zedvictor4

See.

Metaphor,

Is,

Good.

So how did you end up as you.

Nature or nurture?

And too late,

I had two.

Who are the inevitable product of their upbringing 

Obviously I think it.

Are you saying that you don't think?

Thinking describes the whole process of internal data manipulation.

And one either believes, or doesn't believe,

Or is perhaps apathetic.

@Tarik

Semitism is a misnomer.

As not all Semites are Jews,

And not all Jews are Semites.

I'm thinking that you probably need a punctuation mark between vax and idc.

Otherwise, what is the vax idc that ZOG says?

Nonetheless.......Perhaps there is an element of truth in the ZOG hypothesis.

Like buttons are heart warming.

HaHa.

You only think that they go off topic , because you don't know how to analyse my style of data output.

Rather than just say....This, so that because.

I like to add a bit of poetic intrigue, satire and metaphor.

It cums with age and sexual experience.

All kids are molested and abused.

it's what's known as,

Parenting,

And Schooling.

Teach your kid that everything depends upon a supernatural floaty about bloke.

And they will grow up suffering from the effects of such mental abuse,

Probably for the rest of their life.

Look at Doc for example.

Only joking Doc.

Don't mention the Uyghurs.

So in terms of intervention.

Limestone rock for example, formed from the remains of aquatic invertebrates.

Is this natural or synthetic rock developed by sea creatures?

And the bread and the cheese I mentioned earlier.....Natural or synthetic food?

Why do you think that I am insane?

Is it because I am older and wiser, and have had sex with women?

LOL.

No doubt.

There's another thread somewhere, which considers what is and isn't natural.

And my line on climate change, is the same as my line on nature.

If humanity by it's actions, affects the global climate, then that is a natural event.

I was discussing racism and the holocaust.

What were you discussing?.....Swimming lessons.

Didn't anyone tell you about masturbation?

Though most folks work it out for themselves.

Getting out "sexual frustrations" is a five minute job,

Or even quicker depending upon the ratio of hand speed to lucidity of accompanying internal data appreciation.

In fact at your age, the recurrence  of sexual frustration is so often, as to render self abuse as the  primary outlet.

Though you may be older than one imagines.

Nonetheless:

Heteronormativity is a concept relative to procreational sex.

But where sex becomes simply a recreational release of "sexual frustrations".....Then there are a variety of recognised options available.

Not that records have been kept for so long......(Globally, about 140 years).

What was it like during the Triassic period for example?

Though in the end, a fucking great asteroid turned out to be more of a problem.

Racism is a collective term for a 101 other things that might  lead us to conclude, that someone else is perceivably and therefore unagreeably different.

Basically the analysis of data, that is contrary to our own established database.

So I prefer to define the inappropriate epithet "racism"...... As acquired intolerance based upon perceivable differences.

And contrary to what we might be expected to accept these days, intolerance is always a two way issue.

It's just that those who are/were seen as coming of worse are always remember as the poor victims, and those that are/were successful are remembered as the evil oppressors. 

Unless we are taught tolerance and equality, there is a strong chance that we won't think tolerance and equality.

And the tolerant will suppress the intolerant....Because the tolerant, are not tolerant of the intolerant.

Or similarly..... Because the intolerant tolerant are intolerant of the intolerant who are not tolerant.

Social evolution is a slow process.

How on Earth would you know what a GODS standards were?

Your bible and it's subsequent interpretations are all human standards.

We have no proof that anyone has ever discussed standards with a GOD.

Your illogic is based upon one giant assumption, that a GOD might have standards. 

Which is based upon the even bigger assumption, that there is a GOD who might consider standards.

I suppose that depends upon how one chooses to apply the term natural.

I insist, that everything that occurs within the universe is natural.....Therefore everything is natural.

Some like to suggest that anything man made is unnatural.....But I disagree.

Our acquired ability to manipulate matter is no different to that of a bee making honey.

Otherwise, is a cheese sandwich natural?

Thing is.

As far as they knew.

Their GOD,

Was only omniscient,

At the time,

Of going to press.

Just similar paranoia and megalomania.

But maybe there has been a certain amount of social evolution in Russia since Stalin.

Let's hope so.

If humans manipulate matter, then that is an evolutionary consequence of human evolution.

@Tarik.

Sorry to interupt,

But just needed to pull you up on something.

GODS are not objective.

As I've told you before......Everything is subjective.

Because the processes of data analysis and data production all occur internally.

Stuff might float around out there,

But data processes all occur inside your head.

The GOD concept is an internal data construct, relative to a subjective appreciation of what we assume/perceive to exist externally.

Not forgetting that perception is a wholly internal process of data appreciation.

Sin is a concept relative to biblical bollocks.

And people have been fiddling with each others bollocks and bits, ever since they realised it was temporarily satisfying.

Russians are Russians.

And Putin started with good intentions, but has descended into the typical old age megalomaniacal paranoia that most Russian leaders suffer from.

We must now await his demise, and see who the next one will be.

Do you have a big document?

Everything that exists or occurs within the universe is natural.

Therefore everything is natural,

Including beaver dams.

Your problem is perhaps your addiction to media driven culture.

The thing is.

People have evolved to fuck.

So don't believe everything that little device of yours tells you.

Well done.

Hope it all works out for you.

Trouble is.

Pounding and taking ass is real.

And a GOD isn't.

And Christianity is make believe.

Which,

Makes Gays realists,

And Christians fantasists.

Just saying.

The climate changes on a daily basis.

Perhaps even more frequently than that.

And perhaps over a longer period of time too.

Belief is unnecessary.

As is a chosen political club.

And I would never pay for an argument,

Anecdotal or otherwise.

Incel hey chudman

No wonder, If that's your way,

Of breaking the ice.

Good to see you back.

I cannot comment on the above.

As I am unable to comment on the above.

But wait.

I think I remember suggesting to you some time back,

That 4D space is a concept.

Muslims deflect to the bible, because Judeo-Christianity is the basis of Islam.

Same basic revelation of GOD, but an altered approach some time in the 7th century. 

The new approach can only be qualified, by deflecting to the old sequences of recorded data.

Everyone is sceptical,

Until science becomes indisputable.

Though there are always those who will  be deliberately sceptical,

Even if the scientific outcome is indisputable.

Flat Earthers,

Or theistic creationists,

For example.

"Sexuality" is just another concept,

Relative to a physiological necessity.

Sex acts are real and as such nature.

Settling down with your boyfriend and getting a puppy is seemingly, inevitable overthink.

And you will understand what you want to understand.....Relative to your need to justify what it is you need to justify.

Sadly, you finish with a sarcastic jibe, that clearly speaks volumes about of your own predicament.

Though I would not be so ungracious as to refer to you as foolish.

So, you put a cross in a box.

But deliberately in the adjacent box,

As an expression of the duality,

Of quantum mechanical disparity.

And the fundamental laws,

Of indeterminate clarity.

And the bastards, misinterpret it,

By making things,

Conveniently inconvenient.

I declare Mark Penn,

An utterly appropriate name.

Genocide is the dark side of the species.

And as I stated, A GOD is a concept.......In the head of the species.

Therefore A GOD can be good, bad or indifferent, relative to what we are led to believe.

Sadly, humanity as a whole, is not a cohesive unit.....So collective data, varies between social sub-groups.

Such is the price of Earthbound intelligence.

Though the UNIVERSE is far greater than an organically coated speck of cosmic dust.

Whether or not material evolution, including species evolution, extending to the evolution of ALTERNATIVE INTELLIGENCE, has any greater significance beyond the constraints of our solar system is yet to be confirmed.

So I will continue to bow in deference to our one true GOD and giver of life....THE SUN.

But, disrespect that which the SUN gives......And it will be capable of genocide on a scale, before unseen.

And I doubt that there is ANOTHER FLOATY ABOUT BLOKE GOD with an off button.

You know.....The one in the story books with the BIG BEARD.....Likes to fuck virgins.....And then Piss off around the universe for what seems like an eternity.....Leaving a poor itinerant carpenter to bring up his bastard son.

OP Issues answered directly.

Your inability to understand.

Is because?

I assumed that you were clever enough.

In fact I still do.

But just in case you're not:

Gay sex is a sociological contrivance, relative to sexual necessity and the constraints of human society.

In that sense Gay Sex is both nature and nurture, but definitely no GOD.

And what we are really discussing is the MORALITY of a sex act, relative to the developed constraints and consequential  taboos of human society.

MORALITY is a judgemental concept, also relative to the developed constraints and consequential taboos of human society.

In short....Intelligence comes with a price.

Or more accurately....Our developed ability to acquire, store, modify and output data, inevitably causes us to overthink.....Hence GOD and  MORALITY, which despite a more liberal Western culture, still inhibits freedom of expression and necessitates interminable justification for a sex act.

Book an adventure then.

And ask whilst you're there.

I was primarily challenging your use of the word authentic.

A scientific conclusion may or may not be authentic.

Similarly though, a scientific conclusion may not be sensible, therefore literally non-sense.

Though that is not to denigrate genuine scientific research, whereby a non -sense conclusion might eventually lead to the establishment of factual data.

Is chin scratching the way forwards?

Or barbers rash?

Philosophy is,

99% overthink,

Due to,

Too much,

Chin scratching.

I'm not sure if authenticity is relevant.

Science could just as easily conclude in authentic nonsense,  as it could in authentic sense.

Whether or not we can distinguish between fact and fantasy is more important.

And unless we understand the science we have no way of deciding, other than the assurance of people who we choose to put our trust in.

I will reiterate,

And probably be ignored.

But the issues of procreational potential,

And recreational possibility,

Get conflated.

And overstated.

Gay sex is a common and long standing,

Recreational activity,

And the outshooting stuff,

Has procreational potential,

Not necessarily essential.

 

But.

Society has developed in such a way,

That we do not  function as we first did,

Such is  the nature of intelligence,

And the development of thoughts,

And inhibitions.

Makes us think

Contrary to instinct.

So Alpha Male,

Fucks the females,

And in between times,

Others do what is necessary,

To relieve those innate,

Stresses.

Perhaps wear dresses.

Though,

Population,

7.9 billion and counting,

So no need to fret,

Yet.

And I'm guessing that,

DL,

Does not Label as Alpha.

And,

PS. Mustn't forget,

GOD is, a mind set.

Regards,

Zed

Crafting bollocks.

Love that expression.

I will aim to utilise it in future.

GOD is a concept relative to a concept.

And so therefore can be conceptually genocidal or not, relative to a particular data construct.

And if one cherry picks extreme bits of human society, one will find stuff contrary to our own conditioning, that we can classify as unlikeable.

And for sure, Middle Eastern storytellers have got a lot to answer for.

Not a lot we can do, other than teach our own kids the facts of the matter.

Best ask Kim.

They had their reasons.

Reasons that we would probably find unreasonable.

But not reasons that should necessarily be unexpected, given what we know about North Korea.

Do you know the reason?

There is indoctrination into everything.

It's a fact of ongoing data transfer, relative to the evolved ability to acquire store and utilise data,

And therefore a fact of life.

And one persons indoctrinated morality, is another persons indoctrinated immorality.

Such is human social development at this moment in Earth time.

And what will happen in the next two thousand years, is what will happen.

And might worry us for a limited period.

R.I.P.  Otto Warmbier.

He went looking for an adventure.

And certainly found one.