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Entertaining and well acted satirical sketch.

Maths class seemed essential to the plot.

American history is pretty concise 250 to 450 years, depending upon where one chooses to start.

And so inextricably linked with European history.

So I'm not sure why you think that American history is such a mystery.

Never sure if you're replying to me Poly.

Perhaps you could tap the reply button if you are.

Should be occasionally expected though Doc.

Ontological Argument.....Not to be taken seriously.

What I'm suggesting Doc.

Is

If we tolerated each others moral expectancies.

It might solve a whole lot of unnecessary hassle.

After all no moral point of view can actually  be known to be correct.

For sure Doc.

Look at Afghanistan now.

Taliban V Isis.

Never one big happy family.

And of course, the Taliban are now our mates again.

Never said you were.

I'm what would be generally regarded as atheist.

And although I think that theistic belief is a bit daft.....I'm not "against" it.

it's just how some people have developed.

I'm not scaly.

As in fish like.

Though I scored 10

And Women are disadvantaged by the practicality of their urinary function.

I'm sure that Poly would have scored 9 otherwise.

For sure Stephen.

And I'm pretty certain that Black Africans enslaved Black Africans.

And White Europeans enslaved White Europeans.

And move on.

As I'm sure the majority of our youth are doing.

And I'm proud of our diverse society here in the U.K. 

One World

One People.

Have a good day too Stephen.

And in my opinion the term Veteran has  become a sad reflection of human society.

Ex Soldier formally employed by the State.

Get a job, move on.

Stop making a song and dance.

And don't expect me to be impressed.

Veterans of WW2, were the last to deserve real praise for their service to Country and freedom.

One World nation makes loads of sense Doc.

It's just that humans are far from sensible.

And other tree based names.

Though the above is a good perspective of the hypothetical Christian GOD principle.

I think what you actually mean Doc.

Is.

They want their version of a moral code.

A version that you have become conditioned to agree with.

The other side think in the the same way of course.

But slightly differently relative to their conditioned moral expectancies.

Intolerance of each other is the hypocrisy Doc.

Especially in the Land of the Free......(He laughs)

It's the Land of Us and Them now Doc.

Biden too old for sure.

But nowhere near as amusing.

And in my opinion, pulling out of Afghanistan was a masterstroke.

Otherwise it's still Republicans who are the most entertaining.

Gaetz for instance, is that guy human or hybrid...Fantastic film baddy though.

Good answer.

Perhaps we should be paid to have the vaccine....Keep the money out of the pockets of fat cat lawyers.

Well......You actually mean the moment that the Orange Guy walked in.

And for sure, we were suitably entertained for the next four years.

Though the finale was less light hearted and more dark comedy.....Rudy G deserves an Oscar.

Inflation is the nature of the system.

Well the general focus used to be the Slave Trade.....But now it's roughly the period between 1950 and the present. 

Migration and social evolution has always been difficult.

And different sides of the equation had a tendency to only see their own side of the equation....Which was to be expected.

Intolerance is a two sided state of mind.....Though unfortunately were expected to accept that it has only ever been one sided.

Myths are developed and recorded human exaggerations Poly.

Just like shaman.

And spirit realms etc.

But what ever floats ones boat.

And I like the new avatar.

I've a penchant for those sort of kiddies picture book images.

No, an MGB is a classic British Sports Car.

Top of the morning to ya Doc.

It's all word play Trade.

Blah blah for sure.

Tell the gullible that they must repent and they will.

From almost total nihilism to the acceptance of a GOD principle, is a big compromise.

And saying sorry is not quite the same as the religious concept of repentance.....As you well know.

I would agree.

But unpredictably predictable is  a completely different kettle of fish to; predictably unpredictable, which was the phrase that Trade used.

I would suggest that to find something obvious, implies that something is logical.

Predictably unpredictable also implies a certain level of logical understanding.

Nonetheless...What is the difference between predictably unpredictable and predictably predictable.

So I would further suggest that if someone is predictably unpredictable, then they are also predictably predictable.

In so much as their unpredictability is predictable.

And GODS can represent a million things.

And the notion of repentance doesn't register with me at all.

Did Faux reincarnate as 949havoc?

I'm not so sure Stephen.

How seriously hate crime against "White" people in the U.K would be regarded.....Would depend upon the  ethnic origin of the "White" person.

We're currently going through a sort of payback phase.

And of course, gender would also be an important factor.

Good.

I'm pleased that you find my output obvious.

That implies that my output  is logical and therefore expressed accurately.

As I suggested previously.......You seem to have developed a more pragmatic approach to ideological issues.

The measure can only be my database and how it manages information.

Everything at some point must be input and assessed.

You need to clarify that statement.

Because as it stands, it could be contradictory.

To be honest,  logical consistency is missing.

Of course, no one is a Muslim as no one is a Christian.

We are all human beings and apply various labels to ourselves, relative to inherited packages of data.

A lot of which emanated from a time of religious fervour and ideology that was extremely popular a couple of thousand years ago.

The machinations of ongoing human migration saw/sees the regional development of various schools of religious thought.

All really based upon the premise, that if you teach your children nonsense, then they will likely as not grow up believing in nonsense.

Well stated Poly.

I regard and assess data and output as I see fit.

The imagination is boundless.

So replace MGB with Gandalf the Grey.

And:

6. Therefore Gandalf the Grey exists.

Easy Peasy Doc.

The existence of thoughts is an interesting thought for sure.

Nontological Argument

1. It is not possible that a Maximally Great Being exists

2. If it is not possible that an MGB exists, then an MGB doesn't exist in any possible world.

3. If an MGB doesn't exist in any possible world, then it doesn't.

4. If an MGB doesn't exist anywhere, then it doesn't.

5. Ditto.

6.Therefore Ditto.

MGB: Figment of the imagination.

Sound: What Doc was bound to say.

Ontological Argument: Archaic Bullshit Ben.

One was merely discussing the processes by which data is acquired, stored, perhaps modified and perhaps transferred.

The concepts of theism and atheism are but relative data arrangements.

As are your own wackier than the normal wacky theistic data arrangements.

Keep up the good work Poly....It brightens my day.

Good Morning Trade.

Dart quiet at the moment.

So allowing  you the benefit of my wisdom.

I would suggest, that since we started exchanging data on Debateart. We have both modified and relaxed our approach to the subject of religion and associated philosophy.

Would you agree?

I am certainly more certain that it is impossible to be certain of anything.

And you seem to be more openminded,  and as a consequence, your narrative output appears to be less certain.

Have a nice day.

I questioned everything and concluded that there were no verifiable facts or truths relative to material existence.

Only a variety of hypotheses.....Developed fairly recently, by a fairly recently developed sentient organic structure.

Though we evolved a few billion years too late, to do anything other that speculate more or less wildly.

And I concluded that floaty about blokes and nailing people to posts was more than less wild.

Modern science  offers a more pragmatic approach to the subject, though still relies upon a theoretical conclusion.

And of course there is always the question of where did the floaty about bloke suddenly appear from.

To suggest otherwise is to defy logic and  propose the biggest fallacy of all.

Exactly Trade.

It can mean anything one wants it to mean.

Though I'm not sure that Jesus spoke in English.

And as I keep reiterating:

Jesus may or may not have been a real person, though I concede that it is possible that there was a real person who did fit the bill.

Nonetheless, we have no way of knowing what said person might have uttered.

All that we have is second, third, fourth, fifth hand accounts, variously recorded and translated, eventually into English.

And all subject to the vagaries of time and the tendency of humans to exaggerate.

Any conditioned theist will say what any conditioned theist is conditioned to say.

It's the nature of the beast.

Doesn't prove the existence of deities though.

Just proves that people can/will repeat verbatim anything that they are taught/compelled to repeat verbatim.

Covid  and therefore Covid vaccines, get all the press that they need.

So why pay advertising companies?

Stay safe.

Everyone is selectively moral.

Even "Pro Lifers".

What's new?

Exactly my point.

The court procedure is irrelevant.

The gun that took two lives is the relevant issue.

Weapons effect Poly.

Don't doubt it for a minute.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but perhaps not quite so dramatically.

I certainly dislike the Nanny State syndrome, and I'm not quite sure how we arrived at this point. I'm more inclined to think that it is in fact, an inevitable result of material evolution, whereby technological and therefore social  expectation is exceeding the capability of the masses.

I think that you are probably like me....Somewhat old school, sort out my own life, and ask for nor expect anything from others.

1984 might have been somewhat premature, but I think that George Orwell's prophecy, eventually won't be to far short of the mark.

When by your reckoning, was the beginning of time Poly?

Do you have a clock GOD amongst your list of deities?

One assumes that to become a theist, one must have previously been an atheist Poly.

Sort of a logical progression, as it were.

And as for bitterness....Have you ever heard the expression.....The pot calling the kettle black.

It's good to end on agreement Doc.

Well...It's undeniably a presumption that Rittenhouse's life was in danger.

But Rittenhouse's gun undeniably took two lives.

Your argument is undeniably false.

The majority of people could probably be described as being some sort of group think ideolog.