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Well you're certainly baked in deistic illogic Mr E.

For example:

There's this floaty about bloke. (Oddly...Northern European in appearance, although originally from the Middle East)

And if your a good boy and say your prayers.

He will forgive you for your sins. ( Whatever a sin is)

And then you will go to heaven when you die. (Where ever that might be)

Depends upon whose astrological BS one listens too I suppose.

So much BS.

DebateArt is an entertainment for sure.

Not that my comments are not sincere.

And  I certainly  don't regard an online debate site as the appropriate location to exhibit the "important" aspects of my private life.

That would be shallow.

Coincidentally:

I just made the light hearted comment elsewhere, that GOD is a virus.

Are you suggesting that this might not be too far from the truth?

GOD is a virus then.

That's the religious argument sorted.

Reality is.

Then......Reality is everything else I suppose.

There is a differentiation to be made between a physical  universal reality, and the reality of internal data manipulation.

The latter is not necessarily representative of the former.

For example:

Just as theists create GODS in their minds......In my mind, I could create the Gas Giant Zarg that orbits the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

Of course neither exists as a physical universal reality.

I like that.

In keeping with tradition the President should be the oldest person on Dart, and certainly not a confused teenager.

N.B. All teenagers are confused.....It's an uncontrollable hormonal thing.

When push comes to shove, an abortion is an abortion and a constitution is a pile of old paper.

Yep......It's all organic data processing.

Amazing when you come to process it.

That an amalgamated and stylized lump of independent organic goo can internally process data.

Did this occur by chance.... No GOD

Was this designed.....A GOD from somewhere.

Or was this and inevitable phase of an inevitable process.....A GOD principle.

I tend to run with the latter......No worship required.

All nonetheless, Creation Hypothesising.

Very true, upon reflection.

I suppose that theism is both bullshit and not bullshit, relative to the both the narrators and a recipients conditioned ideology.

Good point.

Thanks Mr E.

Something of an admission there.....You were probably tired.

Your specific personal GOD is wholly internal and therefore limited by your limitations....And sure this is a consequence of natural function.

But your internally limited assumption that an external GOD exists, is nonetheless based upon a belief in something not actually known to exist in nature.

Therefore your God is currently super-natural.

Methinks that Poly takes things a bit too seriously.

True.

The music industry, is what it is I suppose....Creating and selling a music based product.

Griff is a typical modern music product....Pretty Girl singing catchy lyrics, to a catchy studio produced sound....Promoted with a pseudo-meaningful video.

Old Prog Rockers  will fill venues night after night, simply because of their quality musicianship....I doubt very much that Griff will be doing the same in 30 or forty years time.

Well, they are good at talking bullshit.

And a whole load of fertilized eggs get pissed down the toilet.

And GOD gives a shit?....Metaphorically

LOL

@RatMan

Brits leading the World.

Quran 2: 216

But perhaps you hate a thing that is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing that is bad for you.

And Allah knows, while you know not.

Well if atheists are barred then they can't be in the theist pat on the back club can they?

I don't believe in anything bigger than that which is the biggest thing that it is possible to believe in without making it up.

Namely the Universe.

GOD principle accepted...But not a floaty about bloke.

But then the religious forum  becomes merely a pat on the back club.

Exactly Doc.

You cherry picked 1965.

And stereotyped only 3 ethnic variations of Americans that correspond with your inherited sensibilities.

Very interesting that you don't include Mexicans.....Whose ancestors have been dotting backwards and forwards across the imaginary border line for centuries.

And the Chinese who moved in long before 1965 to build the railroad. 

Etc etc etc.

Age causes Alzheimer's.

Old age is caused by vaccines and other medical interventions.

And vaccine methodology is 200 years old, so creating a new one is not rocket science for experts.

I think that in this instance, speed was regarded to be of the essence.

Stay safe.

Good thinking Batman.

The existence of a GOD or not is the major religious principle.

Yep it is.

A GOD should perchance one exist....Might not be limited by the physical. (Not to be confused with a GOD principle)

But you most certainly are Mr E.

Mr E thinks, therefore he believes in a supernatural GOD.

@RatMan

Pretty little Asian Girl with an a typical voice and tune that failed to hypnotise me.

But I'm an old fart.

Give me some quality prog-rock musicians any day of the week.

I'm a teapot fundamentalist.

But very much acoffeepot.

Would you sing me that Dionne Warwick song please.

I will represent the Taliban if that's OK.

Not that I have Taliban approval.

But it's only fair that they have a voice.

Especially as they are now the U.S's new best mates.

Considering all those presents you left for them.

So I will deliver a new moderate exert from the Holy Koran....To represent the voice of the new moderate Taliban.

Is that OK, Wylty old chap?

And those Atheists can BTFO.

The racial make up of the U.S is roughly;

15% German.

12% African American

11% Mexican

11% Irish

8%   English

7%   American

5.5% Italian

3%   Polish

3%   French

2%   Scottish

2%   Native American

1.5% Puerto Rican

1.5% Norwegian

1.2% Swedish

1.2% Chinese

1%   Asian Indian

1%   Russian

1%   Filipino

1%   Scotch-Irish

1%   West Indian.

And then there's another 10% of odds and sods.

All data from 2021world atlas.com.  (Some percentages rounded up or down for ease of calculation)

So who should stay where Doc?

It looks like only about 2% have any real heritage.

And then some might say that relative to proximity Mexicans are more entitled than the Irish.

Depends upon how one chooses to cherry pick history and appropriate stereotypes I suppose.

Just saying Doc....The U.S. is already very much a mongrel nation.....So a bit of Afghan DNA  ain't going to make a whole lot of difference.

Other than in your head perhaps.

And just out of interest....How does one differentiate between Irish, Scottish and Scotch-Irish.

Just stay safe, and don't be the next one who wished that they had heeded sound advice, rather than believed the nonsense of some political conspiracy theorist.

And as for a vaccine...Of course it won't prevent you from contracting covid....If someone coughs virus infected fluid droplets  into your face, then you will inhale them.

Vaccination means you will already have antibodies in your system to fight the virus. 

There's nothing new about vaccines, they've been around for two hundred years or more and haven't wiped out mankind yet.

In fact, vaccines have helped to greatly increase life expectancy over that period.

The only difference between atheist and a theist is a space.

All relevant internal data is the same.

It's just that data output can be variable.

For example:

There is GOD, no.

Is there no GOD.

There is no GOD.

See what I mean.

"Conniptions"....Nice word and a new one to me.

Though I am neither liberal nor connipted.

I remain apolitical and equanimous.

In order for you to be able to transmit data, then said data must be formerly acquired and stored within your database.

Irrespective of whether or not there is an existent GOD, you are wholly reliant upon internal function.

No brain in Mr E.....Then no GOD for Mr E.

Covid is airborne if a host ejects it in liquid particles.

The mask is therefore a preventative barrier.

Once said particles are contained within the mask, the virus does not then decide to sneak out and start flying around looking for a target.

A virus does not think, does not see and does not have legs or wings.

A chain link fence will prevent the movement of an object and consequently also prevent the movement of anything contained within that object.

A mask is a  logical common sense preventative measure....Never intended to be a cure all.

I bet that Mr Wallace wished that he had been a bit more sensible....And he was only 30 years of age.

Stay safe.

Well you said that we were in agreement.

And Stephen also agreed.

So that makes three.

See above.

My standpoint is always the same....It is only possible to speculate about 2000 year old events.

I propose nothing other than, you cannot read 2000 year old minds. 

It was you that initially proposed to know what JTB thought.

Primary thoughts and secondary narrative are two distinctly different things.....And the latter certainly does not validate the former.

He must have overlooked the AND REPUBLICANS bit...LOL

He's full of the Blarney....Begorrah.

What the modern NT states is not the same as what a real JTB might have thought.

He might have thought, whose this fucking interloper stealing my thunder.

To assume a Messiah and a Baptist is one thing....But to claim that you can read their minds is pushing things a bit too far Trade.

GOD is in your head Mr E, no?

GOD the idea is unavoidable.

So it is in my head too....It's just a different idea to yours.

Atheism and theism are separate ideas.....But obviously relative ideas.

Because said experiences are hallucinations based upon stored data.

Near death is not death....Therefore it is not possible to view an actual afterlife.

An over the counter mask will stop you spreading the virus.

The virus is spread in small liquid particles....It doesn't just sneak out by itself.

So unless people lick the snot of the inside of your mask they will be somewhat safer than if you have no mask and you just eject snot all over the place.

Common sense Mr S.....Not rocket science.....Stay safe.

Or are you just being stupid for the sake of politics?

Nonetheless...Stay safe.

Abstain.

Access denied.

Then embrace an Afghani.

God will love you for it.

As I said Doc...Crazy mixed up people.

All hypothetical.

I think all three of us are in agreement then.

Good.

All hypothetical peeps.

Only the story tellers knew what they were on about.

I think that the thirteenth disciple Maggie Delaney, referred to hairy Mary the tart with a heart....Though her lover Ged preferred to keep it quiet....And her boyfriend dumb Joe never said a great deal.

And little Josh went a bit wild and got into all sorts of trouble with the authorities....Something to do with broken homes and deception.

Well....That's how I interpret things.

What is a half breed?

Well everyone is a half breed I suppose, in so much as they have two parents.

PSSSSST.

Rumour has it that there might be some Afghan women coming onto the market quite soon.....Just need a bit of converting.