zedvictor4

Yep...Always my line.

Everyone discriminates internally.

Learning to not discriminate externally is the best we can do.

That is to say, respond to everyone in the same way, even though we perceive them differently.

Gap-sentence link maybe.

Can you explain the link between WW2 and Chimpophilia.

Art is a business, for those that promote themselves as professional artists,  and those that promote professional artists.

Marketing is key....Selling the useless to the gullible.

Nonetheless a shrewd investor can make a lot of dosh by doing so....So not so useless for some.

And Excuse the pun, but reading up on  Duchamp and his  fountain I came to the conclusion that Duchamp was actually taking the piss out of the Art Establishment.

A GOD principle might  be perfect if can be achieved.

But all GOD ideas remain hypothetical.

So hypothetically perfect Doc.

Though unlikely to be the picture book GOD as seen in illustrated Christian bibles.

I certainly agree with the substitute children and expiring egg thing.

CRT is a critical racists theory.

Birth...Life...Death.

I think that the life bit is going to get a whole lot tougher, for a whole lot of people.

Especially if we keep producing them quicker than we get rid of them.

Evolution/material evolution and associated aspiration is the culprit, not capitalism per se.

Though capitalism might influence the rate of material evolution....But that's debateable.

It's basically paying people for what was considered a norm at the time.

And sets a precedent for judging all past events by current standards.

In a few years time people will be wanting reparations for the environmental damage caused by the industrial revolution.

And LGBTQ's will have a field day.

Perhaps I could even get some reparations for the enslavement of Britons during the the Roman  or Viking conquests.

No chance, comparative skin colour not provocative enough.

The reality is that all past events shaped all present events.

So if the current situation is so wrong and unbearable, perhaps all  Afro-Caribbean's should return to Africa.

But I guess that they actually quite like it there.

Nope, it really is just about trendy present day racial discrimination for money.

True.

To explain the existence of LGBTQ one needs to study sociology at university.

Leaving it to Miss in the biology lesson is a waste of valuable school time.

And the teaching of morals is a subliminal thing that variously pervades, various societies and various sub-groups.

And I knew all about sex and contraception, long before Miss embarrassed herself in biology.....Relevant data transfer started way before that.

And my Dad bless him, just smiled knowingly.

@RatMan

And Debateart doesn't mean  having to agree with everything that the RatMan says......That would be Dictateart.

In order to elicit a response, one sometimes needs to provoke.

And if every response was trolling, everyone would be a troll.

And you are easily provoked and easily responded to.

Which is the nature of you and I.

A positive position defined by interpretation can also be a negative position defined by interpretation, and vice versa.

It all depends upon the individual making the distinction.

Well. 

Right and wrong in this context is a construct relative to a biased point of view.

And therefore a biased viewpoint promoted in schools  by a biased  social sub-group, should itself be subject to similar moral scrutiny.

Or preferably, best not promoted in schools at all.

Sperm, egg reproduction fine.

Recreational sex.....Will they be introducing practical hands on demonstrations of all the available options?

No...Just some mildly embarrassed teacher waffling on about how it's ok to have your dick cut off.....Sound advice.

Though as I keep saying....Most kids will already know this stuff, and will  already have seen the video's.

@RatMan.

Are you with the Debateart thought Police.

And you're supposed to be ignoring me.

In order for the block to work, you need to ignore.

Otherwise, you defeat your objective.

Inherent ability.......Dictates power, which in turn dictates social hierarchy, or vice versa....The two go hand in glove.

And his inherited $300,000 didn't get  squandered on fast cars and women did it....He clearly possessed the ability to know what to do with it.

Though you're quite right, anyone can inherit inability or weakness....But in terms of business success and associated power and status, Jeff Bezos clearly didn't.

Nonetheless, in respect of the O.P......He didn't get where he is today by sitting on his arse all day watching TV.

@RatMan

The snowball effect is nearly irrefutable.

So it's refutable then?

And your inability to recognise satire, results in slurs such as bigotry.....Which is no more than we expect from RatMan.

Inheritance.

Yep inheritance, good point....Explains a lot if you care to think about it rationally and unemotionally.

And discrimination based upon perceivable differences doesn't snowball, it is constant.

If we were all displayed a darker skin tone we would still discriminate, as did continental Africans long before lighter skinned Europeans came along. Though interestingly the Spanish display a wide variation of skin tone.

Nope..... "Black" Jamaica has jumped aboard the current gravy train of  racially motivated P.C.  

Poor Black Man, Nasty White Man...Give us your money, and lots of it.

Will that change to the past?.....No, it's just designed to line the pockets of  corrupt and discriminatory Jamaicans.

That's the thing...We all actually live for now, it's referred to as survival....Memory and the past is just a convenient and useful survival tool.

If only one could be bothered to read.

Soundbites is what most people want.

Hopefully that would suggest that the U.S. vaccination program and other preventative measures are working.

Here in the U.K. Though covid infections are still prevalent, serious problems and deaths have now been significantly reduced, thanks to the rapid vaccination roll out and adherence to social distancing advice.

Vaccination comes with a minimal risk, as does going to the supermarket, but the benefits far outweigh the risks.

And conspiracy theories abound.....And  conspiracy theorists, skim read a bit of social media propaganda and then promote themselves as scientific experts.

And the fact remains that thanks to scientific study and the development of medical interventions, we all live a whole lot longer than we would have done without it.

Yep...Should have stayed at home.

I wouldn't be astonished at all.

If a milkable system is provided, then people will milk it......It's what is known as a liberal society.

It's one of the reasons why the U.K. has to import labour.

Notwithstanding that everything that is supposedly objective, is fundamentally subjective.

In this case what you are proposing is the teaching of a biased subjective opinion (State indoctrination)....Which is nothing new I suppose, as we've been promoting religion in schools for centuries.

It would be more objective to give kids both sides of the argument and allow them to make up their own minds about recreational sex.

Or as I stated previously....Leave it to social media.

Should have stayed at home.

"The contrast is significant"..... If you want it to be....And so you will interpret accordingly.

I think that you would only get banned for expressing your thoughts.

Not thought crime per se.....But edging in that direction.

Freedom of speech/expression has long since been out the window.....Depending upon one's skin tone of course.

Light skinned racist bad...Boooooooo.

Dark skinned racist good...Hoorah.

Don't they all.

And who came up with that arbitrary amount.

And whose pockets will it end up in.

And I suggest.... If history is that intolerable, than relocate back to Africa....Perhaps you will find some solace there....I doubt it though, you will probably be grinding the racist axe for evermore you handful of racist hypocrites.

I think it's fair to say that sensible people of all origins and all skin colour variations, moved on a long time ago...

And most Jamaicans are probably happy with Jamaica.....But wouldn't say no to a free hand out....Though I doubt if any of the 7 billion would end up in their pockets.

Have you never had any vaccination?

In other words, recreational sex education.

Which I'm pretty certain, most kids learn about from social media.

Why waste time with it in schools.

What you are wanting, is for schools to promote a biased opinion.

Very true.

Foul play has always been a part of the game.

And Italy dominated.

And as one would expect, England lost the penalty kicking contest.....It's become something of a tradition.

Not to worry....World Cup soon.

Discriminate:   Recognize a distinction, differentiate.....Oxford dictionaries.

Data in, data assessment, difference perceived, output variable. It happens in less than the blink of an eye, and you will discriminate, it's human nature and absolutely unavoidable.

How one consciously manages ones data processing and output is is what you are referring to....How we might or might not choose to  behave prejudicially  towards others who we have perceived to be different.

And even though we may carefully manage our responses,  formative data conditioning will inevitably dictate some level of prejudicial thought.

Perceived difference does not necessarily mean visual appearance, we will discriminate in response to all aspects of data input....If a Debateart member states an opinion that is contrary to ones acquired values, one will discriminate and respond accordingly.....Recognize a difference in an individuals  values.

And social law is a secondary collective construct....Currently there is no such thing as thought crime....Though we are undoubtedly edging in that direction. 

And if you want to discriminate on the basis of  how one chooses to define "naturally systemic".......Then how about natural systems.

There's a whole bigger evolutionary and sociological picture, that your simplistic argument  does not take into account.

Very briefly:

Inherent ability dictates social hierarchy and the the tool we have devised to define success within the hierarchical system is called money.

So the higher up the pecking order one is, the more money one will have.

The availability and value  of commodities and their derivatives, is an inevitable outcome of the system.

This is the reason why True Socialism remains a philosophical pipe dream.

I try to be a realist.

But ultimately everything in the Universe is real.

In human terms it all boils down to a conceptual choice.

Perhaps some choices are more rational than others.

But who or what is to judge?

Probably.

But they are not necessarily a definitive indicator of how one will develop.

Discriminating against criminals would also be a crime then.

How would a non-discriminating system work?

Jeff Bezos is the reason why people work for him.

I've never been there so I wouldn't know.

If you mean do I hate all Iranians....Then  no.....I don't hate any Iranians

I just dislike backwards thinking.....Particularly stupid religious ideology and the forced conditioning thereof.

As I keep telling y'all.

Everyone discriminates.

It's human nature.

So it's going to be nationally systemic, and also systemic in all racial sub-groups.

Despite what we are led to believe, racial/colour discrimination isn't an exclusively  White European condition.

"Hard work" never makes a fortune.

Jeff Bezos is a successful entrepreneur.

He has the same amount of time available, as we all do.

Iran is a Nation of people controlled by backwards thinking  bullies.

Backwards thinking bullies who themselves were controlled by backwards thinking bullies.

If you teach your kids nonsense, they will grow up believing in nonsense.

Such is culture.

Yet another penalty kicking contest Doc.

No religion is better.

@RatMan

At the end of the proverbial day, is there much difference between a shit beating neo-nazi and a shit beating hardline anarchist.

All just shit beaters really.

All brawn and no brains, as it were.

It's far too late anyway Doc.

Did you just marry someone Doc?

I always find this an interesting  topic.

Because procreation is the necessity and recreational sex is the derivative thereof.

If you have a penis, testicles and produce sperm, then you are a fully reproductive male.

So not participating in normal reproductive sex is a choice, as is where you might stick your equipment for fun.

 

What you choose to do with your equipment for pleasure, should be of no concern.....(And I stress, is of no concern to me)

But what also strikes me is...... What is nowadays loudly promoted as the social norm in liberal societies, still isn't quite the social norm. There is still an underlying element of taboo and consequential justification needed in such discussions.

Why?....Because procreation is the inherent drive and recreational sex is the acquired derivative thereof... Whether that be a physiological acquisition or a sociological acquisition.

Nonetheless......There's already 7.9 billion people clogging up this planet...So make love...Not babies.

Terror is....For sure.

Well....Future value is a financial term, relative to the value of an investment.

However, in this context, it is the assertion that future generations of life have value.

At the end of the day it's all about people, and the normal but seemingly bizarre stuff that they get up to.

A whole lot of nodding and wailing at some imaginary guy in the sky.

A distraction for the masses I suppose....Whilst the innovators get on with innovating.

Here's a new bomb you dumbasses, go and play with each other and have some fun.....LOL 

Such is the evolution of intelligence, hey Bro.

All good fun.

Which definition of "sus" are you applying to Rick Astley.

Big business, so it ain't going to happen.

Notwithstanding that there is estimated to be over 400 million guns in circulation anyway. So already out of control.

As we saw at the end of the Trump debacle, insurrection is easily motivated....It will only take one Charismatic nutter to motivate the gullible and their guns.

And you certainly can't rely on  Law Enforcement Officers to be impartial.

Reliance on the goodwill of the people, is a knife edge thing.