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Is it moral to give money to beggers
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@Lemming
Is money moral?

Or more precisely,

Are the inherent social manifestations of money moral?

Money has long since been a representation of debt,

And is now a representation of hierarchical power.


What is morality anyway?

Other than a justification for something that we feel the need to justify,

Or the condemnation of something that we feel the need to condemn.


Why do we make up all this stuff?

Is it an evolutionary necessity?

Or do we do it just because we can?
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atheism is irrational
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@Athias
Et tu, Brute?
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Airmax1227 For DART
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@airmax1227
DDO became a hopeless site.

Is that what we can expect on Dart?
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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
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@Polytheist-Witch
@Barney
Ok.

A shame, because they always made an interesting contribution to a discussion.

The inherent problems of strongly established ideology I suppose.
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China switched on its nuclear fusion device
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@FLRW
That's good then.

Had a quick read, and would seem to be the answer to all human power supply issues.

Let's hope that it's really that simple.


The more interesting philosophical question for me, is why has it become necessary for a species to be dependant upon electrical energy?

A different forum perhaps.


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May They Just As Well Condemn The Bible To The Skip?
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@Stephen
The Bible is what it is, and is what it has become.

It is a collection of Middle Eastern folk tales and creation myths.

And along with other similar compilations,

Have become the basis of  worldwide cultural, social and political ideologies.

Daft but true.

Yet probably an evolutionary certainty.

Popular religions and all fanciful creation hypotheses are analogies for something that a group of sentient organisms don't understand.

Best just leave them with their books and their ignorance.

Put yours in a skip if you wish.

Mine went into a metaphorical skip long ago.

Still makes for entertaining discussion though.

And not that I purport to understand the meaning and potential purpose of creation.

I just understand that religious books are what they are, and are what they have become.

GOD principle sound,

Floaty about blokes not so.

Amen.


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Proof capitalism is evil
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@ResurgetExFavilla
Just a non-evolutionary system.

Which would seem to defy the laws of universal progression.

Probably would drive one mad.
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Is Inheritance Morally Wrong?
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@thett3
I imagine,

That people who think that inheritance is immoral.

Are people who won't be getting one.

Unless they unexpectedly get one,

And then you can bet,

Morality would shine like a beacon of light from the heavens,

Out of their arses,

As it were.
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Airmax1227 For DART
@Airmax who.

Never heard of them before 2022.


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after twenty-odd years, I'm transcending christianity…
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@sui_generis
Stephen loves contradictions.

And I think it is you.

And some fantastic terminology occurring.

Neoplatonic emanationism is f**king ace,

Must remember to slip that one in.

Old Plotinus was a right tart.

Nondual...Just the one then?

And what was odd about the twenty years before you transcended?

Or should I say more odd?

Though one could rightly argue,

That odd is, 

As odd does.

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Professor Jordan Peterson
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@Reece101
Interesting thought.

Without eyes, would the world be any colour at all?
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why do feminists defend islam and not christianity
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@Yassine
Now.

The lack of punctuation,

Strongly suggests that,

You write poetry,

About your fetishes.


And.

I looked up fetish,

And I must be honest and say,

That definitively speaking,

I do have fetishes that get a mention,

Often metaphorically.


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Free will contradicts theism
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@Yassine
It's good that you appreciate the intended humour of my reflection.

It did just strike me that a square was a circle with corners.

Anything with a perimeter can be circulated.


Otherwise...Free will contradicts theism, is just more of the same.

And can be dipped into and out of, at leisure.


I would suggest that we are all inspired to be more than we originally were.
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why do feminists defend islam and not christianity
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@Yassine
Zedku. Yassine Number 3.


Good morning,

Where ever you might be.

Well,

DDO became a shambles.

And Ideological and emotionless...That's pretty much me.

Emotion is largely.

Acquired behaviour relative to,

Memory.

Being aware of this,

Makes me aware of that.

And I enjoy constructing poems, which the Doc referred to as Zedku's.

It's becoming a thing.

And so...Hypothetically who get's the hug?

Bro,

Or the whore that she has become.

Can you be emotionless?

And deconstruct the hypothesis,

Rationally.
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Professor Jordan Peterson
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@Reece101
Often as difficult as one cares to make them.

Independence can be both a curse and a blessing.

Obviously not a curse for Sadolite.
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If a post turns you on, upvote it
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@Intelligence_06
In terms of methodology.

How fictitious is erotic fiction?
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If a post turns you on, upvote it
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@Reece101
Would that be a multiple entry dildo?

And will you be using a metaphorical lubricant?
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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
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@Bones
Well, you didn't explain very clearly.

It is being suggested that the ban was self-requested.

Is that correct?
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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
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@Vader
@Lemming
@Lemming

Yep...Formal debates are contests as you described.

I do the very occasionally debate, but only for amusement.

Check out my current debate with Intel.

Had a bit of spare time over the holiday period.

 
@SupaDudz.

Odd.

Mod.

Any more light to be shed.

Was this an act of self-flagellation?
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Proof capitalism is evil
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@ResurgetExFavilla
The evolution of human systems.

Did you or Varoufakis expect things to stay the same.

Nothing works like that.
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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
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@Bones
That's not a reason for banning.

What was the users request based upon?

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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
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@Bones
But why were they banned?

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Big Tech Boycotts
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@Danielle
Miscarriage.

Distress

Emotional overthink.

It's only human, I know.


Miscarriage.

Natural abortion

Old women having babies

It's the new natural, I know.


Miscarriage.

Vaccines

Gotta blame something 

It's modern blame culture, I know.


Big Tech.

Is

And what it will become

Distressless babies in a bubble, perhaps.


And so on.

Until

All energy is spent.

Baby it's cold outside, nothing more to know.


Thank GOD.

Maybe

Two chances

KABOOM, who knows.


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after twenty-odd years, I'm transcending christianity…
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@Stephen
#6.
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Whatever happened to EtrnlVw
A friend and I were wondering.
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pedophilia in hinduism
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@Polytheist-Witch
Sat and wondered.

Nope.

One account is enough.
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after twenty-odd years, I'm transcending christianity…
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@Stephen
Lived life fully awake, but so in touch with the unconscious.

There's your first contradiction in this particular hypothesis Stephen.
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Direct violation of rules in order to make Airmax1227 eligible to run for President.
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@Barney
All sorts of names crawling out of the woodwork at the moment.

None of them with much to offer.

Other than coerced drivel.


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Big Tech Boycotts
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@Danielle
A Zedku for Danielle.


Strikes me, 

If things didn't go on,

Then things wouldn't,

Yet you just did.

Odd.

So jerking off is the immediate option,

To the necessary itch,

And brain held imagery has always sufficed.

No Nip's required.

No offence intended

And Margorie Taylor Greene,

For sure,

On the platform,

Twittering

Bout some spiracy tosh.

And POTUS

Probably in bed.

Not jerking.

Testing testing,



2

1

2

Yep,

Seems to be working.


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Does your ideology include a clause that says you should raise hell against evil religions?
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@Polytheist-Witch
A Zedku for Poly.


That makes sense Poly,

If one reads it backwards, 

And replaces every fourth vowel,

With a Jaffa cake.

But  to be fair,

Christianity,

Is no clearer,

Or nearer,

To the beginning,

Or the end of,

Does your ideology include a clause,

That says you should raise hell,

Against evil religions.

Yep,

Santa clause.
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Free will contradicts theism
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@Yassine
A square is a circle with corners.
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Evidence for God
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@thett3
Currently, a GOD is not known to actually exist.


And true....If you wanna create spiritual, you'll create spiritual....But in your head.


So that sensation in your heart.

Could be serious.

Go see a Cardiologist.
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How fast can you type?
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@Dr.Franklin
I can do as many as is necessary.

And it would depend a great deal upon how long the words are.

I could probably type A, quite a few times in a minute.

Whereas Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, probably a lot less.
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A New Choice For DART: TheHammer
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@TheHammer
DDO was never great.
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ilikepie5 loves restricted speech. Ilikepie5 supports RM for the DART 2021 election
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@Dr.Franklin
Hi Doc.

Let's get pseudo political.

Faith and Begorrah.
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why muhammad was tutored by kuffar in mecca
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@Lunar108
Schism is clever people setting up their own club for personal gain.

Of course, if the new club is going to pay dividends, you need a considerable membership of gullible people

And you  also need to invest in the next generation of clever leaders.....Condition/tutor them appropriately and reward them accordingly.

Especially given the short turn around time of both leaders and members.


And fast forward 1700 years or so and nothing's really changed, other than the membership has grown and the stakes are considerably higher.

And the clever people can still  get the gullible numpties to do all sorts of stupid stuff in the name of the club.
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@Polytheist-Witch
@RationalMadman
sui-generis.

A well researched name that reminds me of someone.
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ilikepie5 loves restricted speech. Ilikepie5 supports RM for the DART 2021 election
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@RationalMadman
@Vader
I fail to see how one can feel pressured, by comments made on a remote discussion platform such as Debateart.


It's all a quite harmless and amusing parody of recent National politics being played out by what can only be described as an immature minds.


I had pledged my support for RM, on the basis that of late, I thought  I had witnessed a marked increase in their levels of tolerance and maturity.


Don't make me abstain RM.....Rise above the nonsense.

And you rise above it too SupaDudz.
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China switched on its nuclear fusion device
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@FLRW
I seem to remember that the French were building one too.

As long as they all have the off button sorted, we should be OK.

Not that I understand the science.

Would  it be OK, to just throw a load of concrete over an out of control fusion reaction, and then forget about it?
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atheism is irrational
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@Athias
A Zedku for Athias.


In my opinion,

You began with a three line ontology,

Devoid of logical procession,

Or a reasonable outcome.


Blah de blah de blah,

Blah de blah de blah,

Therefore a GOD.


No beer necessary.

Just tea and porridge.


Blah de blah de blah,

Blah de blah de blah,

Therefore not a GOD,

In my opinion.


Opinions may vary.
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@Lunar108
People are the products of their upbringing.

I was going to say, sadly.

But sadness is pointless.

One has to accept that people are simply what they have become.


I work regularly with people who label as Muslim, and all are friendly,

Though how they might be more deeply affected by enforced religious conditioning is hard to tell.


And of course, the same applies to those affected by enforced Christian conditioning.

More so in the U.S. perhaps, rather than here in the U.K.


I'm still of the opinion though, that save for the extremes of society,

Radical dimwits, and the power seekers who would coerce the radical dimwits.

The moderate core of society, only wants a quiet life. 
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@Yassine
Another Zedku for Yassine.


On the spot.

And scholarly tone diminishes,

Into the background hiss,

Of recrimination,

And cheap jibes.

From which,

Ironically,

A message,

Is received.

Roger that Yas

Over and out.
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Are covid lockdowns and mandates the new Millgram experiment?
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@Greyparrot
The vaccine for morbid obesity.

Is eating sensibly and moving.
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Allah can't save a child
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@Lunar108
A Zedku for Lunar108.


Allah is GOD and God is GOD,

Or not as the case may be,

Or maybe not, as the case may be.

Same difference.


As for saving children.

Neither can do either,

Or either can do neither,

Or both.


Ask Abraham,

He made it all up.
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China switched on its nuclear fusion device
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@FLRW
Let's hope that they know how to switch it off.
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why do feminists defend islam and not christianity
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@Yassine
How many women "suffer domestic abuse" under Islam?

Well, I suppose that if the domestic abuse of women isn't deemed to occur, then the answer will be zero.



Let me ask you a simple hypothetical question.

If your brother was to rape your wife, who would you embrace first?

Your brother or your wife.
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atheism is irrational
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@Athias
My contention is that my opinion is logically sound, and your opinion is not.


An opinion being what it is typically regarded as.


Though based upon the uncertainty of opinion, it would be better to conclude that neither of our opinions is sound enough, and that two unsound opinions relating to similar data from two separate data sources, have the potential to be both illogical and logical.

Logic is in the eye of the beholder, as it were.


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@Yassine
A Zedku for Yassine.


A vile woman is an assumption.

You might be vile.

And people are usually vile for a reason.


As a generalization,

Focussing on individuals, doesn't address the collective ideology.


And not all women are angels,

As are not all men,

But all women and all men are individuals,

And not property to be silenced and separated.


Silence and separation,

Is the work of a vile person.
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@Athias
Mind is that which describes the organic device and it's processes.

So no.


The device being that which is essential to the function of the mass.

And in terms of natural cohesion, is inextricably linked to the mass. (Currently)


Internal and external are simply just easy to recognise terms, that represent the apparent separation  of that which occurs within the mass and that which might occur outside the mass. I don't understand why you find this problematic.


So...A GOD is generated internally....And I conceded that definitively this is perception.

But it does not logically follow that a GOD must exist, other than as an internally contrived possibility.

Otherwise everything that we can possibly contrive must also exist.


So I will contrive a NOT GOD THAT ISN'T..

Therefore a NOT GOD THAT ISN'T must exist.

Or not exist, depending upon how one cares to processes such data.


And we end up with a difference of opinion....Which given the number of possible data sequences that are available, is not unusual.
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@Yassine
@Lunar108
@Yassine.

How to deal with a "Vile Wife"......Islamospeak.


Treat a woman with equal respect.

And you might find that she is not so vile after all.


And the husband is never bad?


@Lunar108

Feminism is a generalization,

And can represent anyone with an ideology.

But you seem to have noticed things that I have not noticed.

Christian feminists will label as Christian,

And Islamic feminists will label as Islamic

And others will label according to their ideological precepts.


And Yassine is seemingly someone who would separate and silence the female sub-species.



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