zedvictor4

Sounds convincing.

If you had been raised by Muslims, would you be a Christian?

And I did imply that an assumed random choice, is a choice for a reason....So therefore not actually random.

And freewill calculated in advance, is calculated in advance for a reason.

Calculation requires internal data assessment  predicated upon acquired and stored knowledge.

Given the nature of the beast, freewill is probably not a possibility.

Freedom to make informed choices is probably as good as it gets.

If you don't want a vaccine, then don't have one. Ultimately it's your choice.

And all vaccines are initially experimental.

Fortunately, and thanks to previously experimental vaccines I haven't contracted polio, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, smallpox, TB etc.

And given these and other advances in medical intervention, I will more than likely live a whole lot longer than I would of 150 years ago.

So what's your real beef?

I would suggest, probably just a lifestyle affecting virus.

And the little critter ain't listening.

On line, remote, fun debating.

 

To be addressed responsibly

But not to be taken too seriously

More important things to consider, elsewhere.

All that is required is

Good conduct

No whinging.

Who is the woman in the new profile pic Doc?

One is free to choose, but one inevitably chooses for a reason.

If one decides to make a random choice, then one does for that reason. Therefore the choice ceases to be random.

That is an assumption.

My response directly addressed the question, but perhaps not in the way that you expected.

So:

1. Heart Disease.....Early onset heart problems are commonly resultant of a neglectful lifestyle, in terms of fitness and diet....Though as I alluded to above, in a liberal democracy, how does the State mandate and enforce a healthy lifestyle.

The State can only attempt to educate and advise, which it probably already does.

Science is science Doc.

And rhetoric is rhetoric.

There's no getting away from the trust that the public have invested in science.

Humans are both decipherable and programmable.

We are led to believe that all outcomes are genetically encoded, and therefore decipherable

And we output data and behave, in a way that we were inadvertently conditioned to be.....We are genetically programmed  and  data conditioned.

One should expect to die.

And one should not expect that governments will  be able to make a great deal of difference

A lot of early onset physiological disorders, can be avoided by having a serious regard to diet and fitness.

And then sometimes shit happens.

The government can advise, but don't expect it to drag you from the TV, swap the burger for salad and stick you on a bicycle.

And there's probably shit all that governments can do when shit happens.

Please put "BINARY" into context.

As I am not certain of the implication of the question.

Sorry, but I don't understand the significance of the comment.

Perhaps you could explain.

Well, your definition is variable, extending to potential associates and strangers whereby trustworthiness and "good guys" is very much speculative.

And of course, expected levels of assistance are also going to be variable.

Another politically motivated dig Mr Faux.

What do you think that Donald would be doing now, if the positions had been reversed?

@Theweakeredge.

You have just contradicted yourselves.

If you think that it's OK  to promote one human or civil rights issue, whilst simultaneously denying another.

And if you separate two things with a "vs" you are clearly  promoting an idea of discrimination.

And tolerance is an individual trait, and not always a two way thing.

Interestingly the Bible is similarly contradictory.

You're both jousting from high horses.

Detergent.

And a load of other stuff that you didn't necessarily want, but found irresistible.

Depends upon how you define the "group".

Next time, just pick someone that knows what they are doing.

Either a competent Republican or a competent Democrat.

Is the best that the U.S can come up with really just a Buffoon or a Geriatric?

And from our perspective (UK) it was no wonder that the American people realised which was the lesser of the two evils.

At least here in the U.K. we have a reasonably competent, and comparatively youthful Prime Ministerial Buffoon.

And the Queens is Head of State, and she's only 95....LOL

But I never vote for any of them...So you can't blame me.

And Doc...The first rule of politics is misinformation.

Never make a definitive statement.

Always beat about the bush, as it were.

You should have realised that by now Doc.

Bush was an expert bush beater.....But with a winning smile.

Second rule of politics...A winning smile.

Or in Boris's case, a cheeky grin.

Yep.

As I suggested  human nature/normal behaviour.

What an amazing hotchpotch of ideas.

Simone....Undoubtedly an outstanding gymnast.

I'm sure that there will be more to this than meets the eye.

The ability to cope mentally in  high level, technically and physically demanding gymnastics disciplines, is as essential as physical ability.

All her competitors are under the same pressures.

For such people fallibility is never an option, but fallibility is the inevitable reality.

Interesting if accurate.

But just exemplifies human nature.

He became a charismatic figurehead who enthralled the masses.

A bit like D Trump

A bit like A Hitler

What does this really say about the rest the dimwits who allow themselves to become spellbound......Human nature too, I suppose.

Bronski Beat.

Smalltown Boy.

You were going well until this point...And then you got all irrational and prejudiced.

Desperation is usually driven by other factors, rather than by having an alternative point of view.

And "kinda sketchy" is itself kinda sketchy.

The Doc's cool.

To be honest.

I found the OP somewhat confusing .

So I gave a somewhat satirical reply.

I think perhaps others were of the same mind, and therefore appreciated my response.

Ok.

Yep.

Another Zedku Doc.

Technology is always vast ....It was vast when our ancestors learned the ability to create and control fire.....And so on.

Technology has currently evolved to a certain point, but will get vaster.

And religion is no less an assumption for sure, and the religious GOD principle is the same as any GOD principle.

Though looked at rationally through todays eyes, associated religious myths can clearly be seen for what they are.

It's only stubborn data transfer that perpetuates belief in such myths.

And "Almighty God" is a pertinent reference to any GOD principle.

And Genesis I'm sure is the first part of the acronym, but I haven't worked out what the OD stands for yet.  

Humans are basically humans for sure, evolutionary modifications of the organic are very slow.

Though human inspired evolutionary modifications of the inorganic and organic are much swifter and gathering apace.

The hierarchy of intelligence is what is important, and the barbarians are easily controlled by the intellectual elite....Take a look at the history books.

It only takes one human to inspire immense change.

And to stop the ball rolling you just need a steep enough hill.

Because some clever dick suggested it and a lot of dimwits lacked the ability to question it.

And so as not to offend todays somewhat  brighter religious folk......I'm talking back in the day here.

Nonetheless, continuing to transfer such archaic ideology, isn't particularly bright.  Because what should by now have been rendered solely to history books is still taken quite seriously by some.

But hey....It fills the shelves with  Easter eggs just after the Christmas puddings have been removed to the bargain basement.

@RatMan

Pissing you off....Isn't difficult.

One might conclude that you actually enjoy being pissed off.....Sort of your signature trait, as it were.

A Republican is best defined as a Conservative democrat....Though some Republicans have a tendency to be more conservative and less democratic

Whereas a Democrat is a more liberal democrat. Though some Democrats have a tendency to be even more liberal and less democratic.

And then there will of course, be exceptions in both camps.

And then there will be those that don't wear any badges.

#87

Yep that's basically what I said. 

#88

There's no certainty that empathy will inspire any thing other than empathy.

And there's no certainty that sympathy will inspire anything other than sympathy.

Because people tend to be selfish, and guilt inspired altruism costs.

True altruists are very very thin on the ground.

Yep good point.

Sort of fits the hypothesis quite well.

Though the collapse of the universe is perhaps inevitable, the accumulation of all knowledge (GOD) ensures the resurrection.

Do you see how well that fits with the basic philosophy of the Bible.

Back in the day, knowledge didn't extend beyond the visible and limited science, so ideas remained human centred and were embellished/explained by human inspired super-natural myth. 

An unseen floaty about bloke, that gave birth to himself, then had himself nailed to a cross for our benefit, and then disappeared again....Doesn't quite cut the 21st century scientific mustard... Technologically inspired understanding and knowledge of the universe and it's processes.

For sure.

Sympathy is a direct and motivating response to a stimulus.

Whereas empathy is  perhaps a more  intuitive response.

I refer to it as a universal sequence.

And GOD represents the ultimate of knowledge and material development .  And is certainly not the Man of story books.

Though most popular God based hypotheses share a similar basic principle.

In so much as GOD enables the recreation of life and intelligence and intelligent life assists in the recreation of GOD....Thus perpetuating the sequence.

I would therefore  suggest, that this has all happened before, many times.

Associated tall tales are just a product of the imagination....Though to write them off completely, would be to deny a significant part of human development.

Donating is easy if one has spare money to donate, and remote from any real need to empathise.

By definition we empathise with those we empathise with.

And so empathy is inevitably subject to some level of internal discrimination.

Maybe.

The New GOD hasn't yet been created.

So maybe a woman in a truck is irrelevant.

As would be references to the Old GOD that perished billions of years ago.

Maybe.

@RatMan

Perceivable difference is it's own self perpetuating racist propaganda.

GOD if you will

The accumulation of all knowledge.

Waiting on the edge of the abyss.

As all matter collapsed into the void.

Certain of it's own sacrifice.

Confident of the resurrection.

And the perpetuation of the sequence.

Right on Doc.

Quite honestly he is very entertaining.

One takes such rhetoric as seriously as one want's to.

And some people like to take it far more seriously than others do..... I would suggest that effectual sensitivity, is their problem, and not Wylted's.

Power corrupts.

So what's new?

Marriage?

An excuse for a knees up and a thick head I suppose.

Nope. Believe is an ambiguous word.

Because, one does not need to believe in certainty.

One  believes in an uncertainty, which by definition lacks proof.

So I am not prepared to believe in anything.

Does the door revolve clockwise or counter clockwise.

Or is it prone to sporadic changes of directional rotation.

And if the FDA is ran by big pharma, is the door manual or does it utilise sensory electronics.

No but it would be a good reason for her to accuse him of being a paedophile.

Done.