zedvictor4

Hey...It must be an age thing.

Regards.

I've never had any objections to theist presumptions.

I simply just disagree with theist presumptions.

More assumptions I suppose.

Is virtue signalling really worth caring about?

I support Ukraine as practically as I am able too.

Like loading boxes into my car and taking them to a collection point.

Which I couldn't have done if I had dumped all the gas.

Well, I've no idea where my particular tank of gas comes from, and furthermore, I wouldn't be so immediately impractical.

Though if oil supplies were to run low, I would put up with the consequences.

Practically speaking we have provided essential supplies  for Ukraine which should already be in Poland as we speak.

I think that it's all too easy to be flippant about what's going on in Ukraine, especially from positions of relative safety.

And on behalf of the Ukrainian people, a big thanks to the American people for the billions of dollars worth of military hardware.

Let's hope that the Ukrainian army gets the chance to use it effectively.

So you feel that you have the authority to speak on behalf of the people of Chile?

Exaggeration, misrepresentation and propaganda, parrot fashion.

Because it has always had an all consuming obsession with the sex lives of it's adherents and others.

As exemplified by your good self constantly going on about homosexuality and paedophilia. (Practices that have been proven to be rife within the R.C. church for centuries.). And always worrying about what other people do with their GOD given organs of pleasure.

This is undoubtedly an inherent data set, and therefore can rightly be described as inherently perverse.

Try Ornithology Doc.....It  might be a slightly less stressful hobby, and  stop you constantly thinking about people having sex.

One assumes, as I'm not sure that the process is yet possible, that internally the electro-chemical sequences that produces internal imagery will be able to be replicated externally, or down loaded from the brain to device. Sounds like science fiction, but probably not far away.

In essence no different to technological data transfer systems conversion of a digital sequence into a perceivable image. So the distinction would be the same as the distinction between digital processes and what is projected onto a monitor.

And one might also assume that the process will be reversible. Uploading data from device to brain, as both storable data and internally perceivable imagery.

If and when we do manage to achieve these processes, the mystery that is the human mind will have been unravelled.

But for now we can continue to wonder or not about a GOD.

A. Is there a floaty about bloke that does magic?

B. Is the universe purposeful or not?

C. Can we be sure of anything?

Questions Questions Questions Deb.

For sure.

Doc's data.

One of 7.9 billion separately contained bundles of varying data.

And like all good Catholics you ignore the controversies of the Church, and pretend that years and years of child abuse never happened.

Perhaps Catholicism is inherently perverted too.

Perhaps the human species is inherently perverted.

Though from that we can extend to the conclusion, that inherent perversion must be inherent normality.

And therefore I reiterate that best course of action, is the Catholic approach....Ignore and be content with yourself.

I agree that processes are seemingly one and the same. Call them thoughts, call them electro-chemical data processing.

So we can detect the process, can we project the image externally? 

I don't see why not.

Well, the argument that "atheism is irrational", is basically just a theistic dig at atheists.

Nonetheless, if we break the processes down to a base level of electro-chemical function, we can therefore question the rationality of all such processes, labelled  theistic or atheistic or anything I suppose.

Labelling outcomes wont alter the base reality of the argument. Which is, GODS are not actually known to be anything other than an internal electro-chemical process.

As of course, are NO GODS.

So one processes and produces outcomes relative to acquired and stored data. So management/control of such processes is therefore a facet of one and the same process and it's acquired parameters......Self control or not, as might be judged.

People are always dissatisfied.

Perhaps they always expect too much.

@Tarik

Such is the dilemma Tarik.

One cannot be certain of something  that one cannot be certain of.

Trouble is, Rulers bid and Lackies do.

A Ruler cannot suppress a populace on their own.

Everyone becomes culpable.

Save for the brave few that speak out.

Yep.

Arse talking

He's good at that.

Nice of you to say so.

Paper money is just the stuff that still gets used sometimes  for local transactions.

I'm pretty sure that the global banking industry has learnt how to use computers by now.

Paper money will eventually go altogether......We're just in a transitional phase.

Your argument is a bit trivial and irrelevant.

Well. 

East is east of east and west is west of west, or east is east of west and west is west of east.

Completely depends upon you Doc, and where you choose to view the situation from.

And at the time Ireland was pretty much third world.

And I wasn't necessarily referring to your direct ancestors, but generally to those that invaded and conquered the land mass known as the U.S.A.

So your third world ancestors were welcomed with open arms?

Now, you've got plenty of space over there for a few more, so do unto other Earthlings  as other Earthlings did unto yours.

Oh and just to forewarn you....You might find that not all Earthlings exactly resemble those in your little tribal bubble.

But in the main, all that they want is the same sort of opportunities that your ancestors sought.

So it would be hypocritical to deny them, wouldn't it?

You were just not describing the U.S. there Doc.

The U.S is about as modern and multicultural a Nation as it's possible to get.

You exist in a very small niche. Now loosely associated with a Green past.

And distinct boundaries are being rapidly eroded by technology Doc.

Well that's all very well and good, but such studies can only be taken at face value. And one can only assume that they are not biased studies.

If you interpret my consistent point of view correctly you will understand that I am not necessarily an advocate of either current liberal attitudes towards sexuality, or same sex parenting.

I'm just tolerant, and content with myself and my social niche....And I just don't worry about how others might achieve sexual satisfaction, or the possible implications of their sexual activities and associations.

In terms of responsibility and intentional abuse I would very much doubt the veracity of the information you provided....Well certainly from a British perspective. Perhaps the U.S's approach to the social care of minors, is lax by virtue of the complexity of the law and other influences.

As for smoking related problems....Well perhaps less people smoke these days.

But I can't see people giving up sex any time soon.

And unfortunately as ever Doc, and not doubting your integrity for a moment. You nonetheless are still prepared to put a great deal of faith in a church still marred by the sexual indiscretions of some of it's former leaders.

A church that clearly repressed sex to the point of perversion.

Perhaps it's better therefore that we're all open, honest and tolerant of sexual behaviour, which after all is an inherent gift of creation.

Well obviously from my point of view the dilemma is easily fixable.

In so much as a biblical GOD has never been proven to exist.

In this exchange, I'm just questioning your contradictory faith and assertions.

"God is infallible" yet it's imperfect creation "stuffs up"....So who's fault is that?

It's clearly the fault of a fallible GOD, for imperfectly creating.

And a GOD that 's rather keen to pass the buck.

"God is the ultimate authority. He is the Law. He wrote the Law."

Sort of reminds me of something.......Despotism is one word for it.

He f**ks up peoples lives and the people are the sinners, because he says so.

And you would worship a despot.....Also reminds me of something.

And to the last point the answer is no, because there is no known answer.

Your solution....Blind faith in a fantastical ideology is simply what it is.....A fantastical solution based upon blind faith.

And "this is how the Bible describes God"......Well stories describe characters.....You're stating the obvious.

Doesn't mean that they are real though.

And the Roman occupation of the "Holy Land" might have produced a martyr named Jesus, who died for transgressing the Law.

But we can be no more sure of this than we can be of the existence of a GOD.

Can you actually prove otherwise.

I would suggest that pretending not to understand, so as to deflect from the logic of my argument, can rightly be regarded as strawman.

Nonetheless, if a GOD is fallible and does not take responsibility for the outcomes of it's decisions and actions, then why should a human have any faith in it?

Open borders is the reason for you Doc.

Well that and brutally oppressing the indigene.

Sort of typical ongoing human behaviour I suppose.

We are all variously hued Earthlings, Bros.

No real East or West, they are just imagination too.

You discriminators you.

Who would have me believe that Orange is the one true colour.

Oh William you Lowland Traitor.

For sure...And the depths of clear distillation suck the life blood of sanity.

And benign eleven twelve thirteen as they are  one two and three,

Sun cast shadow beneath the broadest of horizons.

Bunny hops beneath and expelled clusters reconsumed lifeblood green and black

And man's travesty is the shit of his existence, more beyond the oozing sludge of his squat pile

But that which sucks the lifeblood out of air.

And such that Merlin Dracule Jesus demand attention span exceeding, suck too the lifeblood of sanity.

The clear distillation that Sun lifeblood giver shall reconsume all tales.

Leaving nothing but the bleached boned remnants of bird butchered corpses.

Sort of an OK post, albeit in your "Be nice to people, assholes" style....Until the last statement that is.

Perhaps you should have aimed the post at white rednecks wearing red baseball caps.

I think that it is those types, that have a tendency to oppose immigrants.

Or is that just a darker skin, lighter skin thing?

We certainly know that the Orange GOD has a propensity for Eastern European women.

And "Russia is evil" .......How do you fully qualify this statement.

Russia being a vast landmass with a population of some 146 million individuals.

Yep.

Sort of a sledgehammer to crack a nut study.

But a conditioned theist still wouldn't listen to reason.

Voluntarily reprogramming/adjusting the organic computer is a Catch 22 dilemma for theists.

Surely by now,  they must actually know deep down, that they are reiterating nonsense.

Homosexuality is only worried about by those that worry about it.

It does seem that you are somewhat prepossessed by other peoples sexual proclivities.....Which in itself is a tad perverse.

We resort to Rugby Football these days.

Nonetheless, this thread is somewhat childish.

Still not the repossessors fault.

True.

Russia made money exporting oil and gas and we were all happy.

Now were not happy, because of the Ukraine crisis.

And blaming anything other than Vladimir Putin is stupid.

It's just not an argument about fuel demands and Green Energy evolution.

It's about backward thinking old style Soviet ideology and paranoia, from an aging despot.

I read that article.

If the finance company admitted fault after the event, then the repossessor was still going about their legitimate business.

Assaulting the repossessor was unwarranted and illegal.

So where's all that oil you need going to come from?

And how would  not buying oil have stopped the Russians in their tracks?

Russians have got all the armour and fuel that they need to keep their tracks going.

It's the U.S. that needs the oil....Because as you say, you are not energy independent.

And Green energy is just not a relevant issue.

You are making stupid arguments for the sake of stupid arguments.

And #43

Your words.

Neither mine nor a Russian dude's.

If a GOD creates and is omni-everything.

Then it would be logical to suggest that everything is as a GOD planned it, or that a GODS plans were fallible.

And you're picking and choosing, but all four adjectives would apply.

Though if a GODS creation fails and throws doubt onto their omni-credentials, why are mere humans sinners?

Everything is either the fault of A GOD or not.

A picking and choosing GOD, is an unreliable and untrustworthy GOD.

Blaming humanity, for a GODS own errors of judgement and creation, is downright selfish.

When did I "blame Putin for Americas weakness".

It's you that perceives American weakness.

I blame Putin for the ongoing catastrophe that is Ukraine.

So in your mind what should Joe have done differently?

Same old dead Russian cannon fodder too.

Such is war Russian style.

The folly and the temporary fall of man for sure.

But Russia could have sold oil and not invaded Ukraine.

Wouldn't that have been an easier option?

Putin's NATO fears are just fantasy, that fuels his paranoia and his nostalgia for the old days of the USSR.

No idea what you're on about now guvner.

You seem somewhat confused.

You're back tracking on your Biden and oil argument.

Now agreeing that that the U.S's insatiable oil appetite is what it is.

And Russian misinformation is to always be expected.

And Green Energy?

The bottom line is that Russia just  invaded the sovereign territory of Ukraine.

Essentially one mans war.

And you're trying to make political gain out of it.....I think.

So What would Donald have done?

In your head Doc.

Not in everyone's head though.

Younger generations regard today as normal.

You're just stuck in the past.

Very much like Putin.

Same old ridiculous argument.

The fall of  Ukraine.

Is a direct result of the selfishness and paranoia of one person, namely Putin.

The U.S's insatiable desire for oil, is the result of the U.S. peoples insatiable desire for oil.

Trying to Blame Joe Biden  for the actions of Putin is a ridiculous argument.

But no more than one expects from narrow minded conservatives, trying to make political gain out of an ensuing humanitarian catastrophe.

Nah.......Really?

So what about the bloke and the big floating Zoo?

Assaulting people is unethical.

Especially assaulting someone trying to go about their legitimate business.

Your pathetic squabble about a car is not comparable with slavery and the holocaust.

It's sort of an amazing coincidence that there was all of this black stuff hidden down there waiting to power a specific phase of material evolution.

Intelligent design some might say.

Not that I'm suggesting that it was really necessary to nail a bloke to a post for my sins.

Though I am currently a firm advocate of evolutionary destiny.

And I'm still judicially out on whether the human species will be along for the whole journey.

You wouldn't expect an Omnibloke to need a book.

He should at least have a smartphone.

But hey...Smartphones in 4283

In a museum maybe.

Somewhere in another Solar system.

A virtual museum though.

I wonder if GODDO will come have a look.

I doubt it.

I think that he got lost.

Dodgy Sat-Nav.

You also have people who thought that Trump was cool.

Americans still dream.

Whilst you have a finance agreement in place the vehicle remains the property of the finance company. Who can repossess said vehicle at any time.

Legally, it is not your car.

So as long as the random dude was repossessing said vehicle as directed by and on behalf of the finance company.....Then said random dude was not stealing your car.

They were legally, repossessing the property of the finance company....Irrespective of the any mistake that might have occurred.

The bottom line is, that violence was not justifiable.

A paranoid maniacal despot invades the sovereign territory of the Ukraine, in a fashion not seen since the last paranoid maniacal European despot invaded Czechoslovakia in 1939.

And you make it out to be a Green Energy issue.

The only similarity that there is with U.S motoring...Is that you're a dipstick.

Trump supporter then.