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HaHa.

The plausible alternative is that the tale is pure fantasy.

Somewhat sums up the whole stupid contradiction.

He was probably hiding in a cupboard or behind a curtain Stephen.

Would make a great comedy sketch, with J jumping out, shouting hallelujah and doing the jazz hands thing.

Probably by drinking too many spirits.

Procreation V Acquired social convention.

Such is the evolution of our species I suppose.

As profound as you want it to be.

As clear as mud.

What's new?

And so what two cleanly divisible categories are you alluding to.

Marriage is a contractual agreement, ultimately only  applicable when said marriage breaks down, or for financial considerations such as taxation and assets.

Family is a construct, and marriage certainly isn't an absolute requirement thereof. 

Raising children and sustaining a long term partnership is absolutely not guaranteed by marriage...This can only be guaranteed by the sensibilities of responsible individuals.

Marriage is a ritual..... These days somewhat loosely maintained by religion and cultural inheritance.

Everything that can supposedly be achieved by marriage, can be achieved without marriage. 

Death alleviates some of the burden that the Earth endures.

Some might argue that there's not enough of it about....... Death not burden

And "tragedy" is overthink. 

What is marriage anyway.

It's an unnecessary relationship contract, embellished with a load of frippery and as big a party as can be afforded.

And then back to the same old daily routine of eating, working, sleeping and a bit of recreational how's your father. 

Until divorce or death do us part.

Concepts are philosophical.

And a god's omniscience is an assumption.

One can also refer to freewill philosophically, in contexts other than established religions.

A reasonably liberal society allows us more freedom to choose, but social programming is inevitably the basis of our choices.

Religion is just a greater or lesser part of social programming.

In my opinion Adam and Eve were just an analogy, in an ancient and naive text.

We will have to disagree on this one.

As I stated previously, all new vaccines are experimental.

So what is the experimental vaccine that you referred to....#14

And I chose:

1. Heart Disease....So, mandatory  health advice and education, and mandatory food standards within the  food processing industry.

And I'm pretty confident that Governments will not mandate confinement, treadmills and salads.

People readily criticise government and yet readily expect Nanny State to pic up the pieces when the shit of self abuse hits the proverbial fan.

It's always a no win situation for Governments.

Consider the process Doc.

How random can random  be?

Ultimately a random choice is an internal choice, subject to internal data analysis.

More like a snap decision perhaps?

Good question.

And currently I cannot offer an  answer.

Let's see what others have to say.

Sounds convincing.

If you had been raised by Muslims, would you be a Christian?

And I did imply that an assumed random choice, is a choice for a reason....So therefore not actually random.

And freewill calculated in advance, is calculated in advance for a reason.

Calculation requires internal data assessment  predicated upon acquired and stored knowledge.

Given the nature of the beast, freewill is probably not a possibility.

Freedom to make informed choices is probably as good as it gets.

If you don't want a vaccine, then don't have one. Ultimately it's your choice.

And all vaccines are initially experimental.

Fortunately, and thanks to previously experimental vaccines I haven't contracted polio, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, smallpox, TB etc.

And given these and other advances in medical intervention, I will more than likely live a whole lot longer than I would of 150 years ago.

So what's your real beef?

I would suggest, probably just a lifestyle affecting virus.

And the little critter ain't listening.

On line, remote, fun debating.

 

To be addressed responsibly

But not to be taken too seriously

More important things to consider, elsewhere.

All that is required is

Good conduct

No whinging.

Who is the woman in the new profile pic Doc?

One is free to choose, but one inevitably chooses for a reason.

If one decides to make a random choice, then one does for that reason. Therefore the choice ceases to be random.

That is an assumption.

My response directly addressed the question, but perhaps not in the way that you expected.

So:

1. Heart Disease.....Early onset heart problems are commonly resultant of a neglectful lifestyle, in terms of fitness and diet....Though as I alluded to above, in a liberal democracy, how does the State mandate and enforce a healthy lifestyle.

The State can only attempt to educate and advise, which it probably already does.

Science is science Doc.

And rhetoric is rhetoric.

There's no getting away from the trust that the public have invested in science.

Humans are both decipherable and programmable.

We are led to believe that all outcomes are genetically encoded, and therefore decipherable

And we output data and behave, in a way that we were inadvertently conditioned to be.....We are genetically programmed  and  data conditioned.

One should expect to die.

And one should not expect that governments will  be able to make a great deal of difference

A lot of early onset physiological disorders, can be avoided by having a serious regard to diet and fitness.

And then sometimes shit happens.

The government can advise, but don't expect it to drag you from the TV, swap the burger for salad and stick you on a bicycle.

And there's probably shit all that governments can do when shit happens.

Please put "BINARY" into context.

As I am not certain of the implication of the question.

Sorry, but I don't understand the significance of the comment.

Perhaps you could explain.

Well, your definition is variable, extending to potential associates and strangers whereby trustworthiness and "good guys" is very much speculative.

And of course, expected levels of assistance are also going to be variable.

Another politically motivated dig Mr Faux.

What do you think that Donald would be doing now, if the positions had been reversed?

@Theweakeredge.

You have just contradicted yourselves.

If you think that it's OK  to promote one human or civil rights issue, whilst simultaneously denying another.

And if you separate two things with a "vs" you are clearly  promoting an idea of discrimination.

And tolerance is an individual trait, and not always a two way thing.

Interestingly the Bible is similarly contradictory.

You're both jousting from high horses.

Detergent.

And a load of other stuff that you didn't necessarily want, but found irresistible.

Depends upon how you define the "group".

Next time, just pick someone that knows what they are doing.

Either a competent Republican or a competent Democrat.

Is the best that the U.S can come up with really just a Buffoon or a Geriatric?

And from our perspective (UK) it was no wonder that the American people realised which was the lesser of the two evils.

At least here in the U.K. we have a reasonably competent, and comparatively youthful Prime Ministerial Buffoon.

And the Queens is Head of State, and she's only 95....LOL

But I never vote for any of them...So you can't blame me.

And Doc...The first rule of politics is misinformation.

Never make a definitive statement.

Always beat about the bush, as it were.

You should have realised that by now Doc.

Bush was an expert bush beater.....But with a winning smile.

Second rule of politics...A winning smile.

Or in Boris's case, a cheeky grin.

Yep.

As I suggested  human nature/normal behaviour.

What an amazing hotchpotch of ideas.

Simone....Undoubtedly an outstanding gymnast.

I'm sure that there will be more to this than meets the eye.

The ability to cope mentally in  high level, technically and physically demanding gymnastics disciplines, is as essential as physical ability.

All her competitors are under the same pressures.

For such people fallibility is never an option, but fallibility is the inevitable reality.

Interesting if accurate.

But just exemplifies human nature.

He became a charismatic figurehead who enthralled the masses.

A bit like D Trump

A bit like A Hitler

What does this really say about the rest the dimwits who allow themselves to become spellbound......Human nature too, I suppose.

Bronski Beat.

Smalltown Boy.

You were going well until this point...And then you got all irrational and prejudiced.

Desperation is usually driven by other factors, rather than by having an alternative point of view.

And "kinda sketchy" is itself kinda sketchy.

The Doc's cool.

To be honest.

I found the OP somewhat confusing .

So I gave a somewhat satirical reply.

I think perhaps others were of the same mind, and therefore appreciated my response.

Ok.

Yep.

Another Zedku Doc.

Technology is always vast ....It was vast when our ancestors learned the ability to create and control fire.....And so on.

Technology has currently evolved to a certain point, but will get vaster.

And religion is no less an assumption for sure, and the religious GOD principle is the same as any GOD principle.

Though looked at rationally through todays eyes, associated religious myths can clearly be seen for what they are.

It's only stubborn data transfer that perpetuates belief in such myths.

And "Almighty God" is a pertinent reference to any GOD principle.

And Genesis I'm sure is the first part of the acronym, but I haven't worked out what the OD stands for yet.  

Humans are basically humans for sure, evolutionary modifications of the organic are very slow.

Though human inspired evolutionary modifications of the inorganic and organic are much swifter and gathering apace.

The hierarchy of intelligence is what is important, and the barbarians are easily controlled by the intellectual elite....Take a look at the history books.

It only takes one human to inspire immense change.

And to stop the ball rolling you just need a steep enough hill.