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@Poly

Exactly.

Arrogance is a substitute for ignorance,

And certainty in ones own knowledge is confidence,

And confidence might appear to be arrogance,

If one is ignorant and lacks confidence. 

I like the armchair option.

I admire your attention to detail.

Just saying.

Amongst all else,

It was a comment that just stood out.

Not quite like carbon dating or something, whereby one might say 10000 years, plus or minus a hundred years.

But for sure,

It doesn't matter at all.

Nice post too.

@Tarik

Notwithstanding skepticism or scepticism.  (Depending upon ones place of origin)

Piggybacking  multiple cans of worms.

Now there's semantics for you.

Science reaches conclusions, by step by step analysis.

Results always yield a positive conclusion, even if a conclusion does not always satisfy the premise.

Everyone thinks that everyone else lives somewhere else other than here.

Well, not everyone does.

And terror is em,

Largely,

Testosterone fuelled fantasy,

Devolved from the Churches,

Parents,

Schools,

And the playground.

Then there are media generated American stereotypes.

Though when I visited,

People we generally very ordinary and polite.

Just like in the U.K.

Perhaps the media has a tendency to promote the exaggerated vainglorious fringes of society.

Now why would they do that?

Wait 400 years.....Give or take 100.

One reads these threads.

And certain things just jump out at you.

Plus or minus 25%.......Is that a reasonable margin of error?

The theist is an obstinate pseudo-scientist, who will never admit that their premise is fundamentally flawed.

Such are the limitations of the human brain.

Teach your kids non-sense, and the will grow up obstinately believing in non-sense.

And don't forget that I never dismiss the GOD principle.

It's just a floaty about bloke, who f**ks a married virgin and then nails their bastard son to a post for my sins type nonsense, that readily disproves your whacky hypothesis.

Why would a clever tri-omni be this stupid.

Why not a huge non-violent screen in the sky carrying a polite multilingual message.

Saying something like:

This is your GOD here.

Now be sure to be nice to each other,

And please look after the planet.

I'm of now for an indeterminate period of time, to do some creation work elsewhere.

But should you need to get in touch, please call me, as I'm always available on my omnipresence device.

No worship necessary......Just enjoy yourselves.

Regards.

GOD.

Now wouldn't that be a whole lot easier and more sensible.

Rather than flooding the Earth and getting a guy to build a big boat, etc etc.

I'm indifferent with regards the Bible.

It's just a book, variously interpreted, variously translated and variously republished.

The so called word of your particular GOD, probably predates the Bible by a good few hundred years anyway.

So consequently what has been arrived at today is most certainly of later human concoction, with a typical mythological format.

Elements of human reality, juxtaposed with a naive creation hypothesis, 2000 year old social ideology and a smattering of supernatural fantasy thrown in for good measure.

There are just so many reasons why the Bible is not representative of a clever, tri-omni GOD.

In fact, the World is not specifically "round".

It is roughly spherical.

"Round" could imply a flat Earth,

And we wouldn't want to do that.

Well that's how I feel.

Though, in so much as all internal processes are relative to all internal processes,

So in relative terms, feelings become facts and are only distinguishable by adapting the self same internally relative processes.

The rate of material evolution is seemingly exponential, thanks to a select few with the appropriate intellect.

Though for sure, human evolution basically stagnated a long time ago.

And if the dross of humanity want crack pipes, then stick them in a camp and give them crack pipes and all the free crack that they can f**king suck.

The application of genuine compassion is perhaps a good thing.....Though very few would do it unless they could afford to do it.

Ever heard of Arm and Hammer.

Couldn't get more overtly dentally hygienic, even if they rammed  it into your mouth on a brush

And talk about orthodontic conspiracy theory.

Ever wondered what's really going on when they inject your gums with mind altering toxins, and start implanting stuff.

Great answer.

You beat me to it.

Good stuff.

But it's all just your opinion, based on data acquired from a book of myths an legends.

And in my opinion based, also on acquired data, it's as I've just stated.

We both think that we are being wise,

And I think that I am being wiser than you,

Because there has never been a real GOD to verify such stuff.

We are currently  lacking a GODS wisdom.

Depends what they concentrate on.

If they concentrated on vaccinating people, then it shouldn't be much more than an overnighter.

Just pack your tooth brush,

And toothpaste.

Though who knows what sort of toxic, mind control shit they put in toothpaste.

@POLY

Thanks Poly.

Pity that you've adopted the old blocking thing though.

My impression of Lunatic so far.

Jumps to negative conclusions.

OK.

What's what?

I'll just leave this out there.

If that's the choice that some people make, then I fully support them and admire their stoicism

It's not conform or die is it?

It's a case of, if you choose to not conform, be prepared to face the consequences of your own actions.

I reiterate, that I am firmly in support of personal choice in this matter.

Nothing fascist about supporting the freedom of the individual to choose.

No it hasn't.

That decision was rescinded this week.

I think that Conan was saying the same as I said in my initial Zedku to Bernadot.

I am the best thing in the World.

Without me there would be nothing.

There might be you,

But that would no longer be of any  significance to me.

Being fined for breaking a Mandatory Law is commonplace.

And most laws are passed without referendum.

We elect people to make decisions for us....That's the way that most Western Democracies function.

And thanks to enforced childhood vaccination, infant mortality has significantly decreased.

Would you like me to explain how tuberculosis effects the cells.

The basis of human physiology is cellular...everything we input has a level of cellular impact. Even common foodstuffs.

And if you are British it is unlikely that vaccination will become mandatory.....Even for healthcare workers.

And the basis of Covid anxiety, is fear of infection coupled with the human fascination with conspiracy theory.

And for my part, I reiterate that I am all for letting people decide for themselves.

But don't come crawling back to Nanny State when the shit hits the fan.....Because don't forget that they are always conspiring against you.

My Nationality is not a secret.

Yep, I voted against Brexit.

Though I go along with the decision.

In the U.S.A for example, would it be fair if health insurance companies refused to pay out to the unvaccinated?

Tough if it's a case of moral obligation, then why isn't vaccination a moral obligation.

There seems to be two reasonable sides to the argument.

Are you British?

Sound hypothesis.

Very similar to my way of thinking.

Floaty about blokes and popular theistic ritual,

IS STUPID ASS SHIT.

Now who am I quoting there?

So have you never had a vaccination?

So how many referendums do you have per annum?

 And if a referendum on mandatory vaccination went in favour of the mandate.

Would you then happily abide by the democratic decision?

And just to put this in perspective.

I am against mandatory vaccination.

Nonetheless I chose to be vaccinated.

So should people who choose not to be vaccinated, consequently be refused medical treatment  for severe Covid symptoms?

This would seem fair.

Ass shit, not so stupid if you put it on your vegetable patch.

Adding organic matter improves soil structure.

I use Horse shit, as not so many Asses about these days.

Do you have an Ass or a Garden?

In setting this precedent,

Then everything that was ever mandated was tyrannical.

This then, is also truth.

Your basically advocating anarchy.

Or are YOU just mandating that only YOU can decide what is and isn't mandatory.

Sounds like tyranny to me.

Wisdom is as wisdom does.

I could say that I prefer a GODS biscuits, to human biscuits.

Doesn't actually change anything.

Well for sure, if you contrive a test to prove something that's already obvious.

I suppose it's something to keep the kids happy.

Pulling out of U.S inspired chaos.

Is what the U.S does.

So don't be bitter.

Anyway the Taliban need to be our friends now, because it's got al Al-Qaeda to deal with.....Just like Osama used to be our friend.

Method in U.S. madness it seems.

Well done Joe....Good move.

Oh....And don't forget to leave loads of useful kit behind.

You did.....Nice one.

Polls completely depend upon who polls who.

I could have concluded that about Intel anyway, without all the palaver..... Considering that they are  a Chinese citizen, seemingly participating openly on a global discussion website.

We take them at their word....Of course they could be a State indoctrinated political agitator.

Though they currently don't seem to agitate much.

Truckers fight fascism.

Unless they are fascist truckers of course.

Though in terms of road dominance, a truck is about as fascist as it gets.

And a truckers collective dominantly imposing political dogma, is rightly fascist.

So let's have all you E motorists toot your horns in the fight against right wing TRUCKER fascism.

But not such extreme tooting, so as to render yourself fascist.

Where does one draw the line between between motoring extremes?

A book may be well preserved.

But that does not necessarily mean that it will be interpreted well.

Am I theist or atheist.

As I stated previously, by definition I am atheist.....Someone who doesn't except as reasonable, the Idea of an existent supernatural deity.

In respect of the topic at hand, and also as I previously stated, I've moved from a position of universal nihilism, to a position of an evens chance of universal purpose.....Purpose for a given intelligence within a given universe.....I refer to this as a GOD principle, simply because the word GOD has also come to represent universal meaning, rather than just an imaginary floaty about bloke.....Nonetheless I have no religious devotion to such concepts....Therefore in the theological sense of the word, I am not religious.....In the broader sense of the word I am currently more devoted to modernising my house....And always devoted to my family of course....There's always a human purpose that doesn't require supernatural intervention.

And for sure, tablet of stone can be a metaphor for an electronic device.....But the GOD of the Middle Eastern holy books, still never had an electronic device.

And within the context of language, words have meanings or definition....Otherwise everything that you and I ever narrate is meaningless...Ergo GOD is meaningless....You can't have your cake and eat it...Whatever that means.....Well, within the context of language I know what that means....Just as you and I both know that backwards and ahead within the context of my previous narrative, were meaningfully representative of the past and the future.....Being philosophically disingenuous is one step away from admitting defeat, in my book. 

Pretty straightforward and logical.

Unlike nailing people to posts to die for my sins, type of stuff.

Ok.

I should have worked that out.

Haven't been over for a while.

Had a couple of weeks based on Achill Island last time I visited.

Every-thing,

Or any-thing.

Consciousness,

Is definitely a thing.

Cus,

THING, 

Is a pretty loose sort of a,

Non-specific, 

Where are you from Badge?

If you don't mind me asking.

And f**king your "mam", would be more than embarrassing,

Well by traditional Western standards it would.

Or maybe not so, in the swampy backwoods of the U.S.

Especially if your dad was f**king your sister at the time.

It's just that "mam" is very colloquially British.

And do you wear a mask whilst Sexually Transmitting Diseases to your mam?

So the test was deliberately ambiguous.

Yep, I think I saw through that straight away.

So what makes you label me as liberal?

Or was this just a sort of cheap throw away pseudo jibe?

And I would suggest that my post seemed nonsensical, because you made a determined effort to find it nonsensical, rather than a determined effort to evaluate it.

And if the test hadn't been disingenuously ambiguous, there would have been only two genuine responses to the questions,

Ergo, top score 12,  lowest score 6.....And I would have scored 12 like most other honest participants.

And nut jobs would have deliberately scored 6 in a futile attempt to disguise their paranoia.

Well.....I suppose that Psychologists have to justify their salaries somehow.

And mainstream religion isn't weird?

Well no, not if you have a conditioned mindset.

A mindset that's prepared to accept old Middle Eastern folk tales as a reasonable hypothesis.

Whereas, it is clearly apparent that material development has moved on a tad since those days of ignorance,

But you just take this for granted, 

Yet you happily tap away at your device, when all that your omniscient saviours could achieve was tablets of stone.

And it's also clear that things are still developing, and therefore logical to suggest that material development will continue developing way way into the future,

Maybe with us, maybe without us.

And all this may or may not be purposeful....The jury is is still out, and will continue to be out for as long the appropriate knowledge remains undiscovered..

All that I do, is propose a reasonable purpose, which I refer to as the continuation of the universal sequence....Or the re-initiation of matter.

And the difference between you and I is,

I am a 21st century man trying to think ahead,

Whereas, you are a 21st century man who prefers to think backwards.

Of course there's still a 50/50 chance that everything is pointless.

We just don't know,

Which is probably just as well,

Otherwise the futility of internet religious forum arguments, wouldn't be quite so entertaining.