zedvictor4

Well.

The evolutionary processes that have affected matter since a moment of creation/initiation/re-initiation (like you I am unable to know the reality of this moment) are indisputable.....Therefore  I have no need of belief.

Nonetheless you have a solution, namely GOD....A particular 2000 year old floaty about version, of the same hypothesis that has existed for many thousands of years.....Your GOD is simply old hat imagination, dressed up in newer clothes.....But you continue to put your faith in this old guy and deny the ongoing processes that affect the world around you....Such is the strength of repressive data transfer and conditioning, that causes people to become so egotistical in their foundness and so firmly rooted to their crease.....Even though the bails went flying years ago.

The reality is though, that everything boils down to the same old story.

Once upon a time long long ago, something happened,

And we know not what.

And things are still happening.

And things are likely to continue happening until,

The End.

And then of course, someone was nailed to a post.

And that explained everything.

You just wouldn't believe it!

Would you?

Yes you would Boys and Girls.

Now off you go and play cricket.

Do you believe this stuff?

Is this really a multi-offending married Incel?

Or just a serial fantasist.

Either way,

Are impressionable youngsters at risk? 

A selective extinction event,

Or a tent,

Might be the answer.

That your after.

A virus that only attacks,

The moron-gene.

And a sown in groundsheet,

Makes the home,

A complete,

Treat,

For the feet.

By the way,

And before you say.

I was DNA tested,

No moron-gene detected.

Have you been preselected?

Also,

A truly free market.

Would pretty much,

Entirely,

Eliminate,

Poverth,

Might be,

Symptomatic.

@Poly

How about a woman with a mid-life crisis and a confused belief system (only joking)....Jealous of a currently confident and content, over 50 man....Far from white....In fact slightly ruddy by virtue of heritage.

In fact we are all what we are by virtue of heritage.....An unalterable consequence of species evolution relative to time, space and matter.

Perhaps that's what makes you such a polytheistically perfect female Poly?

Psalms and Corinthians loosely repeat human tales.

And your GOD conforms to the will and the character of the character GOD, as depicted by those who loosely repeated 2000 year old plus tales, 2000ish years ago.

And the cross as mentioned in said tales, is representative of said tales, and said tales certainly helped to shape more recent human events and societies.

And "we" don't know the half of it, and may never do so. But by virtue of species evolution we have undeniably acquired "superior " knowledge.....Knowledge that said repeaters of said tales were never able to possess. Hence we have actually exceeded the need for a humanesque creator GOD and it's associated Middle Eastern tales.

It's a shame really that you and millions of other's refuse to get it.

But such is data transfer and data conditioning relative to social order and the human desire for wealth and power.....And you and I are just pawns in the game.

So realistically it's not a shame at all.....It's just the way of the human world.

And if the biblical  GOD works as a coping strategy for you, then who am I to deny you that comfort.

I cope perfectly well without.

 

The only thing that philosophy teaches us, is that it's possible to spend ones working life just talking bullshit.

I'm obviously in the wrong job then.....Thought I say that before you did.

Why does a GOD have to conform to a cultural mindset the prevailed prior to the 1st century, only in the Eastern Mediterranean/Arabian Peninsular region of this one small Planet?

If a GOD is going to conform to any mindset, I would suggest that it would be a super-intelligent, logical and universal mindset.

Thereby rendering tales of apples and snakes, floating Zoo's, general miracles and nailing blokes to posts for our sins, to the realms of super-intelligent comedy sketch shows.

One assumes that GODS enjoy a good laugh at the human comedians.

No.

Afghanistan was just World politics playing out in a Third World backwater.

Just like Osama was once a U.S. ally against the Soviets, so now the Taliban are the allies.

The status of Afghan enemy, has now shifted to an even more extreme element of Islamic society.

So now we support the Taliban and use them to fight the holy war.

The U.S. public weren't going to support another Korea or Vietnam indefinitely.

Get out quick and befriend the Taliban....I'm guessing that was the political and military strategy, even before the Biden Administration actually came into Office.

Don't get deluded by all the Giant Killer and Veterans bullshit that we're bombarded with on social media, that's just propaganda.

Giant Killers and Veterans are only ever pawns in the political game.

I had this discussion with Tarik.

And I had to concede, that according to definition there is a considerable difference between actual facts, and general information.

Misuse of the word fact had become a bad habit, as you just exemplified.

Withdrawing from Afghanistan was a masterstroke.

And pick a Democrat, any Democrat, and blame them for all the ills of the World.

Same old, same old.

And the orange clown was a hero clown, for sure.

And Biden is too old, but at least not an old clown.

Such is the entertainment that is media driven politics.

Oats for sure.

And I suppose that if one has never placed the burden of responsibility for ones entire existence, onto to the shoulders of ones imagination.

Then one will not feel let down when ones expectancies are challenged.

Though it must be said that realistically the basis of any challenge is a fellow hominid, and not a conditioned belief system.

But herein exists a hominid that has had the luxury of a comfortable and secure existence for the past 62years.

Such are the fortunes of evolution.

The very process of learning and generating new data, is based upon the ability to remember and record previous events.

Otherwise we would still be roaming the Earth naked, fearful of predators, eating berries and insects.

But I do know what you mean.

One is rarely shook,

Because one has become conditioned and therefore insensitive to the fact,

That there is always someone somewhere capable of something.

So if for example, I am told that someone somewhere can and does legally decapitate their spouse,

Then that event just becomes something else, that someone participated in somewhere.

And I return to my porridge, unshaken.

Why Why Why Delilah.

 Skimming through on a wet Saturday afternoon.

And I was both pleased and intrigued to see a reference  to myself in the above discussion.

Exactly what are you referencing here?

As I would like to recap , before I might comment.

One produces an egg, and another fertilizes it....This is biological sex.

One produces an egg, and another fertilizes it...Formerly representative of gender.

The term gender has latterly been repurposed to also represent all sorts of other guff, relative to the justification of previously taboo recreational sex acts and conceptual fantasy.

Of course, these days sexual fantasy is easily factualized by the physicians medications, the surgeons knife, the psychologists spiel and the politicians mandate.

Such is human evolution.

New World order Doc.

Things move on.....Or have moved on.

I think that the UK. has already started to adapt....Colonialism came back to bite us in the backside in the 1960's

And Western Europe has bore the brunt of the effects of more recent Allied interference in the Middle East and North Africa.

Whereas there are still a lot of  insular thinking Americans,  unaffected by the huge changes in global demographics.

Maybe yours and Yassines mutual antipathy is stereotypically representative of your formative conditionings.

Interestingly, you both think different versions of the same thing.

Based upon cultural and theistic divergence and human migration.

From my point of view, I would suggest that Yassine is somewhat more confident than you, thereby your unease with the situation manifests in the form of criticism.

Just an observation.

What if he wasn't just limited to the wine, fish and healing stuff?

What if he could also do invincible?

But there again, if someone is hell bent on martyrdom for the sake of my sins.

Then who am I to put silly ideas, into their head.

Daft ideas, like do sensible stuff.

Such as, just making sure that there is always an adequate supply of food and water available,

 

And then putting ones feet up in heaven.

Though Jes did like to hang around with his swarthy Arabian boyfriends....So, not sure that Dad would approve.

Dad was very much an old fashioned, married virgins, type of man.

The wine thing is an interesting reflection of biblical times and society though.

That there should preferably be a ready supply of alcohol rather than of clean water.

But with the fish thing, I expect that Jes and his Dad, were thinking omega three.

Actually, perhaps we're missing a trick here.

A diet of wine and fish.....That was the hidden biblical message.

F**k broccoli.....Was that what Goddo was trying to say?

Does it even mention 5 a day in the Bible?

Or KFC.

Perhaps didn't want to offend all the future veg and chicken farmers.

AHHHHH....It's all becoming clear.

Though they do make references to veal,

And several references to shepherding too.

But defo not Pig farming.

And no references to Coca Cola.

Or Pepsi.

Or Fighter Jets.

Or the U.S.A.

Or a whole lot of other stuff too.

Nice one Doc.

@Poly

Exactly.

Arrogance is a substitute for ignorance,

And certainty in ones own knowledge is confidence,

And confidence might appear to be arrogance,

If one is ignorant and lacks confidence. 

I like the armchair option.

I admire your attention to detail.

Just saying.

Amongst all else,

It was a comment that just stood out.

Not quite like carbon dating or something, whereby one might say 10000 years, plus or minus a hundred years.

But for sure,

It doesn't matter at all.

Nice post too.

@Tarik

Notwithstanding skepticism or scepticism.  (Depending upon ones place of origin)

Piggybacking  multiple cans of worms.

Now there's semantics for you.

Science reaches conclusions, by step by step analysis.

Results always yield a positive conclusion, even if a conclusion does not always satisfy the premise.

Everyone thinks that everyone else lives somewhere else other than here.

Well, not everyone does.

And terror is em,

Largely,

Testosterone fuelled fantasy,

Devolved from the Churches,

Parents,

Schools,

And the playground.

Then there are media generated American stereotypes.

Though when I visited,

People we generally very ordinary and polite.

Just like in the U.K.

Perhaps the media has a tendency to promote the exaggerated vainglorious fringes of society.

Now why would they do that?

Wait 400 years.....Give or take 100.

One reads these threads.

And certain things just jump out at you.

Plus or minus 25%.......Is that a reasonable margin of error?

The theist is an obstinate pseudo-scientist, who will never admit that their premise is fundamentally flawed.

Such are the limitations of the human brain.

Teach your kids non-sense, and the will grow up obstinately believing in non-sense.

And don't forget that I never dismiss the GOD principle.

It's just a floaty about bloke, who f**ks a married virgin and then nails their bastard son to a post for my sins type nonsense, that readily disproves your whacky hypothesis.

Why would a clever tri-omni be this stupid.

Why not a huge non-violent screen in the sky carrying a polite multilingual message.

Saying something like:

This is your GOD here.

Now be sure to be nice to each other,

And please look after the planet.

I'm of now for an indeterminate period of time, to do some creation work elsewhere.

But should you need to get in touch, please call me, as I'm always available on my omnipresence device.

No worship necessary......Just enjoy yourselves.

Regards.

GOD.

Now wouldn't that be a whole lot easier and more sensible.

Rather than flooding the Earth and getting a guy to build a big boat, etc etc.

I'm indifferent with regards the Bible.

It's just a book, variously interpreted, variously translated and variously republished.

The so called word of your particular GOD, probably predates the Bible by a good few hundred years anyway.

So consequently what has been arrived at today is most certainly of later human concoction, with a typical mythological format.

Elements of human reality, juxtaposed with a naive creation hypothesis, 2000 year old social ideology and a smattering of supernatural fantasy thrown in for good measure.

There are just so many reasons why the Bible is not representative of a clever, tri-omni GOD.

In fact, the World is not specifically "round".

It is roughly spherical.

"Round" could imply a flat Earth,

And we wouldn't want to do that.

Well that's how I feel.

Though, in so much as all internal processes are relative to all internal processes,

So in relative terms, feelings become facts and are only distinguishable by adapting the self same internally relative processes.

The rate of material evolution is seemingly exponential, thanks to a select few with the appropriate intellect.

Though for sure, human evolution basically stagnated a long time ago.

And if the dross of humanity want crack pipes, then stick them in a camp and give them crack pipes and all the free crack that they can f**king suck.

The application of genuine compassion is perhaps a good thing.....Though very few would do it unless they could afford to do it.

Ever heard of Arm and Hammer.

Couldn't get more overtly dentally hygienic, even if they rammed  it into your mouth on a brush

And talk about orthodontic conspiracy theory.

Ever wondered what's really going on when they inject your gums with mind altering toxins, and start implanting stuff.

Great answer.

You beat me to it.

Good stuff.

But it's all just your opinion, based on data acquired from a book of myths an legends.

And in my opinion based, also on acquired data, it's as I've just stated.

We both think that we are being wise,

And I think that I am being wiser than you,

Because there has never been a real GOD to verify such stuff.

We are currently  lacking a GODS wisdom.

Depends what they concentrate on.

If they concentrated on vaccinating people, then it shouldn't be much more than an overnighter.

Just pack your tooth brush,

And toothpaste.

Though who knows what sort of toxic, mind control shit they put in toothpaste.

@POLY

Thanks Poly.

Pity that you've adopted the old blocking thing though.

My impression of Lunatic so far.

Jumps to negative conclusions.

OK.

What's what?

I'll just leave this out there.

If that's the choice that some people make, then I fully support them and admire their stoicism

It's not conform or die is it?

It's a case of, if you choose to not conform, be prepared to face the consequences of your own actions.

I reiterate, that I am firmly in support of personal choice in this matter.

Nothing fascist about supporting the freedom of the individual to choose.

No it hasn't.

That decision was rescinded this week.

I think that Conan was saying the same as I said in my initial Zedku to Bernadot.

I am the best thing in the World.

Without me there would be nothing.

There might be you,

But that would no longer be of any  significance to me.

Being fined for breaking a Mandatory Law is commonplace.

And most laws are passed without referendum.

We elect people to make decisions for us....That's the way that most Western Democracies function.

And thanks to enforced childhood vaccination, infant mortality has significantly decreased.

Would you like me to explain how tuberculosis effects the cells.

The basis of human physiology is cellular...everything we input has a level of cellular impact. Even common foodstuffs.

And if you are British it is unlikely that vaccination will become mandatory.....Even for healthcare workers.

And the basis of Covid anxiety, is fear of infection coupled with the human fascination with conspiracy theory.

And for my part, I reiterate that I am all for letting people decide for themselves.

But don't come crawling back to Nanny State when the shit hits the fan.....Because don't forget that they are always conspiring against you.

My Nationality is not a secret.

Yep, I voted against Brexit.

Though I go along with the decision.

In the U.S.A for example, would it be fair if health insurance companies refused to pay out to the unvaccinated?

Tough if it's a case of moral obligation, then why isn't vaccination a moral obligation.

There seems to be two reasonable sides to the argument.