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@Greyparrot
George Carlin.
We never heard much from him in the U.K.
But I've listened to him on youtube a few times.
Very incisive.
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@949havoc
St Darwin.
Even Fauxier.
Depends how quickly things will need to adapt.
Though for sure, I doubt that we're talking human extinction events.
Just a succession of more extreme climatic events.
It's perhaps all apart of the bigger picture, in terms of material evolution.
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@Polytheist-Witch
That's what you think that atheists think.
Let's just say that you have a slightly eccentric agenda.
I work and interact with theists on a regular basis.
And we never discuss religion.
Religion is nothing more than a Sunday morning pastime for most theists....Well, the more dedicated ones.
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@Greyparrot
One assumes that all currency will eventually become device controlled.
Though one also assumes that all currencies will always need to have a central point of reference and coherence.
Which is the same as the ongoing system.
Isn't it?
Vendor and purchaser incompatibility would be counterproductive.
Wouldn't it?
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@949havoc
Perhaps semi-true.
And also very Faux.
It is also probably true that human effects, exacerbate climate change.
Though the question is not really....How will climate change affect the planet, in the long term?
But.....How will climate change affect humanity in the short term?
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@Tarik
Ha Ha...Same old then?
I have already specified. Probably many times.
Data is simply accumulated information. (Including misinformation)
In humans, derived through sensory input, stored in the brain and variously analysed and output.
Though just for fun, I will complicate things by saying that inherent or transferred information, is also operational data.
But obviously somewhat different to the above, in terms of acquisition, storage and application.
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@Greyparrot
Me.
I'm very much an abstainer when it comes to voting.
And British, don't forget.
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@Ramshutu
For sure.
From day one, my discussions with Tarik have always been the same.
I sometimes think that they have an underlying ideological or spiritual agenda, but nothing like is ever forthcoming.
Nonetheless, it's all just a compositional exercise for me....Keeping the grey matter ticking as it were.
Their last statement; #264.....Is something of a climb down though.
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@Tradesecret
Testimonials of fact for sure.
But not testimonials of testimonials of testimonials, of the hypothetical super nature that accompanies Middle Eastern myths, that make up the various interpretations of the bible.
There's a whole world of difference between fact and mythical fantasy Trade, as well you know.
Delusional La La Land
Nice Ethanic jibe.
But I know exactly where La La Land is.
It's in Trades head, and currently a GOD is lodging there.
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@thett3
For sure we have regard for self defence. But that isn't decided by a quick look at media footage, by a biased audience.
The whole point of law is to take the application of justice out of the hands of the lynch mob.
Fairness and consideration for all parties.....Including the deceased.
Well, one hopes that's so.
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1. Yes x 2 soon to be 3.
2. Astra Zeneca....(British availability)....I think that the third will be Pfizer.
3. No....Freedom to choose should be the mandate.
4. Don't know....Though I do think that it came from a lab, rather than the natural environment. But I don't think that the virus as any national preferences.
Though under the circumstances, how far left does one need to go before one emerges on the far right?
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@Greyparrot
So all government.
Or just a particular government that you didn't vote for.
Are you democratic?
Or are you autocratic?
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@Tradesecret
Sorry Trade.
But that is all arrogant bunkum.
You have your GOD implanted in your head, as acquired and stored data.
Your GOD is currently not known to be anywhere else.
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@Tarik
Information is not implied to be true at all.
Information can be accurately representative of something, or inaccurate, or even complete nonsense.
Therefore it might be implied that mis-informed information, is designed to deceive, or confuse, or perhaps even amuse.
Nonetheless, all acquired and stored data and subsequent data transfer, deals with information, irrespective of quality.
And although obviously relative to the quality of information. True and false, are only words/expressions we can use to categorize other information.
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@thett3
What happened is irrelevant, in regard to the point I was making.
You implied that someone shouldn't be tried, for killing another person.
Which from a British perspective, seems a rather shoddy application of law.
Surely the facts need to be ascertained in a Court of Law.
Perhaps you're only interested in selective and biased justice.
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@Tradesecret
I know God exists.
That is untrue.
You believe that a God exists.
If a God was actually known to exist, then why wouldn't we all accept the fact.
Gods are the basis of various naive creation hypotheses.
The outdated BIG BANGS, as it were.
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@Tarik
Well the simple fact is, the above user is of the same opinion as me.
We don't argue for each other Tarik....We just agree.
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@Greyparrot
Plutocracism is self fulfilling.
What else do you expect?
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@Tradesecret
Why do you believe? Because you prayed and received a warm fuzzy feeling of peace - and now you know that you know that you know.
Bang on Trade.
Though often, a certain amount of biased preconditioning does help.
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@thett3
Why shouldn't someone that shoots someone, be tried.
Isn't that a basic requirement of the Law.
AH...Silly question....We're talking U.S. here.
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@Tradesecret
The simple fact is, I don't need to do it.
Just as you don't need to prove the existence of a specific GOD.
Though the underlying reality is obvious.
I can prove the Solomon Islands
But you cannot prove your GOD.
And it's inevitably at this point that the theist invokes the strawman.
By saying, ah but you cannot prove that a specific GOD doesn't exist.
So are you saying that I cannot prove that the Solomon Islands exist?
And making someone believe, is both easy and impossible.
And in this instance, it would all depend upon you rather than me.
Though believing, by definition, proves nothing.....Other than a lesser or greater acceptance of certain hypothetical data.
Nonetheless; validate the hypothesis and belief becomes irrelevant anyway.
The fact that the basis of your faith is only belief, currently tells me all that I need to know.
You cannot actually prove the existence of a specific GOD.
And I do not believe in the Solomon Islands.
Because they do exist.
Can you prove that they don't exist.
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@RationalMadman
Well no.
The Soviets got their fingers burnt. Some 10 years before Vlad rose to power. (Surface level stuff)
And the Taliban plays sides..... Any side that will support it.....Previously the U.S.A....Then, perhaps Russia, China, Pakistan etc....And now probably the U.S.A again.
And someone will now be supporting Isis.
Sort of a reasonable status quo I suppose. Concentrating the focus of Islamic instability in the wilds of Central Asia.
Destabilise the weaker Nations of the Middle East.
The nutters will go East to fight, and the moderates will flee to the West.
And as far as I know, Assad is still President of Syria.
Where to next?
Belarus maybe.
Would probably suit all the key players if Alexander was toppled.
Watch this space.
And the Chinese will keep shipping out their stuff.
And the Russians will hopefully keep pumping out their gas.
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@Tarik
Hmmm.
If you read the sentence properly Tarik.
You will see that the "keywords", link misinformation and information.
Misinformation is (false or inaccurate) information.
In fact, you're imparting information, but deliberately trying to deceive me with misinformation.
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@RationalMadman
As I stated, relative to the thread.
Putin is clever and typically Russian.
I never said that he was an Angel.
Nonetheless the Soviets/Russia got their fingers burnt in Afghanistan, and learned a lesson.
It was a pity that the U.S.A. didn't take the same lesson board at the time.
Would have saved 20 years, pointlessly running around Central Asia, chasing after the ghosts of the 9/11 bombers.
Anyway, the Taliban Islamists finally gained control.
And now they're fighting Isis.
Oh Dear me.....Does that mean that the U.S, will once again be supporting the Taliban.
What goes around comes around, as the saying goes.
And Putin and Xi, will watch and smile.
And Syria was a relatively stable nation, until us Western freedom fighters went and fucked things up.
And now they are all camped out on the Polish border seeking the warmth and friendship of their Western saviours.
But now typically, we don't what to know them....NIMBY
And it's probably all the fault of Vlad and Alexander (No angel either).....NIMBY
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@Tradesecret
AKA make believe, in a mythical narrative embellished with fantasy.
Whereas The Solomon Islands are not make believe.
I do not need to go there to know that they exist.
That's the real nuts and bolts Trade, as well you know.
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@Tarik
See above.
Ramshutu obviously uses the same online dictionary.
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@Tarik
I already checked mine before I asked you to check yours.
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@Lemming
For sure.
The construction of ideas is fine.
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@Swagnarok
Hey......Did you expect enduring peace?
Get real...This is post U.S. (and allies) Iraq in flux that we're talking about.
What should Biden do?
Take a nap.
Ah....But what about all that f**king oil.
S**t.
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@949havoc
Better a bunch of "little communists", than a bunch of little zealots.
Well, in my opinion.
So as predicted, height and nose ruled the day in the end.
Such is the fickle nature of U.S. politics.
Us rather than them, as dictated by the floating minority.
2%, That's a heck of a mandate.
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@RationalMadman
That was a biased, western propaganda driven response.
Russia and therefore Putin, do things the Russian way.
Putin is to be expected.
If it wasn't Putin it would be someone else.
And go ask the Afghan people about the perfect U.S.A.
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@Tarik
What are you afraid of Tarik?
My views on human process and function have been made quite clear, countless times.
So now, let's hear it from you.
Or is the semantics game really all that you are interested in?
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@Lemming
I expect that it matters to some people.
Wouldn't matter to me, unless a social construct became an adversely affective dictate.
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@Tarik
That's where your wrong it definitely matters, it all matters.
OK......So explain what it all is that matters......And why.
Open up.
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@Tradesecret
Hmmmm.....I never mentioned pets.....Just hypothetical souls.
Heaven is not hypothetical.
So where exactly is it then.
Undoubtedly.
Well, any hypothesis is hypothetical
Our scientists every year estimate.
Undoubtedly....But what does that prove?
Other than scientists hypothesise.....Which is only to be expected.
And your reference:
To the Solomon Islands.
Is a corker of a strawman argument.
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@3RU7AL
Nope.
Never been an attention seeker, nor committed suicide.
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@Tarik
Data is data Tarik.
Misinformation is information. (Check your dictionary).
Do you have any information, other than semantics, to impart.
Doesn't matter if it's misinformation.
All information can be analysed and responded to.
Though repetition can become tedious.
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@Tarik
Data is data Tarik.
Misinformation is simply reproduced misinformed data.
And as for running around.
Who's in the lead?
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@Polytheist-Witch
You sneaked in when I was eating my rice pudding Poly.
There's a whole world of grammatical and definitive difference between believing and not believing.
You said that atheists believe.
And I pointed out that atheists do not believe.
Theists believe.
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@Lemming
I would suggest that race and ethnicity are constructs, and remain so.
And genetics and species, are constructive appreciations of reality.
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@Polytheist-Witch
@949havoc
A cheese and pickle sandwich.
Yum Yum.
F**k work.
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@Tradesecret
Hypothetical animal souls in a hypothetical heaven.
Undoubtedly.
Hypothetical viruses, bacteria and fungi too.
And hypothetical LGBT orgies.
And hypothetically, what ever one f**king desires.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Atheists believe in no gods.
Nope.
Atheists do not believe in GODS.
This atheist accepts the GOD principle.
But does not accept that fanciful Middle Eastern myths, are likely explanations for the GOD principle.
Old myths have long since been overtaken by technological progress.
GOD is more likely to be a technological derivative, than a floaty about bloke who has his children nailed to posts.
Get real bible bashers.
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@3RU7AL
Failure to commit suicide is attention seeking.
A person with real suicidal intentions will usually succeed.
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@Fruit_Inspector
Nought so daft as folk.
As the say in Yorkshire.
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