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Je ne comprends pas.

Nigger like so many words has it's origins in the Latin language.

Therefore in it's "origin" was never abusive.

It is more likely therefore that it was originally regarded as an abusive term, rather than intended as an abusive term.

I'm far from sure that there is any real  benefit to be gained, by challenging an established system with basically the same system, wherein both systems are based upon the same principles.

Ultimately cryptocurrency is just the same, relative to the same.

So if you wished to buy land or property from me, I would set a price that would have to be met in Pounds Sterling.....Therefore you would need to possess crypto of a comparative value, and an institution or system that would be prepared to convert crypto to Pounds Sterling.....Or vice versa.

Though one would suggest that eventually all currency will be crypto in nature anyway.....Call it what you will.

Nonetheless, in terms of investment give me a  tangible commodity, rather than a digital assumption.

And interestingly, when researching this subject one found that crypto wealth was eventually always measured in dollars.

So unless one can invent a technology whereby wealth can be created from nothing........But then, how would such an egalitarian system function?....Robots perhaps......But what would motivate people?......Boredom perhaps.

At an atomic level the human body is made up of mostly emptiness.

Everything is history Doc.

The present only lasts a nanosecond, and the future is what becomes the present and is consigned to history in the next nanosecond.

Well, over here in the UK when restrictions were lifted, the infection rate shot up.

Thankfully, the vaccination programme seems to have been reasonably effective, though a few people are still experiencing symptoms that require hospitalization.

4th vaccination due soon....And still wearing mask in busy environments.

China and India look a bit grim at the moment.

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Sort of a melange of ideas not quite attaining a telos.

"Fat" has evolved from an unnecessity to do anything.

And Trans-Sexuality has evolved from an unsubstantiated sequence of events.......All arguments are pertinent, even if one doesn't like the other persons argument.

@Poly.

Is that based upon the penis size to skin tone ratio, relative to wealth study......Conducted by the Pagan Health Institutes Department for Bedroom Efficacy and  Statistics.....PHIDBES for short.

A bit like Docs claim.....Spurious. 

Which all goes to prove that Public School should be banned........Doesn't it?

Though if the public don't go to school, who will?

What is the correlation between low divorce rates and best sex?

In terms of time spent, what percentage of a relationship is given up to sex?

I'm not sure that you fully understand the concept of best sex Doc.

You seem to be confusing it with the concept of a stable marriage.

People maybe satisfied with their relationships and content with their adequate sex lives, but this isn't really the measure of best sex.

Sexuality is explained by the innate desire to reproduce.

Methodology can be variable.

And we like to read more into these things than is actually necessary.

Youthanasia creeps in too.

Very heart warming I'm sure.

But not comparable.

I was suggesting that it is very unlikely that a hearing person would choose to be deaf.

Not the same as a deaf person refusing surgery.

It's exactly the same argument.....Whether it's The U.S.A or Mexico or 2022 or 1722.

Funny how you shifted you're focus onto Mexico......Sort of dodging the issue as it were.

Of course developmental anomalies occur.

I have addressed this issue many times.

Some people are born deaf, or blind.....But this is not the same as choosing to be deaf or blind.......I think that we would regard this as foolish behaviour.

Social construct of gender....You said it.

Biological sex.....You said it.

So firstly.........Neither you nor I has conflated the issues.

And secondly......... I prefer to refer to it as constructional rather than biological.......Biological has other more complex implications.....Whereas constructional is that which is presented at birth.

And I don't try to hurt people, people hurt themselves.....It's the old offender, offence, offended argument.

And bigots don't need ammunition....They're already well armed.

I was intrigued by the notion of intellectually challenged societies. As if there is such a specific thing as an unintellectually challenged or intellectually challenged society.

I would suggest that any moral or ethical disagreement is likely to result from ideological differences rather that intellectual disparity.

Not at all...My point is mine and mine alone, derived at internally....Everyone else makes their own points in the same way. To feign hurtfulness is just an emotive side tracking of the realistic debate.....People can choose and I wish them well.

And the old new gender sex semantics thing, I don't see as relevant.....Once again, it just seeks to side track the realistic argument.

A Trans man is a female that thinks they are male....I am fully accepting of this.....But they are  what they are nonetheless

And in terms of realism, I am referring to constructional realism as opposed to applied realism.

I am not suggesting that I doubt the on the spot reality and integrity of the Trans situation.

What about the socially and intellectually over challenged, challenging of those that don't necessarily wish to be challenged.

@Tarik.

Begs the question....How long is eternity?

Or is it simply a case of.....Well, you are rehabilitated now....But you're still damned for eternity......Sorry matey.

Or is it simply the case, that we are wittering on about non-sense again?

Me thinks the latter......But it does provide entertainment.

Admirable Stephen.

Yep that's basically what happens.

It's been happening for years and years.

Immigration, prejudice based on fearfulness of strangers, slow familiarisation and integration, general acceptance.....And then some other ugly looking buggers come along and upset the apple cart again........D'oh.

Though I think that most of them are actually from Planet Earth.

All except Matt Gaetz and family that is......Not his dad, he was part of a hybrid breeding programme.

Nonetheless:

Can you imagine what the First Nationers thought when the first European Colonialists rocked up and took over all the buffalo and beaver slaughtering jobs........What the F***'s going on here!

It's nice to end with a smile.

Must go now, things to do.

Have a nice day.

Odd stuff.

Why is it awkward talking to older people?

What is the difference between a "common person" pre and post 1980 or 1996 or whenever?

I would suggest that  sexual interaction between two men is as psychologically taboo today as it ever was, it's just that social acceptability has (sort of) changed.

Lesbianism has never carried the same weight of unacceptability.

And let's not concern ourselves here with T. (Just as taboo and also sort of acceptable).....And the can of worms that is Q. (but only if one asks the right questions)......Nor the huge contradiction that is B.

Interesting that you don't mention popular religion, which to a greater extent is responsible for laying the foundations of sexual repression and moral oppression.

Sort of salty, so I am told........LOL.

What on Earth is this 26 year old on about?

Is this yet another act of justification?

Why are my predictions doomy and gloomy....I'm just pointing out what is typically U.S Presidential activity.

Cheap stickers then....probably made in China.

So, driven by your lust for cheap gasoline, you fully support the Russian (Putin) invasion of an independent sovereign territory?

Why am I not surprised.

I see it as a good wake up call to our over-dependency and the unsustainabilty of fossil fuels.

I'm British....But mention the name Barney and I think of only one person...A fictional one at that.

Now Fred, and I think of..................

Yabba Dabba Doooooooooo.

I doubt it.

There might be a typical swing towards the opposition. Depending upon who and what of course.

Though when push comes to shove in 2024, the died in the wool will do as they always do, and the moderate centre will once again be the ones that decide what's what.

Of course there will be the whole election circus of misinformation and allegations and scandals to get through before then.

And then there's that ridiculous voting system.

Such is global entertainment Hollywood style.

The trouble is, presidencies have to be bought.

They're not awarded on merit alone.

Do you also think that 335 million people are listening to you?

You will share the views of a fairly extreme right wing insular fraternity.

The sort that would don their red hat and jump with glee at the sight of an orange clown.

Not everyone is so impressed by such behaviour.....Some people are smarter than that.

For sure, everything is subjective.

Even the notion of objectivity is subjective, or more correctly, data subject to the same processes of internal manipulation.

It's not that morals are independent and definitive objects that float about and occasionally bump you on the head.

They are created inside your head....And disinterested or not you will still possess some data sequences that resemble what is loosely regarded as morality.

I can probably suggest a hundred things, that when subjected to your internal moral scrutiny, you would decline to do in the shopping mall.

A discussion for the sake of it really.....Which is fine and dandy.

   

I'm good at extrapolating metaphors.

You seem to think that you speak for 335 million people.

A tad arrogant I would suggest.

All accounted for in my previous statement, if you care to read it thoroughly.

Cis males who are infertile, is quite self explanatory.

As is a female, that thinks she is male.

Developmental anomaly as opposed to an afterthought.

Though everything is real within a context....And therefore real by association.

So even if my understanding of basic factual reality may seem somewhat conservative, I am nonetheless fully supportive of personal freedom to choose.

Most of the guff that gets inserted into the dictionary and reference books these days, is simply justification for what is still a taboo issue. 

Justification to the point of extremism, one might add.

For sure, we will release energy as we decay and are component parts are reduced to fundamental matter.

Or perhaps we will be cast into the fiery furnace wherein our component parts will be rapidly  reduced to fundamental matter.

Call it eternal damnation and rehabilitation if you like.

Only a clown wouldn't realise that it's already 2022.

It takes effort and joie de vivre to ride a bike.

And I would suggest that you underestimate the integrity of the American people.

Debateart:

Well organised discussion website.

Enjoy.

You either have a Bidenesque President, or a Putinesque President.

And Orangeman fancied himself in the latter role.....And the American electorate and the majority of politicians both Dem and Rep were having none of it.

Long live the moderate voice of the United States of America.

And cheap gasoline....GO get yourself a bike....It will do you the world of good.

So you think...But I would wager, a thought based on an inherent bias, rather than actually being related to a real understanding of fiscal policy.

And also irrelevant in respect of  the point I was making.....Orange Clown lost the previous election simply because people realised that he was actually an Orange Clown.

American President.....We're talking World Statesman who represents the U.S. globally, and the Orange guy was a World laughing stock.....Ok, so we have a laugh every time the old guy trips up the steps of Airforce 1......But at least he's taken more seriously as a politician.

Are there no decent straightforward honest candidates available any more?.....Well there probably are.....But they are far too boring for all the pre-election circus and razzamataz.

You're just trying to wind me up Doc.

I think I've already read that, and dismissed it as bogus.

Excuse me Mr and Mrs Catholic, is your sex better than everyone else's?........Why of course it is.

Excuse me Mr and Mrs Other Ideological Preference, is your sex better that everyone else's........Why of course not, Mr and Mrs Roman Catholic have by far the best sex.

LOL.

I admire your enthusiasm and self-confidence.

But there is something fundamentally amiss with the above statement.

And I will refrain from making any further comments concerning the article which is #1 of this thread.

Bidenmantooold of course

Orangeclownwasanorangeclown of course.

Put up a Republican with a modicum of common sense and you might stand half a chance.

Same applies to Democrats.

Last time it was a toss up between the really old reasonably sensible guy, and the not quite so old corrupt orange fool.

And you quite rightly ended up with the lesser of the two evils as it were.

Opinion: The Roman Catholic Church has never been right about anything really.

Although it is very good at making and hoarding wealth and not spending it on it's poorer members.

Native Americans were as native as dictated by the moment that they migrated from Northern Asia.

And then other people migrated from elsewhere and things changed.

And people continue to migrate, and things continue to change.

I think that Australia continues to undergo a similar process.

And the U.K has been experiencing the same process ever since boats were invented.

And trading goods has been an integral part of the process too.

Same old shit.

Every four years or so, one half of the population thinks that the other half inhabit a different planet, and vice versa.

Nonetheless:

Get up, bathroom, breakfast, work or some other activity to fill the time, lunch, work or some other activity to fill the time, home and relax or some other activity to fill the time, dinner, bed and so on until death.

Red hat, blue hat, spotty underpants.

Humans are brilliant.

Human stupidity is what it is.

Christianity as a contrived religious ideology does not require proof.

And some stupid people will inevitably take their ideological devotion to the ultimate extreme.

None of which provides actual proof of an existent godhead.

Just informs us of some of the whacky stuff humans get up to.

Realism not scepticism.

Trans men are women that think that they are men....Fine.

The big difference between the fundamental reality of physiology and the machinations of post natal psychology and modern medical and surgical intervention.

The reality is that a trans man will always be a trans man, rather than a naturally constructed sperm producer.

What it might say in a dictionary nowadays is simply what it might say in a dictionary nowadays.

And just for the record, I have absolutely no issues with the Trans concept, and the courses of action that some people are determined to follow...As one cannot argue that this behaviour in itself, does not possess it's own realism.

But I will not be brow beaten into disregarding the fundamental reality of the human species.......Egg producer....Sperm producer.

Developmental anomalies relating to gender, are what they are.....But are not the same as post natal transitioning based upon choice.

No debate necessary.

Nice Jibe Doc.

But you know that you are wrong.

Well stated.

Another pagan festival hijacked by Christianity.

Perverse logic some might say.

But logical nonetheless.

Well stated.

The offender either emits sound waves or produces a visually perceivable narrative.

The offended detect sound or light waves, convert signals into data, and then create their own offense for their own purposes.

Alternatively they could just not bother to respond.

I would therefore suggest that people actually enjoy being offended.