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@sadolite
At any level.
You over-egged the custard there Mr S.
In essence a republic and a democracy can be regarded as one and the same.
Both are systems of government by the population, based upon the principle of elected representatives and leadership.
Of course, sometimes these labels and principles are inappropriately applied or subverted.
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@Reece101
An obtuse response if ever I read one.
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@TheUnderdog
Once again you have changed the original hypothesis and created your own......So let's forget about that.
And you like to think and say that you don't make discriminatory judgements......But you do......All the time.....It's a normal function.
And you're typically pigeonholing racism as a Black and White issue.....It could just as easily be a White and White issue or a Black and Black issue etc etc.
And in my line of work I meet people of all hues and sub cultures.....And although like you, I instantly make an internal discriminatory judgement.....I will always treat everyone with the same level of respect.
And it's good to know that you behave in the same way.
As for ideological persuasion....I prefer to be non-labelist.....But for the sake of this discussion, I would prefer to be regarded as a moderate realist.
And if anyone is professing liberalism here....It's you.
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@Athias
Qualia was your choice of word.....A bit of data output derived of human processes and function.......In the same way that meaning and spiritual are derived.
Qualia has a very simple definition which aptly exemplifies the process of data acquisition and management.
And for sure, quite an amazing process, but that's just the way things have evolved.
Reading more into it, is no more than the same process though.
In my opinion.
You will have your opinion.....Which in my opinion is also no more than the same process.
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@TheUnderdog
My hypothesis was specific......And I would strongly suggest that the young respectable white guy would naturally lean towards the white neighbourhood.
Your own social circumstances are not necessarily relevant to the hypothesis, as other considerations such as affordability and social conditioning would need to be considered.
And I would certainly consider the make up of my neighbours....As would you in a nanosecond, almost without thinking.....There's no avoiding obvious differences.
Racism as popularly defined, is not about perception but about subsequent behaviour relative to perception.
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@Reece101
Which specific sex culture is leading to transgenderism.
There is really only one culture....Human culture.
And obviously, all aspects of human evolution have given rise to todays culture...I'm not disputing that.
Though at a base level we are still the same basic organisms, which can only be split into three main groups relative to acquired sexuality...1. Male, sperm producer....2. Female, egg producer.......3. Non-Typical Dysfunctional.
My argument is, do transgenders actually belong in categories 1 and 2...... Or in category 3.
So if physical attributes dictate that a person is distinctly 1 or 2, then one can rightly question, wherein does the psychology of transgenderism arise.
Inherent data transfer or acquired data?
Maybe there are environmental implications?
I honestly don't now, and I also think that you don't know.....Perhaps you just toe a popular politically correct line?
What say you?
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@ebuc
They deny the necessity of the State, they deny the necessity of taxation.
No State, no taxation, and now only laws that suit them. (Any law is relevant to the State anyway, something of a contradiction there).
So what's the alternative?
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@Reece101
Yep as I continually state.
Apart from the rare physiological anomalies, everyone else falls into one of two categories.....Egg producer or sperm producer.
Modern definitions of gender have arisen from the human relationship and recreational sex culture.
Though 2% means that approximately 158.000.000 humans are intersex, which I would suggest is perhaps not accurate.
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@3RU7AL
Similar, but not quite the same definition as I just read.
An excessive adherence to the Law.
Which implies it's own set of moral principles and coherent values.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Everyone participates in a collective, no matter how remote one places oneself.
And I would suggest that you "involuntarily participate" when it doesn't suit you, and actively participate when it does suit you.
And taxation probably suits no one, but we all reap and expect the rewards of taxation.
Or are you another anarchic, hunter gathering hermit?
The State is a collection of people of which you are one.
Whether or not you choose to actively participate in the management of the State, is up to you.
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@TheUnderdog
You know the difference and you don't hate people for it.....Good....Me too.
Though I'm not sure if I hate anyone...Hate is a very powerful emotion, but the word hate is used very cheaply.
Most active racism is just a strongly conditioned aversion relative to perceivable difference.
I'm referring to a more passive, inherent form of racism and discrimination, that inevitably set's you apart from others that you perceive to be different.
So let's say that a young respectable "white" guy was offered a choice between two smart apartments, would he choose the one in the "white" neighbourhood, or the one in the Chinese neighbourhood.
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@RationalMadman
Is this a festering wound or something?
I expect that most members had forgotten that we actually had a President.
As for the pre-election social parody......History RM....History.
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@Dr.Franklin
By telling Father Ted and Bishop Len Brennan that they must be celibate.
As I stated, most practising Catholics are only practising Catholics when they are practising.
Of course some do take it very seriously.
Such is the variability of human nature, in it's response to institutional oppression.
Married practising Catholics have the most fulfilling sex lives.
Did you conduct a survey Doc?
Seems a bit Arbitrary to me.
Nonetheless.....I hope that you are well Doc.
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@Athias
Internal processes are meaning, but if you seek some secondary meaning, then internal processes can provide meaning....So refer to it as spiritual.
Internal processes are qualia, or provide qualia..
And your prerogative too, (if you're a pudding man).....One thinks therefore the pudding is.
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@TheUnderdog
I've never disagreed.
In the spirit of discussion I simply make observations and put them forward for discussion.
Such is Radical Socialism I suppose.
And the non-racist who doesn't care about African children, and who cares not about innocence if it isn't cost effective?
Dog eat Dog I suppose!
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@TheUnderdog
The very fact that we are having this discussion tells me that you perceive difference.
So you will therefore inevitably discriminate. (Think difference)
Though this does not mean to say that you will be disrespectful.
Black haired and blond haired, see how you discriminated there.....Quite interestingly I might add......I've never really thought of it as a hair issue.
And I've never mentioned fighting, as in physically fighting....Though I expect it does occur in isolated situations.
Nonetheless, the ongoing race argument is a fight of sorts.....Just depends upon how one chooses to define the word fight.
An inherent internal discriminatory process, is a part of our survival mechanism.
See.....Hug, fight or run....We usually make the decision in a nanosecond.
And the other guy with the darker/lighter sin and the blue hair does exactly the same.
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@3RU7AL
OK...So you are a non-voting, anarchic hermit.
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@Poly
Interestingly there is very little difference between regional Jews and regional Muslims.....Effectively the same people, just brainwashed with different guff.
And GOD the concept is a GOD or 7.9 billion GODS.....It makes no difference.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Life on Earth is theatre....And acting our parts provides us all with meaning.
But do you think that anything is watching?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
What is "The State"?
A lot of people around here often refer to "The State" as if it's something that they are completely separate from.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Meaning is relative to data acquisition, storage and management.....Cognition produces meaning.
Meaning is also transferred within inherited data....Instinct.
Nihilism is something of a theistic strawman word.
Murderers produce there own interpretation of meaning, as do thieves.
And communism is a philosophers pipe dream.
And the socio-political guff we readily bandy about here on dart is no more or less derived meaning within the same context.
Passes the time of day as it were.
To assume a greater purpose, is just that, and is no more or less derived meaning within the same context.
And as I will reiterate...Whether or not there is a greater purpose relative to life on Earth, no one knows.
To consider this conundrum, is as meaningful as anything else, despite what a theistic strawman might proclaim.
What say you.
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@3RU7AL
Usually says on the Birth Certificate.....Which is generally in the first place.
Why do we record things?
Because recording things is what sets us apart from every other species, allowing us to do all manner of stuff, whilst everything else just eats and f**ks and eats.
Do you think that you are not the State?
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There is a religious box.
And then there are atheists who think outside that box and easily reconcile stuff.
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@3RU7AL
Pre surgery and medical intervention, 35 was about ones limit anyway.
Nonetheless, potential is acquired at birth.
And I did say, notwithstanding physiological anomalies.
Egg producer, sperm producer = procreative potential.
But when it comes to recreational sex....Well.......Bob's your Uncle and Fanny's your Aunty or Bob's your Aunty and Fanny's your Uncle.
Though the balls and dick usually produces the sperm.
And the intended sperm receptacle usually gives access to the ovaries.
Though other receptacles are available.
And some people do have a penchant for the unusual....Which is readily catered for these days.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
We attain a position within society and bide our time until we die.
We may or may not produce progeny, who may do the same and then bide their time until they die
And so on.
Now, whether any of this has any greater purpose, no one knows.
What do you think?
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@Tradesecret
Realistic response no problem Trade.....Refer to it as wooden if you must.
And there are no recordings of Jesus's words.....Just after the event hand me down tales, recorded by those that possessed the ability to do so.....In their own words.
Translated and reworked many times since, by other literary scholars in their own words.....And so on.
And now it's your turn to reinterpret things.
No problem.....If it makes you happy, then I'm happy.
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@3RU7AL
Wherein lies the potential.
I suppose that having ones balls removed has been an option for quite a awhile.
Ovary removal is a more recent option though.
Surgical contrivances maketh the person these days then?
Yep....An evolved possibility.....One cannot argue, that evolution is not normal.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
For sure the Lizard being out of place and out of time gets my sympathy too.
And yes....... The vagaries of time and ooze.
And a good job I looked him up, because I assumed that Lin Wood was a girl.
And Sacha Baron Cohen for President .....If it's good enough for the Orange Clown, then it's good enough for Sacha.
Flash....Tough on grime.....9 out of 11 cats preferred it.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Like I said....Giuliani does leak.
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@3RU7AL
Little Timmy and Little Lucy and Uncle Bob and Aunt Fanny.
What do you call them?
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@oromagi
Giuliani is a cosmic lizard.
The black blood seeping out of it's head in the parking lot was a dead give away.
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@TheUnderdog
Notwithstanding rare physiological anomalies, there are just two sexes.
The egg producer and the sperm producer.
Everything else is just a mish mash of ideas based around recreational sex and associated surgical/ medical possibilities.
But whatever it takes to float ones boat, is fine by me.
Population 7.9 billion and counting, so nothing to worry about.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Humans don't talk like what?.....Aliens?
And Mattgaetzquertermous, or Matzermous as it's known throughout the universe........Is a renowned cosmic polyglot, for sure.
But too much time spent in the Beamatron imbibing alcohol with intergalactic nymphets, has exposed it's prosthetic head.
I'm not making this up.
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@TheUnderdog
As I've explained previously.
By virtue of sensory ability, everyone is racist and/or discriminatory.
And everyone is a person of colour....It's just that tone varies.
Social problems will therefore inevitably arise, in a society that naturally fragments into sub-groups based upon perceivable differences.
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@TheUnderdog
People choose to drive, therefore they accept the risks.
People don't choose to be wrongfully convicted of murder or rape.... And therefore shouldn't be expected to accept a death sentence as a risk of being wrongfully convicted.
And being wrongfully convicted and executed is no justification for anything.
Money is make believe, and no one actually needs to be homeless, but that's just how a greed based system works.
I too am anti-war......And corporate welfare is just another facet of a greed based system...A system that you and I are both a part of.
So I will give all my money to a homeless person, if you will give up the system and go live in a remote cave and hunt and gather for a living.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Whatabout whataboutism?
You've got an alien masquerading in plain sight as a U.S. politician , and the only thing that you're worried about is a laptop.
Whatabout intergalactic security.
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@TheUnderdog
It only takes one wrong conviction to make the system fail.
And like I said, resurrection isn't an option.
And money is make believe....We happily waste billions on all sorts of trivial and unnecessary stuff.
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@Athias
Spiritual.
An internal electrochemical response to an external stimulus.
Often incorrectly defined with ritual-speak.
Supreme.
Arguably the best pudding in the World.
Or arguably not.
Depending upon one's internal electrochemical response to the pudding.
In my opinion, some puddings are spiritual and some are just nice.
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@oromagi
As I stated everyone is unavoidably 100% racist.
We're actually talking management issues here.
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@Tradesecret
How is it possible to reconcile such statements.
By accepting the bible for what it is.
Multiple uncorroborated folk tales relative to a few people and places during a turbulent time of social development in one small corner of the Earth.
Latterly developed and used has a worldwide system of social oppression and control.
Believe this, do as we say and pay us for the privilege, or we will burn you at the stake.
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@SkepticalOne
Gaetz...Oddball for sure.
Defo has a prosthetic head.
Not sure where his brain is.
Perhaps suspended between his legs.....(Just a hunch).
It would definitely have used a type of advanced teleportation system to acquire the laptop and the girls.
Known as the QB.....The Quertermous Beamatron.
Is sex beaming a federal offence?......Loophole perhaps.
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@TheUnderdog
You've got to prove it first......Beyond all doubt.
Rather than just create a judgement.
Judgements are often biased, and have been wrong on more than one occasion.
Resurrection isn't an option.
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@3RU7AL
Noooo.
I was just saying that in my opinion "so now you're a LEGALIST"......Wasn't going to cut much mustard with Mr Sadolite.
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@AceDebatesStuff
Ah.
A person with a profile....Quite rare.
Mine was erased for some reason, and never updated.
I see you have one too.....Well done.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
In my opinion. A Zedku for Deb from down under.
Mr Ethan.
Philly's finest,
Slightly acerbic,
And a tad vitriolic,
No problem.
Only a problem,
If you create one.
And:
In my opinion,
The problem,
Wasn't Mr Ethan,
But those who deliberately chose to turn him into a problem.
Once one chooses,
To respond rather than ignore,
One has taken charge of their own destiny,
By entering into,
A verbal agreement,
Which can easily be,
Opted out of.
Funny how some people,
Would rather,
Choose not to opt out,
Preferring to,
Resort to whinging,
When the going got too tough,
For their over-sensitivity.
Read and weep,
Or ignore and laugh.
Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.
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@sadolite
Silly statuettes for pampered prima donnas.
As Athias suggested......The event in question was probably a publicity stunt.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
No one's special anywhere Deb.
Though some people think that they are.
And sycophants help perpetuate this delusion.
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