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@949havoc
I find that questioning why we do what we do, is something of a time machine exercise.
We should perhaps accept that we do what we do, and move forwards from there.
To a point where history becomes what we did.
Though I think that we already do this anyway.
We have a tendency to attempt to shut the stable door after the horse as bolted, by attempting to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted.
And so we eventually shut the door, as it were.
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@949havoc
Mt Baldy yes.
Of the squid, no idea.
You will have to enlighten me.
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@949havoc
People die.
It's what they do.
And people eat processed food but still live longer than they would have 200 years ago.
And what would the Covid death total have been if we hadn't have put countermeasures in place
Perhaps one less if Pressley had taken some.
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@949havoc
Why.
Because we do.
That really is what the whole thinking thing is all about.
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@n8nrgmi
Atheists have a conditioned database, just as theists do, that's all there is to it.
And a miracle is how one cares to define it.
Everything boils down to data management in the end.
I think therefore I do or don't believe in a deity.
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@ebuc
Dancing is ridiculous behaviour.
Well, I'm reliably informed that it is when I do it.
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@3RU7AL
The old subjective objective conundrum.....With arbitrary thrown in for good measure.
However, categories and sub-categories would have a "real" discernible basis.
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@TheMorningsStar
Academics are as Academics do.
They have a tendency to make stuff up and then over-egg it.
Is this also just an exercise in academic waffle, or is there an underlying reason for your perplexity?
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@Intelligence_06
A relatively leftist country etc.
Where's that then?
I can think of a couple of relatively totalitarian countries that masquerade as leftist.
And then there's the USA....Who, based upon recent events, are currently ranked below Afghanistan.
LOL.
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@3RU7AL
Well...One can be objective without being overly scientific.
And science is as complicated or uncomplicated as one cares to make it.
And the term "race" is loosely defined.
So it is really a case of where does one begin categorising and stop sub-categorising.
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@Mesmer
So in not so many words....What is the crux of your contention?
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@drlebronski
Transgender is an adaptation of a primary drive.....Associated concepts and methodologies are nowadays widely promoted as a socially recognisable issues....So certainly qualifies as an ideology.
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@Wylted
Cogito, ergo sum.........Rene Descartes.
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@Mesmer
As I stated to 3RU7AL....Race Realism is a truism....Doesn't take a lot of science to work it out.
As you state above, the science is in understanding the detail.
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@Tradesecret
Come on Trade.
You have no Idea what JTB thought.....That would require a time machine and a very classy mind reading act.
LOL@ the utter...................
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@3RU7AL
Moral capacity is a variable concept, greatly influenced by variable conditioning and not directly relative to mental capacity or incapacity.
Genetic modification and development is such that better and smarter, was/is an inevitability.
In simple terms better and smarter, tends to breed with better and smarter.
And history clearly shows us that better and smarter certainly does have a variable approach to morality.
And physical characteristics are generally pretty standard anyway..... One head, two arms, two legs, with a few cosmetic variations, as it were.
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@Fruit_Inspector
1.Once
2. They can't
3. We can't
4. Profit.....But we would have to be insincere.
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@3RU7AL
For sure...But it's an inevitable outcome of race reality.
Race Realism is a truism......Doesn't take much understanding.
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@Dr.Franklin
Sure is....What will you dress your salad with now.
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@Intelligence_06
If a Nazi is also a femboy, do we really conclude that male cross dressing is racist and authoritarian?
Good question.
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@Wylted
I know.
But did you see the poor woman he directed his comments at.
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@Dr.Franklin
Pomegranates...Big business in Afghanistan Doc.
There might be a world shortage now.....What with climate change and the Taliban.
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@Mesmer
A "critical tenant".......Is someone that complains about the rent.
Notwithstanding that......Everyone is aware of perceivable differences and either does or doesn't discriminate....Therefore, race realism.
Though I would suggest that everyone will discriminate to a certain degree....Human nature.
Education and familiarity will increase tolerance and reduce discrimination....But it's a slow process.
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@Wylted
I would suggest that people who refuse to wear a mask perhaps have cognitive issues.
Just saying.
A bit like that Trump bloke.....Remember him?....The one that drinks disinfectant.
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@Intelligence_06
Communism is for liberal dreamers, Intel.
What you mean is, workers have to work hard in a Totalitarian State.
And liberals would rather idle around talking about stuff, whilst others get on with the hard work.
Hard work makes liberals whine....That and the thought of some poor chap not getting the funding for their hormone therapy and penisectomy.
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@StevenCrowder
Who are "they"?
Though as it stands, the above "they" statement (#1) might be quite logical from a "they" perspective, especially if "they" have Lefty tendencies.
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@Sum1hugme
Afghanistan was an ill thought out revenge thing, in response to the Twin Towers attack.
No lessons learned from history, and so doomed to fail.
Unfortunately the lick arse Brit government of the day, dragged us into the mess too.
And those tough brave boys went into Pakistan and killed that Saudi bloke.
You know......The one that was previously their best mate, when the Soviets were vainly attempting to subdue those tenacious Afghan bandits.
Here we are Osama, have a few rocket launchers and see if you can hit some commi bastards.
Politics hey?
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@TheMorningsStar
Too much information is a general people problem.
Especially if the information is illogical and unnecessary.
Such is the necessity of illogical information though.
Or so it seems.
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@Wylted
Sadly these days the answer is to sit in an office and poke a computer.
Actually getting up and doing something is not so popular anymore.
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@Dr.Franklin
Don't blame me if you run out of pomegranates Doc.
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@Lit
Because that's when some MEN got together and created the story.
Currently the fullness of time is now....Back then it was then.
Christianity and other archaic creation hypotheses, typically teach a whole lot of nonsense.
Jesus and other characters were perhaps based upon real PEOPLE.
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@StevenCrowder
Poverty could easily be resolved if the Human World didn't run on a system of people management that depended upon wealth and poverty.
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@MarkWebberFan
The criteria for admission should be outrageously high.
Such as wearing a plaid shirt and a back to front baseball cap, with no serious consideration for gun control.
1 out of 3 for starters.....And they can soon be fixed up with a shirt and cap.
LOL.
Over here in the U.K.......We have the come on in boys and just do what the fuck you like approach......Seems to work OK.....No guns though.
Knives?....Well, we'll just have to cross that bridge when we come to it.
And what has a Sikh ever done to offend you?
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@Intelligence_06
Powerful influences within the U.S. are inextricably with Israel.
Who pulls who's strings has always been a subject of interest.
It's easy to scoff at Mr Wylted, simply because he is the kid in the playground who it's easy to poke fun at.
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@n8nrgmi
Interesting that you think it was a decision.
Are you suggesting that coral exhibits a high level of consciousness.
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@thett3
Plenty of room in the U.S.
Just not enough room inside your head.
Excuse me, we've caused an almighty fuck up in Afghanistan, so is it OK if you sort out the problem for us..... As we don't actually like the look of Afghanis.
LOL.
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@drlebronski
And notwithstanding that Ebuc was actually referring to Nuclear Power Reactors.
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@Tradesecret
A load of baloney Trade.
Easily rationalized.
Data management, putting an A before the T.
Apart from this there is no real difference between a theist and an atheist.
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@RatMan
I stand corrected.
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@triangle.128k
True.
Borders do not necessarily prohibited cultural and tribal allegiances
Pakistan is probably the conduit for Taliban success, but I expect that the flow of assistance is much more widespread.
The USA was once as complicit in supporting the Taliban as whosoever might be now.
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@Greyparrot
Well stated.
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@RatMan
"Incel subculture" is an inevitable consequence of mainstream social and cultural evolution.
A pre-programmed entity will need to channel it's energy in some direction, if it feels prohibited from functioning as intended.
Population management is perhaps the ultimate solution, though I don't see that happening any time soon.
So we will just have to learn to cope with the "incel-subculture" that we are creating.
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@EtrnlVw
You have a need for a conscious involvement in all things...Which is understandable.
All that a universe requires is the building blocks of evolution and the physical laws that bind them.
Setting things in motion is enough to ensure the outcome.
And GOD will become a conscious intelligence awareness.
Just as other conscious intelligences that precede GOD, will inevitably evolve, from the sequence of events set in motion by GOD.
Therefore it is a continuum.
Spirituality is seemingly an inevitable biproduct of organic intelligence, and as necessary or unnecessary as one cares to presume.
If spirituality is that which motivates, then I will assume that it is necessary.
Future intelligence might only require pure logic.....Who knows?
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@Tradesecret
So:
The creation of one universe is the re-initiation of the previous universe.
Re-initiation requires a GOD principle. Which will be generated by previous intelligence/s.
Therefore we, and what may follow us in terms of alternative intelligence and GOD principle, will eventually bring about the re-initiation of the next universe.
And so the process (evolution of matter) will start all over again.....New life, new intelligence new GOD principle....New religion I expect.
Not sure what sort of ist this makes me.
A Theorist maybe.
Maybe remnants of the old GOD survives the collapse and re-initiation of the old and new universes.....That's as spiritual as I get.
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@MarkWebberFan
Yes.
But Afghanistan is tribal and feudal.
So I doubt that the Taliban will be able to bring any sort of stability to the region.
Who's going to start arming the Northern Warlords and their acolytes?
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@Tradesecret
Based upon the idea that GOD is essentially knowledge ,or if you like, ultimate knowledge....Rather than an entity.
I propose that GOD was previously achieved, and will again be achieved sometime in the future.
We, are somewhere betwixt GODS, and an essential part of the process of accumulating knowledge.
I also propose that Alternative Intelligence will also play a part.
Mythical tales, supernatural beliefs and worship are perhaps an inevitable part of the human process, and so consequently also an essential part of the GOD process. Though the GOD that was and the GOD that we a striving towards would have no regard for such things.
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@Tradesecret
Hello Trade.
I assume that function requires matter.
So as real as thought can be.
I have always promoted the GOD principle.
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@Tradesecret
In my opinion:
GOD is the product of the human computer.
Whether or not a thought is tangible, I could not say..... Though one would assume that the process is....Neurons and synapses and all that.
So I doubt that a GOD is a floaty about bloke in the traditional sense.
Though it could be described as a floaty about thing in a neural sense.
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