zedvictor4

Muslims deflect to the bible, because Judeo-Christianity is the basis of Islam.

Same basic revelation of GOD, but an altered approach some time in the 7th century. 

The new approach can only be qualified, by deflecting to the old sequences of recorded data.

Everyone is sceptical,

Until science becomes indisputable.

Though there are always those who will  be deliberately sceptical,

Even if the scientific outcome is indisputable.

Flat Earthers,

Or theistic creationists,

For example.

"Sexuality" is just another concept,

Relative to a physiological necessity.

Sex acts are real and as such nature.

Settling down with your boyfriend and getting a puppy is seemingly, inevitable overthink.

And you will understand what you want to understand.....Relative to your need to justify what it is you need to justify.

Sadly, you finish with a sarcastic jibe, that clearly speaks volumes about of your own predicament.

Though I would not be so ungracious as to refer to you as foolish.

So, you put a cross in a box.

But deliberately in the adjacent box,

As an expression of the duality,

Of quantum mechanical disparity.

And the fundamental laws,

Of indeterminate clarity.

And the bastards, misinterpret it,

By making things,

Conveniently inconvenient.

I declare Mark Penn,

An utterly appropriate name.

Genocide is the dark side of the species.

And as I stated, A GOD is a concept.......In the head of the species.

Therefore A GOD can be good, bad or indifferent, relative to what we are led to believe.

Sadly, humanity as a whole, is not a cohesive unit.....So collective data, varies between social sub-groups.

Such is the price of Earthbound intelligence.

Though the UNIVERSE is far greater than an organically coated speck of cosmic dust.

Whether or not material evolution, including species evolution, extending to the evolution of ALTERNATIVE INTELLIGENCE, has any greater significance beyond the constraints of our solar system is yet to be confirmed.

So I will continue to bow in deference to our one true GOD and giver of life....THE SUN.

But, disrespect that which the SUN gives......And it will be capable of genocide on a scale, before unseen.

And I doubt that there is ANOTHER FLOATY ABOUT BLOKE GOD with an off button.

You know.....The one in the story books with the BIG BEARD.....Likes to fuck virgins.....And then Piss off around the universe for what seems like an eternity.....Leaving a poor itinerant carpenter to bring up his bastard son.

OP Issues answered directly.

Your inability to understand.

Is because?

I assumed that you were clever enough.

In fact I still do.

But just in case you're not:

Gay sex is a sociological contrivance, relative to sexual necessity and the constraints of human society.

In that sense Gay Sex is both nature and nurture, but definitely no GOD.

And what we are really discussing is the MORALITY of a sex act, relative to the developed constraints and consequential  taboos of human society.

MORALITY is a judgemental concept, also relative to the developed constraints and consequential taboos of human society.

In short....Intelligence comes with a price.

Or more accurately....Our developed ability to acquire, store, modify and output data, inevitably causes us to overthink.....Hence GOD and  MORALITY, which despite a more liberal Western culture, still inhibits freedom of expression and necessitates interminable justification for a sex act.

Book an adventure then.

And ask whilst you're there.

I was primarily challenging your use of the word authentic.

A scientific conclusion may or may not be authentic.

Similarly though, a scientific conclusion may not be sensible, therefore literally non-sense.

Though that is not to denigrate genuine scientific research, whereby a non -sense conclusion might eventually lead to the establishment of factual data.

Is chin scratching the way forwards?

Or barbers rash?

Philosophy is,

99% overthink,

Due to,

Too much,

Chin scratching.

I'm not sure if authenticity is relevant.

Science could just as easily conclude in authentic nonsense,  as it could in authentic sense.

Whether or not we can distinguish between fact and fantasy is more important.

And unless we understand the science we have no way of deciding, other than the assurance of people who we choose to put our trust in.

I will reiterate,

And probably be ignored.

But the issues of procreational potential,

And recreational possibility,

Get conflated.

And overstated.

Gay sex is a common and long standing,

Recreational activity,

And the outshooting stuff,

Has procreational potential,

Not necessarily essential.

 

But.

Society has developed in such a way,

That we do not  function as we first did,

Such is  the nature of intelligence,

And the development of thoughts,

And inhibitions.

Makes us think

Contrary to instinct.

So Alpha Male,

Fucks the females,

And in between times,

Others do what is necessary,

To relieve those innate,

Stresses.

Perhaps wear dresses.

Though,

Population,

7.9 billion and counting,

So no need to fret,

Yet.

And I'm guessing that,

DL,

Does not Label as Alpha.

And,

PS. Mustn't forget,

GOD is, a mind set.

Regards,

Zed

Crafting bollocks.

Love that expression.

I will aim to utilise it in future.

GOD is a concept relative to a concept.

And so therefore can be conceptually genocidal or not, relative to a particular data construct.

And if one cherry picks extreme bits of human society, one will find stuff contrary to our own conditioning, that we can classify as unlikeable.

And for sure, Middle Eastern storytellers have got a lot to answer for.

Not a lot we can do, other than teach our own kids the facts of the matter.

Best ask Kim.

They had their reasons.

Reasons that we would probably find unreasonable.

But not reasons that should necessarily be unexpected, given what we know about North Korea.

Do you know the reason?

There is indoctrination into everything.

It's a fact of ongoing data transfer, relative to the evolved ability to acquire store and utilise data,

And therefore a fact of life.

And one persons indoctrinated morality, is another persons indoctrinated immorality.

Such is human social development at this moment in Earth time.

And what will happen in the next two thousand years, is what will happen.

And might worry us for a limited period.

R.I.P.  Otto Warmbier.

He went looking for an adventure.

And certainly found one.

There's education,

And then there's unnecessary data transfer.

There are a hundred and one places to have an adventure.

I would suggest that everyone does what they do, without knowing why they are actually doing it.

The real truth is unknowable.

You only seem concerned with the machinations of human society.

Whereas I was attempting to look at a bigger universal picture.......One that involves humanity, but might also exceed humanity.

Korean society screams paranoia.

So why they do what they do is all relative.

We can become complacent with own our conditioned sensibilities, and also expect everyone else to behave as we do.

What motivated Otto to go to North Korea.

Whiskey.

Is like religion.

We're told that it's fantastic stuff,

And some people choose to belief it.

But in reality it's hideously untrue.

They were perhaps motivated by their inherent paranoia.

The notion of Soul,

Is basically a coping strategy.

Nonetheless,

The difference between a living organic mass and a dead organic mass,

Might be suggestive of residual energy.

Or might just indicate an organic device that ran out of steam.

As Nations go,

North Korea is a bit of a nuthouse to say the least,

So not a place to go souvenir hunting, during your gap year.

"Why" is largely irrelevant'

Other than why go there.

Should have gone south,

To meet sensible  Koreans.

Scriptures are bits of parchment or paper, scribbled on by people.

Historically interesting,

But factually questionable, to say the least.

Extremely well stated Benjamin.

But consider a universal intent, where methodology only utilises organic intelligence, rather than is all about organic intelligence. 

Perhaps it's just not necessary for everyone to be aware of the truth.

As long as human society functions in a way that progresses material evolution, then maybe we shouldn't concern ourselves so much with the quality of trivial day to day mass data transfer.

Maybe everything is actually functioning just as it should be. 

Accurate data is a need to know thing.

And very few people possess the need to know thing.

LOL.

Mad as a badger as we say.

Are you taking this seriously?

I will take some along to the S & M club this afternoon.

And some when I go dogging this evening.

See above.

All Motherhoods are single.

Evil is simply a label applied,

To not nice stuff that people do,

To each other,

Counter to the concept of niceness,

Usually relative to physical or mental anguish,

As in pain,

And suffering.

No GOD actually required.

Unless one has been appropriately conditioned of course.

Then the World's your Oyster,

So to speak.

Poor Oyster,

Eaten alive,

Swallowed into the seething,

Gastric depths,

Of digestive hell.

Pure evil.

And,

Eternal philosophy.

As I keep saying.

A GOD......As in any eternal floaty about humanesque idea, exists only as a transferable data concept.

So obviously no actual eternal  floaty about bloke, known as yet.

But certainly an ongoing idea relative to an evolved  earthbound, complex organism.

Nonetheless we cannot rule out the possibility of an even more complex,  evolved universal system.

Which could be referred to as GOD, or BOB, or BOOM.

Though GOD or BOB or BOOM must come either before or after something even more profound....Namely, nothingness.

When considering everything,

We tend to disregard nothingness.

Apprehended poachers swiftly admonished by the Tanzanian judiciary, received substantial financial penalties. Ringleaders were handed custodial sentences.

The cat got of the mat, the dog got of the log, for it was tea time.

Backwards relative to my journey.

Christians can say anything the want to, if they possess the relative data.

Though I said GOD principle, rather than God,

As in a possible but unknown purpose,

And not as in a floaty about bloke of relatively recent, Middle Eastern folk tales.

Studies will either prove something true or untrue.......As in evaluating hypotheses. (See  whiteflame)

And a predetermined outcome is a predetermined outcome....Doesn't matter what the outcome is.

Sorry sadolite, but this is a stupid thing to say.

Science is essentially, the process of studying.

Haven't schools always been governed?

By people who assume power and responsibility.

Or did kids just turn up one day of their own free will?

Not sure that dinosaur life was harmonious.

Sounds like anarchy.

Not sure how anarchy would pan out.

Though if your solution to government is internet based anarchy,

Aren't you actually, just transferring governmental responsibility to media corporations.

At the end of the day, it's just shadowy people assuming power and responsibility,

And the rest of the people being either happy or unhappy to go along with things.

A bit like what we currently do.

Though it could be argued that the current situation is somewhat more open to question, than the shadowy world of algorithms.

Belief is not the same as internal data storage.

You are as aware of atheism as I am of theism.

So on this basis I can similarly say, that everyone doesn't believe in GOD.

Though I would not be so arrogant as to say GOD.

But rather, A GOD principle.

Though to be fair, in conclusion you do repent for this sin.

And a sixth view might say that there might or might not be a GOD principle, but there is currently no way of knowing.

And a seventh view might say that GOD is a cheese and pickle sandwich in a motorway service station.

And so on.

Such are the variable possibilities of the unknown.

How does one consider an average word?

The Rhinoceros became isolated and overwhelmingly exhausted by the incessant activities of poachers.

The Cat sat on the mat and the Dog sat on a log.

Well , just read your dictionary Doc.

But basically, the God principle is an internal construct, collectively and variously used to represent something that cannot actually be understood.

The GOD principle has been around for as long as Hominids have been able to internally formulate, store and remember more complex sequences of data.

So not just for two thousand years.

Despite what you have been conditioned to accept Doc, the GOD of your BIBLE, is no more than a made up character, in one of many representative creation stories.

For me the GOD principle only represents that which might afford the Universe a purpose.

But of course there maybe no purpose.

Such is the basic unanswerable conundrum Doc.

And the Virgin Mary, Jesus and his absentee father are only data in a comparatively recent book, subsequently transferred even more recently to inside your head.

Concepts Doc.

@ POLYTHEIST-WITCH

What's your problem Poly.

You're currently displaying very discriminatory and isolationist tendencies.

On a discussion website one should be able to discuss openly and tolerantly, with anyone from anywhere.

Just as Intel was doing.

Why do you feel that Intel's question was a personal attack against you?

I would love to see you snort.

And the reason why there are so many religious discussions, is because it is the most controversial topic.

Topics such as abortion, sexuality and politics vie for second place.

Though such secondary topics can easily be woven into religious discussion.

For example:

Does a GOD exist and does it condone abortion?

Does it condone homosexuality and other sexual variations,

And is it Republican or Democrat or Chinese?

Bad is a concept relative to the concept of good.

People do things is the bottom line.

Some things we like,

And somethings we don't like.

And some people like things that we don't like,

And some people don't like things that we do like.

And in the same vein,

A miracle is just something that happens,

Not by magic,

But because it can.

Miracle is a concept relative to actual possibility.

It was just a parody.

So really makes no difference to me who's president.

As long as they don't become a megalomaniacal parody.

I won't be storming the Capitol, that's for sure.

I'll stay at home and watch the TV.

Guessed so.

Of course,

A lot of the above is euphemistic.

And I've exceeded the necessity for such euphemy.

Type A as many times in a minute as you can.

And I bet that you can type more than 116.

Then try it with DISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM.

And I bet that you can't type 97.