zedvictor4

Well. 

Right and wrong in this context is a construct relative to a biased point of view.

And therefore a biased viewpoint promoted in schools  by a biased  social sub-group, should itself be subject to similar moral scrutiny.

Or preferably, best not promoted in schools at all.

Sperm, egg reproduction fine.

Recreational sex.....Will they be introducing practical hands on demonstrations of all the available options?

No...Just some mildly embarrassed teacher waffling on about how it's ok to have your dick cut off.....Sound advice.

Though as I keep saying....Most kids will already know this stuff, and will  already have seen the video's.

@RatMan.

Are you with the Debateart thought Police.

And you're supposed to be ignoring me.

In order for the block to work, you need to ignore.

Otherwise, you defeat your objective.

Inherent ability.......Dictates power, which in turn dictates social hierarchy, or vice versa....The two go hand in glove.

And his inherited $300,000 didn't get  squandered on fast cars and women did it....He clearly possessed the ability to know what to do with it.

Though you're quite right, anyone can inherit inability or weakness....But in terms of business success and associated power and status, Jeff Bezos clearly didn't.

Nonetheless, in respect of the O.P......He didn't get where he is today by sitting on his arse all day watching TV.

@RatMan

The snowball effect is nearly irrefutable.

So it's refutable then?

And your inability to recognise satire, results in slurs such as bigotry.....Which is no more than we expect from RatMan.

Inheritance.

Yep inheritance, good point....Explains a lot if you care to think about it rationally and unemotionally.

And discrimination based upon perceivable differences doesn't snowball, it is constant.

If we were all displayed a darker skin tone we would still discriminate, as did continental Africans long before lighter skinned Europeans came along. Though interestingly the Spanish display a wide variation of skin tone.

Nope..... "Black" Jamaica has jumped aboard the current gravy train of  racially motivated P.C.  

Poor Black Man, Nasty White Man...Give us your money, and lots of it.

Will that change to the past?.....No, it's just designed to line the pockets of  corrupt and discriminatory Jamaicans.

That's the thing...We all actually live for now, it's referred to as survival....Memory and the past is just a convenient and useful survival tool.

If only one could be bothered to read.

Soundbites is what most people want.

Hopefully that would suggest that the U.S. vaccination program and other preventative measures are working.

Here in the U.K. Though covid infections are still prevalent, serious problems and deaths have now been significantly reduced, thanks to the rapid vaccination roll out and adherence to social distancing advice.

Vaccination comes with a minimal risk, as does going to the supermarket, but the benefits far outweigh the risks.

And conspiracy theories abound.....And  conspiracy theorists, skim read a bit of social media propaganda and then promote themselves as scientific experts.

And the fact remains that thanks to scientific study and the development of medical interventions, we all live a whole lot longer than we would have done without it.

Yep...Should have stayed at home.

I wouldn't be astonished at all.

If a milkable system is provided, then people will milk it......It's what is known as a liberal society.

It's one of the reasons why the U.K. has to import labour.

Notwithstanding that everything that is supposedly objective, is fundamentally subjective.

In this case what you are proposing is the teaching of a biased subjective opinion (State indoctrination)....Which is nothing new I suppose, as we've been promoting religion in schools for centuries.

It would be more objective to give kids both sides of the argument and allow them to make up their own minds about recreational sex.

Or as I stated previously....Leave it to social media.

Should have stayed at home.

"The contrast is significant"..... If you want it to be....And so you will interpret accordingly.

I think that you would only get banned for expressing your thoughts.

Not thought crime per se.....But edging in that direction.

Freedom of speech/expression has long since been out the window.....Depending upon one's skin tone of course.

Light skinned racist bad...Boooooooo.

Dark skinned racist good...Hoorah.

Don't they all.

And who came up with that arbitrary amount.

And whose pockets will it end up in.

And I suggest.... If history is that intolerable, than relocate back to Africa....Perhaps you will find some solace there....I doubt it though, you will probably be grinding the racist axe for evermore you handful of racist hypocrites.

I think it's fair to say that sensible people of all origins and all skin colour variations, moved on a long time ago...

And most Jamaicans are probably happy with Jamaica.....But wouldn't say no to a free hand out....Though I doubt if any of the 7 billion would end up in their pockets.

Have you never had any vaccination?

In other words, recreational sex education.

Which I'm pretty certain, most kids learn about from social media.

Why waste time with it in schools.

What you are wanting, is for schools to promote a biased opinion.

Very true.

Foul play has always been a part of the game.

And Italy dominated.

And as one would expect, England lost the penalty kicking contest.....It's become something of a tradition.

Not to worry....World Cup soon.

Discriminate:   Recognize a distinction, differentiate.....Oxford dictionaries.

Data in, data assessment, difference perceived, output variable. It happens in less than the blink of an eye, and you will discriminate, it's human nature and absolutely unavoidable.

How one consciously manages ones data processing and output is is what you are referring to....How we might or might not choose to  behave prejudicially  towards others who we have perceived to be different.

And even though we may carefully manage our responses,  formative data conditioning will inevitably dictate some level of prejudicial thought.

Perceived difference does not necessarily mean visual appearance, we will discriminate in response to all aspects of data input....If a Debateart member states an opinion that is contrary to ones acquired values, one will discriminate and respond accordingly.....Recognize a difference in an individuals  values.

And social law is a secondary collective construct....Currently there is no such thing as thought crime....Though we are undoubtedly edging in that direction. 

And if you want to discriminate on the basis of  how one chooses to define "naturally systemic".......Then how about natural systems.

There's a whole bigger evolutionary and sociological picture, that your simplistic argument  does not take into account.

Very briefly:

Inherent ability dictates social hierarchy and the the tool we have devised to define success within the hierarchical system is called money.

So the higher up the pecking order one is, the more money one will have.

The availability and value  of commodities and their derivatives, is an inevitable outcome of the system.

This is the reason why True Socialism remains a philosophical pipe dream.

I try to be a realist.

But ultimately everything in the Universe is real.

In human terms it all boils down to a conceptual choice.

Perhaps some choices are more rational than others.

But who or what is to judge?

Probably.

But they are not necessarily a definitive indicator of how one will develop.

Discriminating against criminals would also be a crime then.

How would a non-discriminating system work?

Jeff Bezos is the reason why people work for him.

I've never been there so I wouldn't know.

If you mean do I hate all Iranians....Then  no.....I don't hate any Iranians

I just dislike backwards thinking.....Particularly stupid religious ideology and the forced conditioning thereof.

As I keep telling y'all.

Everyone discriminates.

It's human nature.

So it's going to be nationally systemic, and also systemic in all racial sub-groups.

Despite what we are led to believe, racial/colour discrimination isn't an exclusively  White European condition.

"Hard work" never makes a fortune.

Jeff Bezos is a successful entrepreneur.

He has the same amount of time available, as we all do.

Iran is a Nation of people controlled by backwards thinking  bullies.

Backwards thinking bullies who themselves were controlled by backwards thinking bullies.

If you teach your kids nonsense, they will grow up believing in nonsense.

Such is culture.

Yet another penalty kicking contest Doc.

No religion is better.

@RatMan

At the end of the proverbial day, is there much difference between a shit beating neo-nazi and a shit beating hardline anarchist.

All just shit beaters really.

All brawn and no brains, as it were.

It's far too late anyway Doc.

Did you just marry someone Doc?

I always find this an interesting  topic.

Because procreation is the necessity and recreational sex is the derivative thereof.

If you have a penis, testicles and produce sperm, then you are a fully reproductive male.

So not participating in normal reproductive sex is a choice, as is where you might stick your equipment for fun.

 

What you choose to do with your equipment for pleasure, should be of no concern.....(And I stress, is of no concern to me)

But what also strikes me is...... What is nowadays loudly promoted as the social norm in liberal societies, still isn't quite the social norm. There is still an underlying element of taboo and consequential justification needed in such discussions.

Why?....Because procreation is the inherent drive and recreational sex is the acquired derivative thereof... Whether that be a physiological acquisition or a sociological acquisition.

Nonetheless......There's already 7.9 billion people clogging up this planet...So make love...Not babies.

Terror is....For sure.

Well....Future value is a financial term, relative to the value of an investment.

However, in this context, it is the assertion that future generations of life have value.

At the end of the day it's all about people, and the normal but seemingly bizarre stuff that they get up to.

A whole lot of nodding and wailing at some imaginary guy in the sky.

A distraction for the masses I suppose....Whilst the innovators get on with innovating.

Here's a new bomb you dumbasses, go and play with each other and have some fun.....LOL 

Such is the evolution of intelligence, hey Bro.

All good fun.

Which definition of "sus" are you applying to Rick Astley.

Big business, so it ain't going to happen.

Notwithstanding that there is estimated to be over 400 million guns in circulation anyway. So already out of control.

As we saw at the end of the Trump debacle, insurrection is easily motivated....It will only take one Charismatic nutter to motivate the gullible and their guns.

And you certainly can't rely on  Law Enforcement Officers to be impartial.

Reliance on the goodwill of the people, is a knife edge thing.

A person of Middle Eastern heritage will have a shared ancestry with various ideological adherents.

Though selective breeding will no doubt refine DNA.

No one has a clue if Adam or Eve actually existed, let alone what they looked like.

Though one would assume,  that they would actually have been fairly swarthy  and hairy in appearance.

Stylised images are what they are.

And we all descended from goo, and what colour that was I don't know....Perhaps it was green. 

And CRT is usually expounded by critical racists.

Or are we discussing Cathode Ray Tubes.

Is that so?

You will always find that someone is always controlling something, irrespective of  label.

The hierarchy of natural ability, as it were.

Put two people on a desert Island and one would take control.

The level of fairness in a society, depends upon collective thinking and sensibilities contained therein.

Do you feed the poor or let them starve to death....You feed them...But you don't provide them with a luxury apartment and a Ferrari.

Any gang with a propensity for violence is a terrorist group.  

@RatMan

If it was an England v Iran final, I expect that the Doc would be cheering on the Middle Easterners.

It all boils down to potatoes....Or the lack of.

And the Orange Dutchman didn't help of course.

I wonder who the Doc would support in an England v Netherlands final.

Luck, staying fit and consuming a balanced diet, and of course intermittent medical intervention, is what will hopefully prolong life.

Without medical intervention most people on this site would be dead by now.

Coffee isn't the elixir of life.....But that is not to say that it doesn't possess certain beneficial properties.

Though like a lot of beneficial things, over consumption often results in negative effects.

@RatMan

I read any thread that looks interesting, and comment accordingly.

The above comment that I responded to was certainly worthy of a response.

And I have cats and terriers. And terriers are by far the better ratters.

Pussy....In my mind, registers as quite an erotic word.

Racism is racism....It's a natural phenomenon dictated by internal processing.

Discrimination is the natural effect....It's unavoidable but manageable.

Some people are better at managing their responses than others.

Did GOD create us or did we create GOD.

Only contradictory if you don't bother to think about it.

Both.

Means both.

As I stated elsewhere.

We're all limited by the limited data we have available.

@RatMan

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Now, don't over do it Ratty.

Congratulating doubtless positivity......That just wouldn't do.

A true 100% trustworthy friendship is a very rare thing indeed.

I would suggest that generally we make good acquaintances.

My wife and daughters are my best friends and the only people that I trust implicitly.