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@drlebronski
I think that is what Ragnar probably wishes they had said.
But it wasn't actually what they said....Far from it.
As Ragnar well knows.
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@drlebronski
An assumed GOD, fucked a virgin without her consent and got her pregnant....Rape in human terms.
Would that constitute perfectionism?
And would Mary's sin?
And would the bastard Jesus?
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@Barney
Please do not tell me that you're denying responsibility for the overt contradictions of #2.
Is the Pope a reliable Catholic.
No he is not.
He is however a decent Catholic to go to for preliminary research into Catholicism, to then use as a reliable preliminary source of Catholicism, which he draws form a reliable source.
LOL. If the decent preliminary source isn't reliable, then the reliable source is also unlikely to be reliable.
That you cannot understand that yes and no to the same question is contradictory, is troubling.
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@drlebronski
Nonetheless.
A hotdog is still a hotdog and not a sausage sandwich.
It's all about an established idea and the perception and recognition thereof.
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@Intelligence_06
I have just instigated a philosophical forum on the subject of perfection.
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@Timid8967
Which is wrong?
Multiple spouses.
or multiple sex partners.
One is concept based.
One is reality based.
Right and wrong are also concept based.
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@Intelligence_06
@drlebronski
Yes. Nothing is perfect.
Actually, that would be a good question to put forward..
Is anything perfect?
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@drlebronski
I think that James Buchanan was the only bachelor.
Lincoln was definitely married.
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@RatMan
What is a toxic person?
And convincing people that are already convinced/conditioned, is extremely difficult.
Though changing peoples minds isn't the purpose of debate.
Debating is a competition of intellects.
The forum is the place to promote ideas.
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@drlebronski
Q. What is the difference between sliced bread and unsliced bread?
A. The same as the difference between a sliced bread roll and an unsliced bread roll.
The shape of the bread is as relevant or irrelevant as you care to consider.
Though I would suggest, that the conceptual difference between a hotdog and a sausage sandwich is perceivably obvious. But not worth getting hung up about.
Though if the bread roll wasn't sliced where would you put the sausage?
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@drlebronski
Your asking a question.
And not instigating an argument.
And from the U.S's point of view the answer to the question is yes, but not for the reasons given.
Justification is variable.
Though one would not refer to it as a war, but as invasion.
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@TheUnderdog
It's interesting how you old Europeans cherry pick history to suit.
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@Barney
Is wikipedia a reliable source?
No it is not.
It is however a decent place to go.
Is it?.....No it isn't.....Yes it is.
Make your mind up.
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@ebuc
Things happen and things are made to happen by dimwits, for sure.
And might or might not represents probability, or likelihood or..........
And I refer to it as Alternative Intelligence....Because intelligence either is or isn't.
And so what is the likelihood of the likelihood of an organic blob being more universally important than it's alternative offspring?
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@Timid8967
They dressed me up, splashed water on my head and never set foot in a church again until someone died or got married.
Cake at Christmas and chocolate at Easter
Such is a British tradition.
And such was my conditioning, and hence was my interest.
And the Bible was the black book on the shelf all covered in dust.
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@ebuc
A.I. will be relevant to itself, relative to any universal purpose that my prevail....Perhaps.
I will be dead by 2060 so what will I care if we colonise Mars or not.
Thinking is thinking, a process by which we are able to evolve matter....Slow as it may seem.
Actions, create consequences, demand responses....A simultaneous process of material evolution and dimwit thinking.
Such is humanity and what might or might not be a purposeful existence.
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@sadolite
Hopefully the U.S. is a Democratic Republic.
And hopefully all Americans are Democratic Republicans.
You're conflating things a tad.
Previously in another thread, you were extolling the virtues of adulthood and all your boys toys.
Aren't you really, just a grumpy old git?
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@Intelligence_06
We tend to refer to water with added CO2, as sparkling water.
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@Athias
If you don't know then you you don't know.
But I'm certain that you do know.
So I'm content with that certainty.
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@Intelligence_06
Water with a hint of something....Like tea or carbon-dioxide.....But not coffee.
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@ebuc
Nicely stated.
But who or what else gives a fuck though?
Hopefully Alternative Intelligence will have made a move by 2232.
Do you think we will still be whizzing around the Earth in a tin can?....Or will we have made it to Mars by then?
Or maybe a GOD will have returned to sort things and nailed another of it's kids to a cross.
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@oromagi
The contradiction of anti-racist racism.
Protesting against discrimination by discriminating as it were....Only perpetuates resentment.
Things will sort themselves out slowly......As they do.
She could always go and live in Somalia if she thinks that America is such a backwards thinking shithole.....Only joking Gwen.
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@sadolite
Hopefully, democratic Americans.
One could ask the same question of Republicans
And hopefully they would represent democratic Americans too.
You could always move to North Korea if your not happy with democracy.
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@Wylted
Despite the grammatical irregularities.
There are elements of truth contained therein.
"Moddle meddling" for sure....Including the Jewish problem.
Nonetheless your views are tinged with a sort of left of right extremism.
Or perhaps right of left.
And troops just go where they are sent...It's the job spec.
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@drlebronski
What about democratic socialism?
Just joking.
Seriously though.
There are two socio-political systems.
1. Hierarchical democracy.
2. Hierarchical dictatorship.
How these two systems variously sub-divide, is largely irrelevant.
True socialism is the impossible utopia of philosophical dreamers.
All people are equal, but some people are more equal than others....As it were.
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@Greyparrot
Obama was half white.
Another cesspool of misinformation,
No one is white and no one is half white and no one is black....Or half black...That would be mid-grey perhaps.....As would be half white I suppose.
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@Athias
All pagan deities are derivatives of ignorance.
And all non-pagan deities are derivative of pagan deities.
Generally.
Fantastical solutions in the absence of understanding.
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@ILikePie5
Exactly
Some people just love being offended.
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@Barney
That's a completely different answer.
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@drlebronski
As per other discussion re statues.
A flag is generally a patterned piece of rectangular fabric.
It only means something if you want it to mean something.
BLM wave flags....Is that racist?....Or currently socially acceptable.
I expect that the Confederate flag was once socially acceptable.
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@drlebronski
An inanimate heap of bronze doesn't say either good or bad.
Good or bad, is a living thing.
And the slavery thing, is relative to the history of human social evolution.
As are statues I suppose.
Though, blaming me because of my skin tone or a statue, for something that occurred four or five hundred years ago is somewhat taking the piss....Pardon the expression.
For some, it still all really still boils down to the colour thing. Discrimination based upon a perceivable difference.
And some darker skinned people are just as intolerant as some lighter skinned people are.
Fortunately most people are forward thinking.
I say, get rid of all statues....Nothing for people to worry about then.
Though some people will always be keen to find something to worry about.
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@clokflokleberrymojimbo
I've said this before.
Everyone discriminates, relative to perceivable differences....It's how we function.
And some people are conditioned to be more discriminatory than others.
Though it has to be said, that Donald never discriminated against Eastern European Women.
But he probably had a preference for the light to orange range of the colour spectrum.
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@drlebronski
Statues hey.....Just another one of those ridiculous things that some humans feel the need to do.
Just ignore them.
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@Barney
@Intelligence_06
No, it is not.It is however a decent place to go.
Struck me as being a tad contradictory.
It is either reliable or it is not.
If it is not reliable, then it is not "a decent place to go".
Doc Franklin summed it up much better.
And any general compilation of information for reference use, is obviously going to be a secondary source. It's the nature of the beast, as it were.
Wiki is an excellent quick reference source.
And it amuses me that people knock it.
A tad pretentiously, me thinks.
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@Ratman
The U.K. symbol for pound weight is lb with a dash through it. From the Roman, libre pondo....Though the dash is usually omitted. The American use of the hash symbol to represent pound weight was derived from the original crossed lb symbol.
The symbol for pounds sterling is £.
And the hash symbol or number sign as used in social media, has been referred to as hashtag since about 2007.
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@RatMan
How you can read racism into that post, I don't know.
Luckily shadow_72 has a bit more up top than you do, and understood my comments in the way that they were intended.
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@shadow_712
It's interesting that clever Indians still regard "the west" as a means of improvement.
I can't speak for U.S. society..... But here in the U.K. people of the Indian sub-continent are just a part of the furniture, as it were. Look at the current Conservative government for example....Rishi, Priti, Sajid and Alok to name but a few.
Hope all goes well in the U.S.
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@PGA2.0
How do you know this?
Exactly my point.
Whether or not a GOD principle is actually relevant, is unknown, and therefore speculative.
All that we can be reasonably certain of, are the abilities of human function and derived facts thereof.
So, no human no fact.
There might be other stuff...But we can only speculate, because we can.
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The word death is non-specific.
It can describe the whole process, of decline to non-existence.
So, alive or dead.
And though I struggle to find a specific word, the moment of cross over, might be referred to as passing.
I do not read too much into things, whereas some people seem to find it necessary to do so.
Not directed specifically to creation. Possibly more to Jesus.
How about unpacking this statement.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Well......You said it was crap.
And I take part because it is interesting to do so.
If you care to look at post#2, you will see that I gave a full answer to the question.
Was your post#5 serious or not. If so, can you substantiate the claim made therein....
"The spirit doesn't die it goes on forever".
I think that it is fair to refer to such statements as supposition.
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@Intelligence_06
The legal drinking age you mean.
Not that a legal drinking age is going to stop kids from drinking.
Over here, legality only really applies to the selling of alcohol.
The consumption of alcoholic drinks, is pretty much recognised as unpoliceable....As is sex between minors.
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@drlebronski
Why can't a gay person marry a women?
Gay is as gay does.
Methods of achieving sexual satisfaction are numerous and varied....Who one might or might not be married to is proven to be irrelevant.
Interestingly you're still using old social stereotyping....And still having to justify how people behave sexually.
It strikes me that people are not quite as liberated as they think they are.
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@Intelligence_06
It's separated by gender, by tradition.
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@Tradesecret
Did you only see one word in my previous post?
Avoiding the answer, as it were.
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@SkepticalOne
An old song is an old song.
So are we therefore going to judge every recorded narrative?
And what's the point of judging dead people?....Other than to achieve smug satisfaction.
And did you only read one line of my previous post?
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