zedvictor4

So you don't know then.

Please be less of an asshole.

Can you please clarify this somewhat random statement.

And people do not usually fight for compass points.

And could they care less, or could they not care less?

And wherein lies a specific connection to Judaism?

I think that you will find that, slave traders and owners tended to have a Christian or Catholic bias.

Don't think that I ever mentioned toes.

And things manifest as they do for sure...But all such manifestations are subject to internal processes, to which we can subsequently attribute logic or illogic.

And your favoured use of the word retarded, is unfortunately, somewhat self indicative.

And definitions are not random if they directly relate to something stated previously.

And if I should try Nootropics.....Perhaps you should try Ritalin.

And you can comment on any of my posts....As the whole purpose and fun of the exercise is in formulating a response.

So are you saying that apart from the Police, everyone else is a model citizen.

And would you happily walk alone at night in a "Black Neighbourhood".

And the trouble with instances such as the above case you highlighted, is that these days the media tends prefer only one side of the story.

Nasty white cop abuses lovely upstanding black citizen....Is currently what sells.....How can one come to  an unbiased decision if one is only told half the story.

Though that is not to suggest that all white cops are perfectly motivated.

And Joe Biden discriminates internally....But so do we all, including every "Black" person.

N.B. Usually I refer to skin tone rather than incorrectly to Black and White.....I did so here as it seemed pertinent to my response.

No one is black and no one is white.....And to perpetuate the myth, is to perpetuate racism, and that applies to all people of all skin tones.

Notwithstanding physiological anomalies. There's nothing whatsoever confusing about the difference between a penis and a vagina.

Nor is there anything confusing about their intended purpose.

Mixed social messages relating to procreational urges and associated recreational sex is where the confusion arises.

As a species we have developed a social tendency, to overlook and misinterpret the intended purpose of our sex organs.

Penis in vagina = procreation.

Penis up another blokes backside = recreation.

Simple.

Living together, acquiring a mortgage and a nice new fitted kitchen, and then settling down with a new puppy = Social construct.

Experiment and choose.

Nonetheless. 7.9 billion and counting, so a lot of people are still getting the hang of it.

That's all conveniently subjective though.

When does a disorder not correlate to genes.

Harassment is only relative to  social behaviour. 

And "Gays" can choose not to participate in homosexual acts.

Dispassionately, there is no special distinction to be made between G and P.....The only difference is how they relate to currently accepted social behaviour.

Everything physiological correlates to the state of genes.

Though "Gay" is a social construct that correlates to human data management.

Controversial question:

Therefore, does the paedophile also possess a sexuality that correlates directly to the state of genes?

Absolutely.

Offence is in the head of the recipient , rather than in the head of the sender.

Though I fail to see how your previous  comments and prediction could be construed as being irrelevant and offensive.

So I stand by my conclusion, that the RatMan is perhaps a tad too oversensitive.

And perhaps also, they strive too much to be the voice of PC.

As you exemplified above, neither certain traits nor better traits, are necessarily perfect traits....In fact, certain traits can be profoundly undesirable.

Desirability  would seem to depend  as much upon the circumstance, as it does upon the trait itself. 

And better at what?

Wherein do you see the necessity for a specific betterness?

I would suggest, technological development.

I would also suggest that a diverse gene pool is always beneficial.

Pedigrees have a tendency to develop genetic flaws.

As far as we are able to know, everything is real.

And realistically, being "gay" doesn't matter, to anything other than thinking people. Which is why we have these discussions.

Though realistically, and notwithstanding physiological anomalies, humans are only humans, that can typically and realistically only be sub-categorized into male and female procreational bodies.

Whereas "gay" is a social construct relative to a male recreational sex methodology.

@RatMan

You're far too sensitive.

How can honesty be offensive?

"Feelings"....What actually  are feelings.

I would suggest that what you mean, is an internal response, based upon internally stored data.

A process that is manifesting somewhat illogically..

For sure....It all starts with education....And will evolve slowly.....There's no magic wand solution.

For sure, we find it necessary to sub-categorise...Academically discriminate, as it were.

And "white privilege" without a doubt....Social evolution as it were..

Trouble is, we expect established data to modify at the click of our fingers, and it just doesn't happen.

We have too much of a tendency to dwell in the past.....One of the drawbacks of memory and recall.

The current record is about 3.5 seconds....Quick hands Doc!

Back in the day (45 years ago) I could easily do it in less than a minute.

But I've long since forgotten the method.

Nothing uglier than a women's arms legs and face covered in an inky mess.

Some Tattooists may be very good. But the indelible scars are permanently bad.

The odd small tattoo that can be easily covered is Ok I suppose..... But unnecessary.

So what's the big deal with self-disfigurement?

Explain the "Hews".

In short:

All Jews shall have long noses.

All except Aaron.

And he'll have a square one.

Well.....That's what I was told.

The stoned age.......Bang on Doc.

Abraham was stoned, I've been saying that all along.

Nonetheless indicative of an illogical thought process.

As is.......I hate foster parents for no real reason other than myself.

True.

Everyone discriminates internally, but not everyone externalizes their discrimination unreasonably.

So......We see, internally assess and conclude, that your skin has a darker tone than ours (discrimination).   But we respect your individuality.

In the wider context of the social inequality of self defining sub-groups.... The term "Racism" has become a powerful, political tool....Though  sub-groups have a tendency to somewhat counterintuitively self discriminate  in the process.

I have a darker skin tone than you, therefore I should be treated differently. (Irrespective of my abilities and social responsibilities.)

Nonetheless there is an observable and positive evolution of data, skin tone, and ability.....But not as rapid a process as some would unreasonably expect.

N.B. The above comments are  designed only to represent current and observable Western trends.....But  could be applied globally to represent all instances where  discrimination based upon perceivable difference occurs.

Who's not good at logic?

I am Caucasian by definition, but sweat freely.  Does that make me a racist?

Though, am I racist because I am not Korean.

No.

Racism is about unreasonably discriminating on the basis of perceivable difference, and not about ones particular propensity to perspire.

Everyone discriminates internally but not everyone allows their internal judgements to manifest externally.

For sure, there is currently a whole lot of malicious PC racism going on....But that's largely  based upon the possibility of a cash reward.....Fraud.

Interestingly my wife sweats very little....So does that suggest that she is Korean?

"Gay" is an established social construct, relative to a specific recreational sex methodology.

There is no such thing as a "Gay gene" per se....Maybe a genetic coding that might affect a conscious choice to perform a particular recreational sex act.

Though there is certainly a whole lot of social nurturing going on too....If you make a sex act socially acceptable then more people will give it a go and probably enjoy the experience.....After all, enjoyment is the secondary purpose of recreational sex.

Nonetheless.

If I chose to only have recreational sex with sheep, would I therefore be able to justify my actions  by  saying that I  possessed a Baaaa gene, and had no choice?

And just to make Theweakerone's hair curl......Why do we not attribute paedophiles with a Kiddy gene?.....Perhaps they have no choice either.

If you're going to be absolutely PC non-discriminatory, then it's got to be SLGBTPQ.

Why just a "Gay gene"?

In fact, can any choice action that seemingly strays from a social norm be justified by a no choice gene?

So Doc......How are 4 year old dodgy buses, the fault of the DNC?

That would be like me blaming the Conservative Party for my dodgy washing machine.

Unrefreshingly, is this just turning into another futile dig at the Democrats?

I did have my suspicions  Doc.

A formal debating contest is something that I don't have time for.

But I'm happy to discuss.

So, to confirm divinity you must first  prove an actual GOD, rather than a hypothetical GOD.

A formal debate will not prove an actual GOD, but only compare the literary abilities and level of knowledge relative to a subject.

To date, the highest levels of knowledge and literary skill have only ever managed to elucidate an elaborate, supernatural hypothesis, and never been able to prove an actual GOD.

But feel free to have a go.

So what is divinity other than the concepts and consequent faith of men?

Some things that you say are stupid.

And some things that you say  are more stupid than others.

Sin is make believe really.

A bit like hypothetical GODS.

@RatMan

Words of wisdom.

Buses.

A refreshing change from religion and politics Doc.

Electric bus systems have been successfully in operation for decades, admittedly with an external power supply.

So probably the build and battery quality as oromagi points out, and not the viability of the concept.

Should have sourced quality engineering from abroad.......Like what we do Doc.

True.

If we ever get to such a point, "too many people" would  be defined by unsustainability.

It's there  in 18 words.

Why  say in a 1000 words, what can be said in 18.

So prove that it is a GODS will and not just the will of men.

NB. All literature is  written by humans...So it's no good whatsoever, quoting from old or reinterpreted literature.

@Theweakeredge

A hot headed answer and wrong in every regard. Your information regarding sexuality might be spot on PC, but the PC agenda seeks to overlook the reality of the issue in order to justify an action...... And as far as I am concerned an action that doesn't need justifying.

If you read my response dispassionately you would see that I was agreeing  that "biological impulses are noncontrollable".....FLRW was  stating the obvious.

Though the question was about choice and not about brain function per se, and choice is about making a conscious decision, and conscious decisions by definition are controllable.

Fundamentally, the noncontrollable impulse is telling the organism to procreate, and procreational sex has but one natural modus operandi.

Therefore to adopt any other course of action is to choose not to procreate, but to choose between a wide variety of other recreational options.

The outcome of any action will nonetheless be the same....Temporary satisfaction of the urge to reproduce.

What else might affect one's impulses and consequent choices, is not relevant to the question.

Overriding natural impulses and indulging in "Gay" recreational sex, although seemingly preferential is still undeniably a choice. Other options are available.

All that said....What ever method of recreational sex you might might find preferential and therefore choose to adopt is absolutely fine by me, and does not require PC justification.

Just as your childish choice to block me, is absolutely fine too.

As far as we are able to know, "trash" is an assumption based upon an alternative point of view.

Well, if they are killed we will know that their suspicions were correct.

Though now the story is out, it might be just a crank acting upon fake news.

Shit!

So why should there not be post vax breakthrough clusters?

Probably true, that perception does stimulate a specific mediodorsal thalamus response.

If you think about it, everything relative to function relies upon perception stimulating brain activity stimulating function. Is there any other option?

So one could apply  the same argument to a hundred and one other, different contradictory attitudes.

For instance, why am appalled at the thought of eating witchetty grubs.....This is obviously an acquired response, stimulated by brain activity.....Nonetheless I still have the choice available.

And  the OP is about choice, and choice is deciding between two or more options.

In terms of recreational sex there are multifarious options.

In terms of procreational sex there is only one option....Though one can choose not to partake in such activities.

And "Gay"  and all it's associated social paraphernalia, is a social construct, relative to a particular penchant for recreational homosexual activity.

Well stated.

Is it Allah's will that people should not be free to choose.

No, it's the will of men.

A virus doesn't float about looking for unvaccinated targets.

We might all have the same opportunities available.

But we do not all possess the same ability to utilise such opportunities.

Oppression has occurred throughout history, and is far from a white and black thing.

Cherry picking one specific era of oppression relative to skin tone, simply to extract a financial reward. Is to say the least a tad cynical.

At worst, somewhat racist.

To the last point....Good point....Think about it, and apply it to the whole issue of recreational sex.....Even straight.

Though "ashamed" is perhaps an inappropriate word.

There is procreational and recreational sex.

You can choose to partake in either, and recreationally you can choose whatever modus operandi  you prefer.......No problem.

Male, female copulation and fertilization, defined by their physical attributes, is straight....How straight do you require it?

The same persons can enjoy whatever mode of recreational sex they choose, doesn't make their capabilities any less straight.

LGBTQ.... No matter how you dress it up, is a social construct relative to the taboo subject of recreational sex and the justification thereof.

Notwithstanding physiological anomalies..... Every male or female is born with either male or female reproductive organs.....That is one definition of straight.

How one chooses to satisfy corresponding urges recreationally is another issue....Straight in this context simply defines one modus operandi.

Have you ever considered why these contentious discussions only ever consider LGBTQ and not SLGBTQ?

Of course they do.

The brain decides relative to it's programming.

Whether that be physiological or psychological.

Recreational sex is just a way of satiating the singular male or female urge to reproduce......Attraction is an irrelevance in this context.

The whole partner, relationship, mortgage and puppy thing is just a socially contrived system of accepted behaviour.

When have you ever known the Globe to agree on anything.

Nope, the only real solution is a catastrophic event.

Discrimination is an unavoidable, internal data management process.

How different is Joe Biden to any other 78 year old American Caucasian?

Yet you choose to discriminate here on Debateart.

As I stated previously.

There's procreational sex.

And then there's multifarious recreational sex.

One can choose to do indulge in either, both or none.

LGBGTQ etc is just socially constructed mumbo jumbo.

Masturbation or variations upon an intercourse theme....Same drive, same end result....Roll over and go to sleep.....Till the next time.

Your body will tell you when and you will choose how.

Because there isn't.

What depth of skin tone defines black?

And most reasonably fit people can run.

But who can eat the most pies?

The law of political correctness, says that it is unfair to call superior pies eaters, fat bastards.

Just saying.

Nice stats.

Everyone discriminates Bonesy.

I keep telling you.

You discriminate against Joe Biden for starters, as well as 101 other things probably.

Data in, data assessment, reach a conclusion....It's an unavoidable process.

Racism has a tendency to be just a media inspired super-discrimination relative to a perceivable difference in skin tone....Not specifically about race at all.

Human Race......What other race is there?

Martian Race.....Little Green Bastards.