zedvictor4

Your asking a question.

And not instigating an argument.

And from the U.S's point of view the answer to the question is yes, but not for the reasons given.

Justification is variable.

Though one would not refer to it as a war, but as invasion.

It's interesting how you old Europeans cherry pick history to suit.

Is it?.....No it isn't.....Yes it is.

Make your mind up.

Things happen and things are made to happen by dimwits, for sure.

And might or might not represents probability, or likelihood or..........

And I refer to it as Alternative Intelligence....Because intelligence either is or isn't.

And so what is the likelihood of the likelihood of an organic blob being more universally important than it's alternative offspring?

They dressed me up, splashed water on my head and never set foot in a church again until someone died or got married.

Cake at Christmas and chocolate at Easter

Such is a British tradition.

And such was my conditioning, and hence was my interest.

And the Bible was the black book on the shelf all covered in dust.

A.I. will be relevant to itself, relative to any universal purpose that my prevail....Perhaps.

I will be dead by 2060 so what will I care if we colonise Mars or not.

Thinking is thinking, a process by which we are able to evolve matter....Slow as it may seem.

Actions, create consequences, demand responses....A simultaneous process of material evolution and dimwit thinking.

Such is humanity and what might or might not be a purposeful existence.

Hopefully the U.S. is a Democratic Republic.

And hopefully all Americans are Democratic Republicans.

You're conflating things a tad.

Previously in another thread, you were extolling the virtues of adulthood and all your boys toys.

Aren't you really, just a grumpy old git?

We tend to refer to water with added CO2, as sparkling water.

If you don't know then you you don't know.

But I'm certain that you do know.

So I'm content with that certainty.

Or your honesty.

Water with a hint of something....Like tea or carbon-dioxide.....But not coffee.

Nicely stated.

But who or what else gives a fuck though?

Hopefully Alternative Intelligence will have made a move by 2232.

Do you think we will still be whizzing around the Earth in a tin can?....Or will we have made it to Mars by then?

Or maybe a GOD will have returned to sort things and nailed another of it's kids to a cross.

The contradiction of anti-racist racism.

Protesting against discrimination by discriminating as it were....Only perpetuates resentment.

Things will sort themselves out slowly......As they do.

She could always go and live in Somalia if she thinks that America is such a backwards thinking shithole.....Only joking Gwen.

Hopefully, democratic Americans.

One could ask the same question of Republicans 

And hopefully they would represent democratic Americans too.

You could always move to North Korea if your not happy with democracy.

Despite the grammatical irregularities.

There are elements of truth contained therein.

"Moddle meddling" for sure....Including the Jewish problem.

Nonetheless your views are tinged with a sort of left of right extremism.

Or perhaps right of left.

 And troops just go where they are sent...It's the job spec.

What about democratic socialism?

Just joking.

Seriously though.

There are two socio-political systems.

1. Hierarchical democracy.

2. Hierarchical dictatorship.

How these two systems variously  sub-divide, is largely irrelevant.

True socialism is the impossible utopia of philosophical dreamers.

All people are equal, but some people are more equal than others....As it were.

Smart is as smart does.

Another cesspool of misinformation,

No one is white and no one is half white and no one is black....Or half black...That would be mid-grey perhaps.....As would be half white I suppose.

All pagan deities are derivatives of ignorance.

And all non-pagan deities are derivative of pagan deities.

Generally.

Fantastical solutions in the absence of understanding.

Exactly

Some people just love being offended.

That's a completely different answer. 

As per other discussion re statues.

A flag is generally a patterned piece of rectangular fabric.

It only means something if you want it to mean something.

BLM wave flags....Is that racist?....Or currently socially acceptable.

I expect that the Confederate flag was once socially acceptable.

An inanimate heap of bronze doesn't say either good or bad.

Good or bad, is a living thing.

And the slavery thing, is relative to the history of human social evolution.

As are statues I suppose.

Though, blaming me because of my skin  tone or a statue, for something that occurred four or five hundred years ago is somewhat taking the piss....Pardon the expression.

For some, it still all really still boils down to the colour thing. Discrimination based upon a perceivable difference.

And some darker skinned people are just as intolerant as some lighter skinned people are.

Fortunately most people are forward thinking.

I say, get rid of all statues....Nothing for people to worry about then.

Though some people will always be keen to find something to worry about.

I've said this before.

Everyone discriminates, relative to perceivable differences....It's how we function.

And some people are conditioned to be more discriminatory than others.

Though it has to be said, that Donald never discriminated against Eastern European Women.

But he probably had a preference for the light to orange range of the colour spectrum.

Statues hey.....Just another one of those ridiculous things that some humans feel the need to do.

Just ignore them.

Struck me as being a tad contradictory.

It is either reliable or it is not.

If it is not reliable, then it is not "a decent place to go".

Doc Franklin summed it up much better.

And any general compilation of information for reference use, is obviously going to be a secondary source. It's the nature of the beast, as it were.

Wiki is an excellent quick reference source.

And it amuses me that people knock it. 

A tad pretentiously, me thinks.

@Ratman

The U.K. symbol for pound weight is lb with a dash through it. From the Roman, libre pondo....Though the dash is usually omitted. The American use of the hash symbol to represent pound weight was derived from the original crossed lb symbol.

The symbol for pounds sterling is £.

And the hash symbol or number sign as used in social media, has been referred to as hashtag since about 2007.

@RatMan

How you can read racism into that post, I don't know.

Luckily shadow_72 has a bit more up top than you do, and understood my comments in the way that they were intended.

It's interesting that clever Indians still regard "the west" as a means of improvement.

I can't speak for U.S. society..... But here in the U.K. people of the Indian sub-continent are just a part of the furniture, as it were. Look at the current  Conservative government for example....Rishi, Priti, Sajid and Alok to name but a few.

Hope all goes well in the U.S.

Cops were kids once.

Exactly my point.

Whether or not a GOD principle is actually relevant, is unknown, and therefore speculative.

All that we can be reasonably certain of, are the abilities of human function and derived facts thereof.

So, no human no fact.

There might be other stuff...But we can only speculate, because we can.

The word death is non-specific.

It can describe the whole process, of decline to non-existence.

So, alive or dead.

And though I struggle to find a specific word, the moment of cross over, might be referred to as passing. 

I do not read too much into things, whereas some people seem to find it necessary to do so.

How about unpacking this statement.

Well......You said it was crap.

And I take part because it is interesting to do so.

If you care to look at post#2, you will see that I gave a full answer to the question.

Was your post#5 serious or not. If so, can you substantiate the claim made therein....

"The spirit doesn't die it goes on forever".

I think that it is fair to refer to such statements as supposition.

The legal drinking age you mean.

Not that a legal drinking age is going to stop kids from drinking.

Over here, legality only really applies to the selling of alcohol.

The consumption of alcoholic drinks, is pretty much recognised as unpoliceable....As is sex between minors.

Why can't a gay person marry a women?

Gay is as gay does.

Methods of achieving sexual satisfaction are numerous and varied....Who one might or might not be married to is proven to be irrelevant.

Interestingly you're still using old social stereotyping....And still having to justify how people behave sexually.

It strikes me that people are not quite as liberated as they think they are.

It's separated by gender, by tradition.

Supposition Poly.

Did you only see one word in my previous post?

Avoiding the answer, as it were.

An old song is an old song.

So are we therefore going to judge every recorded narrative?

And what's the point of judging dead people?....Other than to achieve smug satisfaction.

And did you only read one line of my previous post?

No brain no fact.

Definition is also the result of internal process.

So no brain, no definition, and no fact.

Something can only be known to be a fact or defined, if it can be known to be a fact and defined.

Therefore, without the ability to know, something cannot be known to be, or be defined ...So no fact and no definition.

Hmmm.

Is this about a word and it's possible applications.

Or just a roundabout way of making a point, relative to a specific creation hypothesis.

Nonetheless.

Dead is the antonym to living or alive.

Whereas death can variously, precede an event, be subsequent to an event, be an event or be the embodiment of an event.

 

Judging history by todays standards is arrogant.

And overlooks what was/is the inevitability of human evolution and  human social evolution, relative to the acquisition of knowledge and associated capability.

The modern arguments are just the manifestation of ongoing mutual racism, relative to perceivable differences.

Socially acceptable slavery is what kept/keeps society ticking.

What was once acceptable, may not be now.

But social hierarchy always dictates a degree of subservience. 

Depends upon who chooses to interpret the verdict.

Courts make decisions, but cannot necessarily change peoples minds.

Legally, one would assume that he is no longer deemed to be  guilty....Which is exoneration.

Unless something can be known , then what?

Presumably it still would be....But that wouldn't be a fact unless it could be known.

Facts are internal knowledge, not external events that cannot be known.

Nope...This means things are.....The viewer/s create the facts.

So.... No viewer....Things still are....But no one to create facts.

Let me spell it out....A fact, is a human data construct, relative to something......A fact isn't the something.

You just described, exactly what I stated.

Though you failed to the acknowledge the similar "explosion of hatred" towards Islam.

Well.... Issues surrounding the novel in question, were media driven by both camps, in respect of the social climate. 

As I stated somewhere....Nutcases can incite the gullible.

Nutcases, as in people who have tendency to over think, zealously.

Most people would happily not over bother themselves, if left to make up their own minds.

To think that I hold bigotries is to not know me.

Let's have a beer (alcoholic or non-alcoholic) and talk football.

Or fruit juice...Muslims are good at fruit juice.

I do not  have any answers to the big question, and I'm also confident that you don't.......Now that's not bigoted....Just realistic.

To assume that one does have unquestionable answers, could be regarded as being a tad arrogant.

Do you think that your answers are unquestionable?

I share this sort of data, usually, in the mornings between 7 and 9 am.  After which I don't consider it at all.

These quotes are logical sequences.

Yes.

Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps......This perfectly sums up, the ongoing contention.