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Afghanistan was an illogical knee jerk reaction to the Twin Towers attack, which really had nothing to do with Afghanistan in the first place.

A stupid fiasco of the USA's and (shamefully) it's Allies own making.

Nothing whatsoever taken on board from the previous Russian debacle, or the USA's previous failed attempts to meddle in Asian affairs.

And who arms the Taliban and who previously armed the Taliban?.......D'oh.

All that Afghanistan has "fallen" from, is from one chaos into another.

And Western and Eastern Super-Powers will retire to their own ideological corners, and posture..... Whilst a nation of Third World Tribal  Bandits sort things out in their own traditionally fanatical way.

It was always going to happen.

Did history teach us nothing?

Or were we just not paying attention?

To re-educate humanity , thereby eradicating all human flaws.  Thus a new sustainable, atheist, logically monocultural, forward thinking  perfect species.

I too always consider what I injest....Food and medication.

And I always consider who or where I get my information from.

Was that a cry for help Doc.

What "sucks"  for one person Doc, doesn't necessarily suck for another.

Libertarianism, socialism, authoritarianism, egalitarianism, leftism, rightism....You can stick an ism on the end of anything, and it will "suck" for someone.

Anythingism....That sucks.

@RatMan.

Dodgy history Ratty.

P.R.C.  (Previously R.C.) is a relatively young nation......Much younger than the U.S. in fact.

Blaming everything on "China" is a perhaps a tad hypocritical. 

It might be argued that industrialization started in the iron age....Or perhaps even before that.

It might therefore also be argued that human influenced climate change was an evolutionary inevitability.

Maybe your in denial Doc.

Nope

I don't understand you objective either.

Three capitalized, contradictory statements.

A sci-fi film

And a young chap with a weak beard.

Though I would assume that evolution necessitates, that one day control must be ceded to AI.

To assume that humanity is and always will be at the top of the intellectual tree, is perhaps unrealistic.

That we now have these conversations, might indicative of the future.

And why would AI need paperclips.....Or Paper for that matter. 

For sure, Donald learnt a lesson and got off lightly.

And the only reason that the majority of the population can expect to exceed 40 years of age, is thanks to clever people (scientists) and their inventions.

I doubt that many people would be hesitant about ingesting an antibiotic for example.

Or do the anti-vax, conspiracy theorists still consider Alexander Fleming to be one of the shadowy untrustworthy elite?

I would suggest that it is more a case of risk assessment.

Vaccination is already proven to not be 100% safe.

  

I chose to vaccinate....Assessing that the risk  to me from covid infection was far greater than the risk from covid vaccination.

Hesitancy is uncertainty.

And anti-vax , is no more than one would  expect of certain people.

And let's be honest, anti-vax in the U.S is largely a left and right issue.....A  gullible public inspired by the charismatic's desire for wealth and power.

Trumpism and Trumpeteers as you might refer to it Mr Ebuc.

Everything that you have posted in this thread is resultant of you, and how you personally choose to process and attribute importance to specific data.

Otherwise, why should anyone take you seriously?

This is DEBATEart and not YOUMUSTAGREEWITHMESMERart.

I would suggest that debate requires a certain level of disagreement to make it worthwhile.

And is your argument not based upon personal feelings?

1. Race is a word variously defined....As is white....Such is data management.

One race as dictated by it's unrestricted propensity to procreate, and consequently produce skin tone variation.

Or a hundred metres dash...Though currently darker competitors reign supreme.... Such can we taxonomically differentiate.

2. And I find "white supremacist" just as inoffensive as I find nigger.

Because offence is a deliberate data processing exercise, that I do not subscribe to, as I see no value in it.

Others choose to process differently

"White supremacist" is simply the counter -offence promoted by those such as yourself that see value in promoting a counter-offence.

Most people wouldn't give such things a second thought  if left unbothered.

@RatMan

Science is.....Read your dictionary.

Skepticism is.....Read your dictionary.

Optimism is perhaps the essence of scientific thinking.

And "Flat Earth" is backward thinking conspiracy theory..... As is "top secret lab".

Secure lab maybe.....As one would expect.

1. Culture is such that all becomes cultural.

Discrimination is cultural.

2. I got there

Because it currently isn't

3. And you are discriminating on the basis of thread identity.

Actually, well stated.

Though with rhetorical decadence.

You will be blocked.

Oops...You already are.

Well, I suppose that whatever the outcome.....Ultimately, all will be "realistic".

Well taxonomically one can discriminate in all sorts of ways.

And just like everything cultural, taxonomic discrimination is no more or less a data management exercise.

What we do is the inevitability because of what we are.

And currently "White supremacist" doesn't have the same social significance as "n*gger".

Such is the ongoing development of data.

Just replacing that awful "i" with an asterisk.....Makes all the difference in terms of en vogue data management.

So call me wh*tey.....And all will be good.

What, if at all, is the purpose of everything, is the question that underlies all such considerations for me.

Does material evolution have a goal, and what will be the extent of human involvement therein.

Most humans get so wrapped up in themselves, and loose sight of the bigger picture unfolding before them.

To that end I would suggest, that already a large proportion of humanity is already redundant.

Knowledge and intellect and the application thereof is and will be key, and most are/will be sadly lacking.

The innovators will innovate.

And the rest will will bow to a device, worry about trivialities such as  sexuality and skin tone, and scratch for food.

The future is perhaps somewhere else and very few will get there....And the rest will be left behind to fight it out.

Can you foresee a utopian alternative?

Fortunately no one is white....Therefore no one should be offended.

And some people are sensible, and some people are particularly stupid....And we've always known this...So we should be used to it by now.

How will everyone make a living....That is.....Acquire money to convert to goods and food.

And yet we will continue to increase a more redundant population.

The future looks quite bleak for a lot of people.

Well stated.

Concept over reality.

Legality is make believe.

And living tissue is.

And I am pro-choice

Because I am not selectively moral 

And "babies" are born. (Check your dictionary)

Killing babies is illegal.

All living tissue must cease living at some point.......Internally or externally.

Your argument is silly.

@RatMan

You're referring to special needs individuals.

One was just making  a generalization relative to TheUnderdogs general curiosity.

If you wish to specialize , then I suggest that  you create a specific forum topic.

50 hours.......Sounds like a good deal.

Seriously though, I fully agree, 6 weeks is a good cut of point....Most women are aware of their pregnancy by this stage.

Morning after pills seem like the sensible solution to unprotected sex.  Though I am sure that there are downsides to an unrestricted implementation of this option. 

One can either read or not.

Comprehension is a different matter altogether.

And grammar is largely out of the window these days.

Does this site actually have any darker skinned members?

Or is it  really  just a site for opinionated, young, light skinned, male Americans.

HaHa......Ethanesque goading.....Kind of weird.

And one persons normal is another persons weird, and vice versa.

And Bro D achieves, what they set out to achieve....And walks away unscathed.

I am always entertained but never respond......As response is futile.....And that's what makes Bro D smarter than you.

Yep...But you've still got to get things done.

So if you've got huge groups of people that do not agree, how do you move things forward.

Well, as you stated....A ballot....So majority decision.

And so for instance, if your four choices relating to abortion and taxes were put to a ballot and the results were 28%, 27%, 23%, 22%.....Then who's ideas and principles would eventually be ignored.

And who organises the ballot......Other than an authoritative body that ultimately, dictates procedure and is responsible for outcomes.

Jews might fear Iranians.

So, what are the legitimate questions?

If your qualifications and level of intellect are as you say. (# 5)

Then you should be able to answer these questions yourself.

Re #2

What has "antisemitism" got to do with anything.

You are a multi-conflationist.

How would anything get done in your system?

And eventually like minded people would come together and form a collaborative group....AKA....A Political Party.

Being independent is useless, unless a majority agree with you.

And you would need a lot more than 3 ideas to be a successful politician.

Typical "simplistic" and inaccurate emotive pleas.....No one advocates the "execution of babies".

Category difference 2:

The removal of a blob of organic matter, execute the sentient human being.

One can differentiate all day long.

Though selective morality in regard to life and death, is always a necessity.

And so the story goes.

Bro D is smarter than you might think.

So who do you think is a weirdo?

Nope, one is only hypocritical if one denies being selectively moral.

So for instance, if you consider abortion to be immoral, but capital punishment to be morally justifiable and admit to being selectively moral then that is not hypocritical.

Nonetheless if one concedes to this level of honesty, one inevitably must concede to a pro-choice position.

Because to be pro-choice and then seek to deny pro-choice, is undoubtedly hypocritical.

Questions don't imply.

Questions question.

I'm questioning why do covid conspiracy theorists assume to know better than experts.

Well, not withstanding that there is no such thing as "objective morality"....(Established but variable  moral expectancies perhaps).

If one is honest about ones selective morality, then one is not being hypocritical.

So how, lets ask, would you distinguish yourself from a "weirdo"?

Or is your appreciation of a "weirdo", just a subjective opinion of someone who appears not to think as you do?

It's just that your dialogue is usually quite rational.

"Weirdo"  seemed a tad out of keeping.

Anti-Semitic is bang on trend. Along with Anti-Black and Anti-Gay.

And some Jews are themselves, are Anti-Semitic.

And some Blacks are Anti-White

And some Gays are Anti-Straight.

People thrive on such stuff.

It's just a case of who's Anti is currently the most popular.

I'm sure that some pompous liberal twat gave her a good talking to and then charged her for the privilege.

And as she handed over her money she thought....Pompous liberal twats.

For she was also an Anti-Pompous Liberal Twat.

Me...I'm just an observationist.

LOL

What is a weirdo in the religious section?

Et tu, Brute.

Undoubtedly a truism.

Physicists believe.

Physicists propose all sorts.

Though something can only expand if there is the potential for it to do so.

And that potential might be unlimited

Even though, that which is expanding might be limited.

So said physicists are saying the same but slightly differently.

Stretch will suffice.

The same principle can also be applied to time.

Agree.

See above.

All morality is subjective.

And selective is an easy word to understand, and couple it with morality and you have a very simple concept.

Apply that to a typical Pro-lifer and you will typically find contradiction within a Pro -Lifer's variable interpretation of pro-life.

Some might refer to it as hypocrisy, but I prefer selective morality.

Simple.