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Hey...If violent premature death, just boils down to semantics.

Can I be Poly for a week?

Spurious evidence Doc.

Not a fact in sight.

Happy Chocolate Egg weekend to you and yours Doc.

Did you know that Chocolate Egg Day is a Pagan fertility festival based upon a Pagan fertility festival?....And that's a fact.

In that context, what would a god be?

Are we talking the one that sets fire to shrubbery in order to gain peoples attention?

Or are we talking something a tad more fundamental?

Or perhaps even a woman with four arms.

As ever........God principle sound, floaty about blokes and four armed women not so.

What's your particular favourite?

I agree with your view of what most ordinary Russian people think, but are afraid to say.

And for sure Putin is a typical old style,  paranoid, Russian megalomaniac.

So we wait upon Putin's demise, and the Global community will be in period of turmoil for the foreseeable future.......These situations have a tendency to arise.

As for oil:

Well anything that makes us aware of our unsustainable dependency on fossil fuels, has got to be a good thing.

I know.

Is pizza popular in China?

I would suggest that the "balance" is actually dictated by the moderate core.

In terms of authoritative bodies we apply the labels Democrat and Republican, or Conservative and Liberal, or Left and Right.

But relative to a collective mindset, the core of the U.S (and U.K) establishment and the wider populace, is still firmly moderate.

Isn't that just an example of bias as described in my previous comments?

A point of reduction relative to internal experiences, and faith in an assumed experience beyond that which is perceivable.

As opposed to:

A point of reduction relative to internal experiences only......Though with an understanding of the experience that is imagination.

I would suggest that Poly has a tendency derived from experience and reduced to a point, whereby she generally overthinks things. Especially things such as science and theism.

I love my wife....Scientific application could come to a reasonable conclusion about this. Though I would expect Poly to overthink the concept of love to a point of reduction that exceeds function and process......Whereby she will have a tendency to overthink love......After all, it is human to do so.

Of course, LOVE is a general term that is used to describe  a wide variety of internal responses to a wide variety of perceivably external stimuli.....I love ice cream and the dog and the kids and my wife and  etc etc etc.

And of course we can also apply the same general term to imaginary unperceivable external stimuli....That is to say, internally generated stimuli.....A GOD or GODS for example......Imagination as it were.

Yes.

Though I am not fully acquainted with his work.

Nonetheless, I always state that the GOD principle represents the "substance" of the Universe.

It's the extended ideas of GOD that I have a problem with.....As in Middle Eastern folk tales and the like.

So what should I look for in Spinoza?

Pie crust is pastry and pizza crust is dough.

And if you're buying, you will get what you pay for.

And if your making, you can put what the f*** you like on the top.

Otherwise.....Ask an Italian.

53?.............Billion years of age.

And she cast the Dancing Penguins into the wildernesses of the frozen south.....Filii raptus in nomine deorum.

And the Puffin shall paint it's face as Mel Gibson and reside upon the Holy Isles of Northumbria.

From where the swooping Tern shall shit upon the heads of all celebrity ornithologists.

Based upon the above, one might therefore conclude that a moderate democracy in which administrative power is not allowed become permanently established is the favourable option.

The other option being a lesser or greater tyranny.

So I would conclude that both Parties combined, makes life a lot easier for U.S. citizens.....Or more so, makes life a lot freer.

Freedom that is perhaps taken for granted.

How one might or might not capitalise upon ones freedom, is largely down to the ability of the individual to do so.

And those that don't, usually whinge continually about those that do.

And I in no way intend to denigrate the needs of those who actually can't.

An extravagant lie is one that makes you smile.

For example:

Donald Trump was an erudite Statesman.

For sure...But depends upon how far one chooses to take reduction.

Same with all discussions.....One picks a spot, stands on ones soap box and proclaims the  data that they have taken on board.

Data usually grounded in some measure of formative conditioning (childhood brainwashing)....And then perhaps latterly contrived and modified.

Bias towards particular measures, as it were.

Yep. Greek or Latin or something.

Are you a Puffin sceptic then?

Are you a HUMBLEIST?

Not bad for 53......But a little goes a long way.

Paint your face stripy.

And GODPUFFIN created the Platypus and thought what the fuck.

And the Proboscis Monkey, looked in the still water and and also uttered........What the fuck.

And GODPUFFIN said unto Platypus and Proboscis Monkey....Care not......For KATE of the high end breathable outdoor wear will be thy salvation.

And so it came to be so.....That which is the BBC and Attenborough and all Humble came forth into the light and gave succour.

And the ugly little Bat fucker heard the Moth AND IT WAS GOOD.

An Apuffinist Stephen.

Time and Space,

So all event and duration,

And that which has come to be,

Quantum.

ebuCCube.

The frisson of heated conjecture, maketh the experience.

Are you a headmaster or a tyrant of some sorts?

We record history but we never learn from it.

And old men soon lose touch with young people.

Boys, unsophisticated machinery and pompous old rhetoric are seemingly no match for determined technological warfare.

But it all makes for one hell of a fucking mess.

Old men die, and new old men will take their place.

And Moses was as high as a kite.

Why the fuck didn't GODDO just pop down for a chat?

Why the need for all the burning foliage drama?

You just couldn't make it up....LOL.

The Elderly will inevitably, eventually fit into a coffin.

Is this an unpopular but helpful opinion?

Viable Sperm Producer........................Developmental Anomalies.................Viable Egg Producer.

VSP with a penchant for lingerie..................Typical Presentation...................VEP with a penchant for short back and sides.

Just emphasizing the point, that anyone can make up this sort of COHERENT waffle.

It's perhaps a tradition in Slovenia?

Yes please go on Oh Deb of the Puffin Folk.

Over hear we pray to the Dinosaur GODDESS of the Puffins, whom we refer to as KATE HUMBLE.

I didn't realise that you were a PUFFINIST too.

Chantelle 36: 24: 36......And he came upon the Puffin and proclaimed unto the Humble one.

Shane 69: 66......Lest the figure hugging Humble of the top range breathable outdoor wear, he shall come upon the Puffin.

I just did some research and  by all accounts the second biggest shithole is somewhere known as Sarasota.

Easy Peasy...Think of a place and call it a shithole. LOL Mr Grumpy.

People love London.....I don't think that you have fully researched this issue.

I don't love London.

I'm not sure if homeless Americans would like the weather and the sheep here in Wales...LOL

And I would imagine that people move to Texas, Florida and Arizona for the sunshine.

Not ancient at all.....Victims of the R.C. Church are still alive.....I don't think that you have fully researched this issue.

European colonialists enslaved Africans and Africans enslaved British people (generalisations)....... I don't think that you have fully researched this issue.

You need to prove GOD first....And children learn what they are told....So not by choice...Therefore not consensual.

Yep tithes...10% tax....I thought that you didn't like tax.

And America is similarly democratic to Western Europe (generalisation). And in the true sense of the word, nowhere in Western Europe is a socialist state......You definitely haven't researched this.

In fact...There are no truly socialist states....But let's not digress.

I don't think that you ever really research your ideas.....Which is why you have to eventually resort to insulting a City. LOL.

Nonetheless entertaining though.....Keep up the good work.

It's that old facts issue Doc.

As was correctly pointed out to me by Tarik.

A fact by definition, is unequivocal.

Not a random bit of contrived pseudo-data.

The reason for it happening, was an asteroid was on a collision course with Earth and it collided.

Very simple science then.

Anything else is post-event scientific speculation.......Good fun, and "requires" humans.

And yes.....I'm something, just like you.

Asteroid.....Earth.....Boom.

No science required.

It was either going to hit, or it wasn't.

GOD hadn't  been invented....That was a later hominid thing.

Why do the majority of Catholics ignore the facts Doc?

Maybe it's because the sex is so good.

You're trying to wind me up Doc.

I don't think you quite understand how the "Church" acquired it's wealth....There's nothing squeaky clean about the Church.

And there's nothing consensual about brainwashing children with religious non-sense.

And for example, there was nothing consensual about incarcerating unmarried mothers in brutal Roman Catholic sweat shops.

Over here in the U.K. the workhouse was abolished a long time ago........We sort of evolved into a more caring society.

So it's sad to see that certain sectors of U.S. society haven't evolved with the same level of social concern (morality).

I would suggest that if there is one good thing about moderate governance, it's that it freed us from RELIGIOUS TYRANNY.

No, I'm being ironic.

Eliminating welfare is just fine, until you find yourself in need of welfare.

Nonetheless.....One assumes that welfare evolved because human social morality and ethics evolved.

That is to say that we became more considerate as a species.

Though true.......We certainly  haven't all evolved at the same rate.

Perhaps if people on welfare weren't allowed to vote.......How would that work for you?

They are both similar and different.

We know that.

Largely similar,

But subtly different.

The necessities of human procreation,

As it were.

We know that.

But we make up all sorts of other stuff too.

Hmmmmmm.

Roman Catholic schools........The 1960's......Sexually repressed Priests and Nuns. (The best in the World you would have me believe).

You're sailing close to the wind again Doc.

Safer to keep religion out of child development.

This is a reasonable statement.

Is it right or wrong to initiate a Universal sequence of events?

How would a GOD know?

Perhaps this is not the first time......So either, without consideration GOD hasn't bothered to modify things, or GOD has modified things, only with consideration for it's modifications but with disregard for the outcomes of it's modifications.

Of course we like to think that we are a special outcome and therefore should receive special consideration.

But we might just be one of many standard outcomes.

If only GOD wasn't incommunicado, we could just ask it.

So perhaps we do just make this stuff up.

Or perhaps GOD is amoral.

Come on Doc.

Who on Earth would bother to conduct such a deliberately shallow point scoring survey?

Come and join the Roman Catholics and enjoy the best sex in the World.....LOL.

Maybe it's the flagellation that makes it so good.

If you believe that sort of contrived misinformation Doc, you will believe anything.

GODS and Leprechauns for instance.

Have $10 each way on Freewheelin Dylan in the Aintree Grand National Doc.........Misinformation or not Doc?

Top of the morning to ya.

Obviously.

So you don't always agree with a lot of people, and a lot of people don't always agree with you.....Such is human society....Such is a State.

Of course it does.

But just different ones to yours.

Morality and coherent values can mean different things to different people........There is no universal or global set of standards.

"Testing" if you like.

And Qualia and ritual speak are derived  from internal data management.....And internal data management is a seemingly remarkable, electrochemical process.

The same as everything else.......You might feel the need to include a GOD in this process.....And I just see the need for a GOD, as being an inevitable part of this process.

So we acquire, create and transfer data relative to experience.....A. Creates an internal need for a GOD, and also creates an associated database......Z.  Doesn't create an internal need for a GOD, and creates an associated database.....Same electrochemical processing, slightly different conclusions reached. Output will obviously contrast, though neither is irrational in terms of process.....Both are Qualia.

Though neither proves or disproves the existence of an actual GOD.

And spirituality cannot be demonstrated to be more than an internal electro-chemical response to an external stimulus.

Well....... I think that you advocacy of unbiased social inclusion, is both admirable and liberal.

I share the same liberal principles of social inclusivity, but principles grounded in a knowledge acquired from a more moderate/realistic view of human nature.

In so much as the management of acquired data relative to any aspect of our social systems, is subject to an inevitable personal discriminatory process.

We perceive differences, we think, we make relative judgements, we conclude, we output or we store for later. 

Which is slow the Government or the Law.

I'm not sure about the U.S.....But here in the U.K. the Government is a separate institution to the Law.

So you want independent Police companies that are regulated by the Government of the day, voluntarily paid for by the people?

Now...I can see a plethora of problems with that system.....But let's just leave it there.

And I'm not sure that a murder victim is going to be calling anyone.....LOL

Even more obtuse.

So much so, that I've forgotten what we were discussing.

Have a nice day.

You have state Police regulated by government, rather than government police.

Government Police would be private Police. which would have to be replaced every 4 years. (Hopefully)

So if you have private Policing companies ....Would they be regulated or not?.....And if regulated, then by who?......And who awards the contracts.

And if not regulated, then what?.......Sounds like trouble to me.

And just maybe, the poor conviction rate is not the fault of poor Policing, but perhaps has something to do with the legal system and it's private practitioners.

How old are you then.....250?

And despite Independence, and depending upon where in time one chooses to stick ones pin....Then most or all of you are the descendants of immigrants.

Same as just about everywhere really.

Remember the past.....Forget the past.....Which ever suits the moment I suppose.

Depends upon how one chooses to define deportation.

If you just mean regularly sending the same people back across the Mexican border, then numbers will  be relative to how my times in a year someone can be bothered to try and cross.

It's probably a bit of a game for some.