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For sure...Not betrayal but an empathy that transcends the escarpment of reality.

Curved air bereft of curved membrane, saturates the horizon, with prism shattered colour.

As the new one rises and the old one falls, in triple time.

Dearth, death and indignity.

Whilst the two headed man gazes North and South, East and West, patient crow ready to pick eyes tired gazing in a moment.

And the vampire Earth sucks all life blood out of the bird butchered corpses.

And when it can no longer be recharged the battery will remain....But uncharged.

As the battery is just the container.

Of course the container might eventually be broken down or even recycled.....It is at this point that the battery will cease to exist.

Just like when you die (run out of life), your body will still remain until such time as it decomposes or is cremated.

You are the container of your life.

True.

But you and I both know that the Sun is a Star.

And not some floaty about bloke with a light switch.

Exactly

But you can recharge a battery.

Depends upon whether one wants ones testicles removed or not.

That was a genuine random thought.

It cannot be proved that a GOD exists.

And how would conservatives teach kids Doc?

I know, I know,

A good thrashing from the Nuns never did anyone any harm.

Do I have a Bible.

Yep when debating, I have the dictionary.

So I know what an axiom is.

And I also know that Giraffes cannot find suitable swim suits.

This is not an axiom.

Yep. But look at the U.S. track record since WW2.

And I don't remember the Afghanis attacking the U.S.

And neither do I remember Cambodia, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Syria or Libya attacking the U.S.

Afghanistan was just a knee jerk reaction to the Twin Towers attack, and I don't suppose that their was one Afghani involved. 

More than likely Saudi sponsored terror.

But the U.S. was never going to invade Saudi Arabia was it.....Too much economic interest.

Undoubtedly.

Survival of the intellectually fittest.

Though currently the fittest still need armies of moronic thugs.....So keep feeding them and make them feel special and wanted.

But if they get a bullet in the head, stick them in a bag, send the little heroes home to mummy, forget about them, and move on.

Still plenty of morons available, looking for a free meal and guns to play with.

Such is the ongoing and unchanging necessity of the thinking species.

Nope you don't get it.

Ceases to function as an electrical power source.

The battery still remains functional.....Can be recharged with energy, or used for artistic purposes as described.

Always recycle spent batteries responsibly.

The other buzz word is expansionism Doc.

And then there is the phrase, ageing megalomaniac.

But what is it that I don't understand about "buffer zone" Doc?

Perhaps the U.S. should invade Northern Mexico just to be sure.

Ruskies a bit tougher to f**k with, than Afghan pomegranate farmers?

All ten a penny axioms buddy.

It's all semantics at the end of the day buddy.

And you have a corrupted understanding of English semantics.

Along with a World View, corrupted by your conditioning.

Such is how society functions though.

Absolutely.

Though whether this is still the case would be difficult to say.

And I refer not to the financially poor, but to the intellectually poor.

Ha Ha.

It's you and in perfect prose.

People are poor relative to circumstance, inheritance and innate incapability.

Poor should not just be regarded as a lack of money.

If we were a truly considerate species, we would strive to eliminate greed, rather than half heartedly attempt to eliminate poverty.

Eliminate greed and you would eliminate poverty.

Though I would suggest that greed is perhaps the necessity of evolution, and that in the bigger scheme of things, "the poor" do not  warrant concern.

Hence we are not instinctively altruistic, for a reason.

LOL.

How big is a buffer zone Doc?

Russia is the largest country in the World.

Don't they have enough room, to be able to create their own buffer zone?

Why do they need a bit of the Ukraine?

Where will they want a bit of next?

You heard the Russian buzz phrase "buffer zone" on TV, didn't you?

You old commie Doc.

And atheism is not a belief system.

Atheists do not except the existence of a GOD or any GOD, that cannot be unequivocally be shown to exist.

Therefore the concept of belief is irrelevant to an Atheist.

Whereas brainwashed theists, have to rely upon belief, because they have nothing else, other than old stories written by their naive ancestors.

Cheese is made from milk.

Cheese is tasty.

Ice is cold.

Fire is hot.

Arms and legs are useful.

Walking is slower than cycling.

Bicycles have two wheels.

Tricycles have three wheels.

Elephants are large animals.

Mice are smaller than Elephants.

Lions eat meat.

Elephants eat vegetation.

Bears eat meat and vegetation.

Birds have feathers.

Birds fly.

Aeroplanes fly.

Axioms are ten a penny.

See above.

Your getting older, set in your ways and are fearful and reluctant to accept change.....That's typical behaviour.

Or perhaps you think that we should still all be riding horses.

Now, the biggest change in our lifetimes was the advent of the technological age.....So did you resist this in favour of the Pony Express.

I expect not, because you were younger and more able to mentally cope with the change.

But now it's........ Electric cars?........ How preposterous, what ever next?......A gas guzzling truck never did me any harm.

And we will die very soon, and another bunch of non achievers that failed to  make it into the planning elite, will stand on the side-lines of evolution and whinge about change.

And the planners will plan and will continue to plan and in a relatively short period of time, everything will have changed beyond all recognition.

So you are in effect advocating anarchy again.

The thing is, that without planning and planners we would still be living in caves, fearful of every thing that moved.

Planning and planners is how human society has evolved.

And you're either a planner or not.

And if you're not a planner, then that's your fault and not the fault of the planners.

So you just become one of the millions that whinges from the side lines and always think that they could have done better.

@POLY

#50 

Not that you necessarily know how to debate decently Poly.

Sort of the pot calling the kettle black.

Because you are currently the single most abusive person in the forum.

You don't want to discuss decently, because discussing decently means engaging with people who might disagree with you.

And you will not tolerate people who might disagree with your unconventionality.

Fortunately their are a lot of active, decent, tolerant and less abusive forum users.

50 years is a moment.

And things developed.

So we applied progress

With little regard for the future

And we blame everyone but ourselves

And a generation of petrol heads 

Are well and truly stuck in the past 

I agree.

But such is a Russian desire for power, not tempered with Western sensibility. Which doesn't necessarily mean that from a Russian perspective Putin's intentions weren't initially good.

We look at it from a completely different social view point, with little or no understanding of Russian society and how it impacts upon the necessities of government.

And for sure the older Putin has become a typical Russian megalomaniacal despot.

The good thing is, he doesn't look such a well man theses days. So we await his successor with anxious glee.

Love your prose.

The variable syntax, reminds me very much of someone else, but I can't remember their username.

Jaisha might suggest a female or a drag artist, perhaps from India.

Or it could all be an elaborate ruse.

Either way, it introduces a bit of temporary frisson to a fairly mundane Debateart.

Just done some scrolling, and it was Utanity that I was reminded of.

Nope.

The battery is just the container.

This is a fact not a feeling.

When the chemical energy held within the battery is exhausted, it ceases to produce electrical energy.

The battery remains intact.

And in certain circumstances can be recharged.

You seem to have a tyranny obsession.

It's what's generally known as government.

The opposite of which is anarchy.

See Putin in his marble palace.

Now that's tyranny.

#53

Wouldn't call that a valuable argument.

So the educated veil slips, and surprise surprise, you despise clever "white" atheists.

Tell me something new.

Undoubtedly.

@Poly

Not sure what paedophilia has to do with being an atheist.

In fact if anywhere, paedophilia is more associated with repressed theists, rather than open minded atheists.

And furthermore, such defamatory accusations need to be backed up with hard fact Poly, or one might find oneself with a hefty lawsuit pending.

So best not put any names to your salacious jibes and insinuations Poly.

@Poly

And you're not the one with an attitude problem?

@Poly

Your extremely abusive attitude is also noted.

So, you have an atypical approach to theism and are surprised and annoyed when this is challenged within a discussion forum.

You also clearly have a  preconditioned negative response to the idea of atheism and those that question theism.

Considering such intolerance, it's no wonder that one might also consider how such conditioned negativity might manifest within your personal sphere of engagements.

Nonetheless, one apologizes for the somewhat jocular way of bringing such concerns into the forum.

Sure hope Mum doesn't swear like that at home.

That's theism for you.

Philosophical reasoning can come to any conclusion that it wants to come to.

That's the beauty of thinking.

And also the reason why 90% of philosophy is either stating the obvious or absolute BS.

And axioms are ten a penny.

Just like GOD, the YETI (Dinanthropoides nivalis) is an established proposition.

One would therefore assume that as GOD sets a precedent, then your faith in the existence of the YETI is also absolute.

Always sensible to stay out of the way of horses.

And so, truckers don't need to truck these days.

As I said, paid too much by the media to perform stunts on TV.

And if you ever do live under a tyrannical regime, you will have real reason for concern.

How about encouraging people to not pointlessly drive about all day.

Watch cars on the highway, and you will see a string of five seaters all with just one person in them.

People always want to be somewhere other than where they are.

Maybe it's just a response to the old hunter gathering instinct.

Interestingly, prior to just 137 years ago, as a species we managed quite well without cars.

in fact, I can't think of any other species that is reliant upon motor transport.

In an evolutionary context, perhaps it would be more prudent to start discouraging the unnecessary, and concentrate more on the necessary.

Ah!....But the motor industry.

And the GOD of money rears it's ugly head. 

Yep.

Who's paying these fascist truckers to sit around honking all day.

Seemingly, gone are the days when truckers needed to truck for a living.

For goodness sake, get the good old Mounties to give them Soviet truckers a good biffing.

Though I blame the media and celebrity culture.

Stick a camera in their faces, make Truckers media  sensations, and Bob's your Uncle, instant superheroes, fighting against tyranny and social injustice.

Cheap entertainment,

Big rewards.

And what are they fighting for?

I've forgotten.

Doesn't matter anyway,

Celebrity superhero truckers is all that matters.

All your responses above, except for the last one, are fallacious.

Because my arguments relating to belief, are sound and irrefutable.

You made no attempt to refute them.

As for "valid pathways of knowledge":

Well, that's just another more fanciful  way of saying we can acquire and utilise data.

@Poly

As Yas suggests, most people "barely care" about politics....Other than blaming politicians for everything that is seemingly difficult.

Just like most of the time, most people barely "care about" religion.

All that politics and religion are, is intermittent brain activity squeezed in between all the mundane day to day survival stuff.

What generally constitutes most  "Normal People", are one's with a head, with two arms, two legs, and all internal systems functioning reasonably appropriately. 

Obviously exceptions apply, but these are not most people.

Of course, a debate website will attract certain people, who are interested in airing their intermittent brain activities amongst fellow similarly interested parties.

Hence a concentration of politically and religiously dedicated brain activity.

So who want's to talk fluffy kittens then?

Yep, same applies to me.

I get so annoyed when I make obvious errors.

Especially things like misusing you're and your.

Smiley face for the cute arse by the way.

It's amazing how the extra A and the missing L, stand out like a sore thumb.

Not a criticism just an observation.

Hey Broski.

I for one, agree with Intel.

See my above suggestions for battery art.

And batteries don't die, 

Batteries are just energy containers,

And when the energy runs out,

They just become empty containers.

Just create art,

And refill them with love.

Other than that.

Pert breasts, slender legs and a cute arse are debatably desirable features.

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Dear Poly.

Speaking of illiteracy.

What the f**k does the question mean.

And I only said f**k, because you said f****** s***.

What's sauce for G****, is sauce for the G***** as it were.

Love Zed.

Bro D.

Nice to see you back and at it.

Hallelujah.

Can't beat a good honk.

I couldn't make out a Pixies elation.

But I could perhaps see a Dwarfs star.

Though from a flat earthers perspective, I'm sure that I could make out one of the conspiratorial elite, sprinkling fairy dust.

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