it were.

But more Duck in terms of forwards propulsion.

#14

So I reiterate the question.

How is it possible to know what dead people are experiencing on a consistent basis?

I think what you are referring to is what is known has NDE......Whereby all information was actually derived from not dead people.

People who may have experienced an intense electro-chemical response to a total system failure. Which manifested as vivid, internal, self generated imagery.

Subsequently resuscitated, so not dead, and with a more or less accurate memory of the experience.

And given the human lack of ability to remember accurately the most recent of not near death events.....I would therefore suggest  that the recollection of near death imagery is more likely to be less accurate.

Call me sceptical and irrational if you like.

And as for an afterlife.....For sure.....If that's what rationally floats your boat.

Have you boys actually thought this one through?

Independent bodies,

Independently thinking,

Of themselves,

And then maybe about you, if it suits.

"Friend" is one of those very casual epithets.

I know what I think, so why would I expect others to be any different.

I, just like Sadolite, have acquaintances.

Sooooooo.

If out of body experiences are true.

If out of body experiences are not true.

If anything really.

Though:

If people had out of body experiences when they were dead, how would you know?

I often wonder why we don't attempt to utilise more, that which the Sun provides freely in amounts way beyond our actual needs.

Well, Nazism was Doc.

And what it became far exceeded it's beginnings.

Though nowadays we can repurpose the word to represent any nationalistic/isolationist/racially divisive mind set.

Ring any bells Doc.

Though not suggesting for one minute that you were ever a member of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

And for sure, Ukrainians were not held in high esteem after "WW2".

But some people learn, change and move forwards.

And some people learn, stay the same and continue to live in the past.

Such is human reliance on the transfer of old data.

Nicely composed again.

I haven't the time for a long winded sociological essay now.

Nonetheless, I would suggest that the above still seems to have an unwritten air of conditioned resentment within it.

But one cannot as yet gauge the true mindset of Thoth.

There weren't really World Wars previously.

That's just how things were recorded for Western Posterity.

There were some very big wars for sure, that sadly drew a lot of poor suckers in from around the globe......But chiefly centred around old European political  machinations......Just as we see today.....Europe and Russia still wallowing in the past.....The similarities between Vlad and Adolf's states of mind, are obvious.

And for sure, the Japs had their own little dig.

It all made for great patriotic films though.

Nicely composed.

More becoming that your conspiracy tittle tattle with Mr Sadolite.

Nonetheless...I also made other more pertinent points, that you chose to ignore.

A basic misunderstanding of science.

Science will either prove or disprove a theory.

Science will either forward understanding and knowledge, or it wont.

Lacking real scientific abilities and resenting other peoples expertise, just leads to rash supposition and ultimately to the unscientific, unproveable conspiracy theories, that are regularly put forward but never proved.

So you acquired Omicron after you were double vaccinated, and fortunately you only had mild symptoms....Good.

Same for a lot of people much older than you.

Maybe this is proof of the efficacy of the vaccination programme.

Maybe, just maybe, the ruling  elite weren't actually out to get you.

For sure.

Anything is possible in myth fantasy and legend.

Sort of the whole point of it.

Entertaining the mind, as it were.   

And the bible entertains us still.

And some people even believe that the bible is true.

Comedy too, it seems.

A new study shows, that real experts are experts because they have acquired expertise, often right, but never 100%.

We cannot expect 100% from anything except life and death.

Nonetheless expertise increases overall life expectancy and staves of death, in too many ways to list.

So vaccines might have a longer term detrimental effect....But you're probably living 20,30, 40, 50 years longer than you once would have anyway.

And so might a million things have along term detrimental effects.....Life being one of them for sure.

Crazy human shit hey?

You know that Chuddy only says these things to wind people up.

And if you allow yourself to be wound up, then Chuddy wins every time.

The best way to deal with people like Chuddy is to ignore them.

Unless they should actually say something sensible.....Then it would be rude to ignore.

Though it must be said, that Chuddy is infrequently sensible.

So what is GOD?...If not the typical picture bible representation that most theists are brought up with.

Made in GODS image as it were.

In your own words and keep it reasonably simple, preferable with out too many scriptural soundbites.....Can you do that?

Out Abbott Poet outbrought in laissez faire hand sad Paulus.

Tinker with and deal him a hand arm end over-reaching.

And the maggoty drip of fetid puss stench ejaculation.

Conscience, indifference he the teacher you the pupil endure his butter eye liquid drip.

More's the pity him not King Knight Table Rounded Arthur Merlin Man.

But bottle mad man pierced and painted bone headed endoscope visionary.

Older wiser him, the proud hum out loud anguish squeal penetration torn.

Buttressed and buttdressed bent the quivering wreck upon the rocks

Against the soft pillow hard grounded headache of his resourcefulness.

OH...Symbiotic co-joining end to end he laughs and comes the hot liquid of his breath

The dragon vampire man gainst the soft flexibility of youth say you brave Paulus

Paulus vodka boy, Jesus boy, vampire sucking boundless examination boy.

And lesson learned he said, taught lesson brain embedded erotic life enduring

All thoughts that glorious moment never more to better be Abbott Poet.

Dreams and handed mirror stressed splashes the conscience for ever.

So sad Paulus he the blind and deaf sauce enriched  lifetimes recurring  victim be

And the vampire man always sleeping mind corner coffin lain long since.

No silver bullet he, nor heart staked vanquishment of luscious memory.

Isn't life LARPING?

Don't we all wake from the Dream Matrix and start LARPING?

No......Probably wasn't riveting entertainment.

Neither is the Queens speech at Christmas.

Especially when you've got the chance to see Happy Feet for the millionth time.

Or Monsters Inc.

Now, I  do like Monsters Inc.

Can it all be done online?

I see an opening.........RUMBA

Rapid Unified Multi Belief Affiliation...

One click and you're in the lot.

And download a mutilated dick photo....MDP.....And you're as good as in the Jewish gang anyway.

$50 a pop.

So if we can corner just 10% of the market, that's 7.9 billion divided by 10, times 50......Errrrrrrr......You work it out.

You set up the website and sort out that side of things, and I'll oversee the operation from my Luxury Pad on the Med.....LUXPOM as it's sometimes referred to.

HEAVEN!......HERE WE CUM.

We do have the virgins on entry don't we?.....If you'll pardon the expression.

Though I often wonder where all the virgins come from.

Or do you think that it's actually all  a virtual reality sort of set up.

Sort off Simulated and Matrixial,.....S&M as it were.

Maybe GOD is in fact a Universal Computer System.....Formerly known as Joint Enterprise Services for the Unification of Souls

Latterly known as the, Multi Atheism Directorate.

Or MAD for short.

What do you think Deb?

Wouldn't it be great if all right wing extremists, eliminated all right wing extremists?

And left all the nice liberal people alone.

Do you think that you would survive?

If there is an actual GOD, I would expect it to be omni-sensible.....Rather than the one of whacky biblical stuff.

Though my only hedge betting, is that GOD might actually represent an inevitable evolutionary creation, process and finale.

So I'm not expecting a floaty about bloke to reappear any time soon.

And of course everything might just be pure chance.

And of course, neither you nor I actually have a clue....And neither did those that contrived the particular tale that you are hedging your bets on.

But if it makes you happy....Good.

And I'm happy too.

Well spotted.

Their, there and they're.

One constantly needs to be vigilant.

Well., where does one start.

Firstly, gone are the good old cheap oil sodden, days that you and I were born into....I won't elaborate further because that would be an essay in itself.

Requirements and aspirations have changed and become more complex and therefore more expensive., basically by virtue of evolution into a technological age.....Another essay.

All actually out of the hands of those that put themselves forward to manage.....But nonetheless you look for someone to blame for the difficulties we have created for our children......And by we, I mean the human species.

And your response to Biden's inert platitudes, is a string of inert platitudes...None of which will alter anything.

So replace Biden with someone who  actually has the ability to change the direction of the WORLD for the good of all, and you will have found yourself a magician.

And as I stated previously, The State of the Union Address, just isn't big entertainment here in the U.K.

Do you listen to the Queens speech at Christmas?......No, neither do I.

Though at least you have the sense to realise that the future was never going to be bright and Orange.

And the reality is that neither Blue nor Red is going to return you and yours to the good old freewheeling days of our youth.

You remember the good old days of Vietnam and the Cold War.

Explain mean tweets.

Cryptic.

Are you still on about your oil thing?

As I'm not sure how you can blame Old Joe for Vlad.

Vlad's the fault of his past unfortunately.

Probably more the fault of Raegan if you're really desperate to attribute  blame to a U.S. President.

Currently their is only one disaster and one despotic President capturing the Worlds attention.

I don't suppose that many people outside of the U.S.A. we remotely interested in the U.S. President yabbering on.

And more than likely your opinion is inherently biased anyway. So even if it was a brilliant speech you wouldn't dare to say so.

Whereas the daft Orange Clown probably had you drooling like the village idiot every time that he mentioned the word disinfectant.

Only joking.

But you know what I mean?

I would suggest that most countries have a similar mix of people..

Some who always care about others, a normally indifferent centre, and then some who don't give a toss.

I would further suggest that when the unjustified Russian invasion began, the normally indifferent centre rallied in support of Ukraine.

Leaving the careless tossers with their ongoing verbal diarrhoea issues.

Sadly, verbal diarrhoea is a global pandemic.

I doubt that any Nation will ever be fully immune.

Hey...It must be an age thing.

Regards.

I've never had any objections to theist presumptions.

I simply just disagree with theist presumptions.

More assumptions I suppose.

Is virtue signalling really worth caring about?

I support Ukraine as practically as I am able too.

Like loading boxes into my car and taking them to a collection point.

Which I couldn't have done if I had dumped all the gas.

Well, I've no idea where my particular tank of gas comes from, and furthermore, I wouldn't be so immediately impractical.

Though if oil supplies were to run low, I would put up with the consequences.

Practically speaking we have provided essential supplies  for Ukraine which should already be in Poland as we speak.

I think that it's all too easy to be flippant about what's going on in Ukraine, especially from positions of relative safety.

And on behalf of the Ukrainian people, a big thanks to the American people for the billions of dollars worth of military hardware.

Let's hope that the Ukrainian army gets the chance to use it effectively.

So you feel that you have the authority to speak on behalf of the people of Chile?

Exaggeration, misrepresentation and propaganda, parrot fashion.

Because it has always had an all consuming obsession with the sex lives of it's adherents and others.

As exemplified by your good self constantly going on about homosexuality and paedophilia. (Practices that have been proven to be rife within the R.C. church for centuries.). And always worrying about what other people do with their GOD given organs of pleasure.

This is undoubtedly an inherent data set, and therefore can rightly be described as inherently perverse.

Try Ornithology Doc.....It  might be a slightly less stressful hobby, and  stop you constantly thinking about people having sex.

One assumes, as I'm not sure that the process is yet possible, that internally the electro-chemical sequences that produces internal imagery will be able to be replicated externally, or down loaded from the brain to device. Sounds like science fiction, but probably not far away.

In essence no different to technological data transfer systems conversion of a digital sequence into a perceivable image. So the distinction would be the same as the distinction between digital processes and what is projected onto a monitor.

And one might also assume that the process will be reversible. Uploading data from device to brain, as both storable data and internally perceivable imagery.

If and when we do manage to achieve these processes, the mystery that is the human mind will have been unravelled.

But for now we can continue to wonder or not about a GOD.

A. Is there a floaty about bloke that does magic?

B. Is the universe purposeful or not?

C. Can we be sure of anything?

Questions Questions Questions Deb.

For sure.

Doc's data.

One of 7.9 billion separately contained bundles of varying data.

And like all good Catholics you ignore the controversies of the Church, and pretend that years and years of child abuse never happened.

Perhaps Catholicism is inherently perverted too.

Perhaps the human species is inherently perverted.

Though from that we can extend to the conclusion, that inherent perversion must be inherent normality.

And therefore I reiterate that best course of action, is the Catholic approach....Ignore and be content with yourself.

I agree that processes are seemingly one and the same. Call them thoughts, call them electro-chemical data processing.

So we can detect the process, can we project the image externally? 

I don't see why not.

Well, the argument that "atheism is irrational", is basically just a theistic dig at atheists.

Nonetheless, if we break the processes down to a base level of electro-chemical function, we can therefore question the rationality of all such processes, labelled  theistic or atheistic or anything I suppose.

Labelling outcomes wont alter the base reality of the argument. Which is, GODS are not actually known to be anything other than an internal electro-chemical process.

As of course, are NO GODS.

So one processes and produces outcomes relative to acquired and stored data. So management/control of such processes is therefore a facet of one and the same process and it's acquired parameters......Self control or not, as might be judged.

People are always dissatisfied.

Perhaps they always expect too much.

@Tarik

Such is the dilemma Tarik.

One cannot be certain of something  that one cannot be certain of.