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Is that fear or just irresponsibility?

And where is your evidence that shows that all irresponsible parents are "deadbeats."

You have an over stylized view of the world, probably based upon hearsay.

You really do need to go on the watch list.

What are we attempting to prove?

As I said the difference between us is only semantics.

For instance:

"Firm evidence that something is probably true."

One has acquired data to support a theory...But unless said data can be proven to be unequivocal...Then the theory remains speculative.

Evidence is not fact and probability is never unequivocal.

And "firm" is an unnecessary prerequisite

And "suggesting probability" will always be speculative.....And similarly, confidence is never certainty.

And if evidence is able to confirm a claim, then the collective data becomes factual and no longer subject to probability.

All  mothers are single.

What you are referring to is the old established socioeconomic concepts of right and proper.

You old right winger you.

Build some internment camps and get some good ole, well armed,  incestuous, backwoods militia boys to keep the depraved  bastards in and sterilize them....LOL.

And give the boys a banjo.

And where is your evidence that "horny players" fear parenthood.

TheUnderog for President, 

A GOD help us.

Well.

Fravor's account sound like his own reflection....Though, data acquired  through tired and aging eyes, and then processed irrationally.

Most accounts of UFO's follow a similar pattern of misidentification and misinterpretation.

As for simulations and tears therein.....From whence is said simulation projected?.....And what is the projector?...And what projects the projector etc?

Thoughts.

Ten commandments and lots of guns.

I think that you need to go on the watch list.

Well, the major cause of vaccine deaths (clotting) has been identified.

And given the rapid rollout of vaccine that covid necessitated, the science was always going to be ongoing rather than pre-established.

So now, at risk people can be identified....And  early symptoms can also be identified and addressed quickly.

And G.P's (Doctors) as we refer to them over here, tend to have a general knowledge of medicine, and are unlikely to be experts in virology and vaccinology.

And conspiracy theorists require no feeding.

And certainly over here in the "West", there's a whole lot of people that expect to be nannied.

And for sure people die...It's the inevitability of life...If you make the wrong decision today, any day, it's curtains.

Is vaccination the right or wrong decision.....Statistically speaking probably the wiser decision for someone of my age.

Whereas Kids, can afford to be blase.

As MisterChris rightly states.

Material events can occur, so there is time.

Time is an intangible reality, so as such does not tangibly exist.

We measure the duration of events....Rather than time itself.

Would one use a rule to measure time?

As a clock with nothing else to be regarded, will only measure the duration of it's own existence. 

If I remember correctly, I was Fredsnephew on DDO and Sonofcharl on DebateIsland.

What does any civilian actually need an assault rifle for?

Other than for big kids to dress up and  play war in the woods with.

Sure...And DebateIsland.

Gave upon DDO...Too many glitches in the system...And Mr Ethang seems to have had a breakdown.

Me.

You do seem to have been personally attacking "Kammie" a lot lately.

The last ditch throws of post election anxiety.

As I said ...Semantics.

Based upon how I interpret the definition of speculation, dark matter and big booms are therefore speculative. 

And the second line of  #31 is a semantical and grammatic nightmare...and also rife with indecision.

I'm certain that probably isn't synonymous with definitely.

And something cannot be probably definitely....Something is either probable or definite.

Similarly, something that is only probable, might have supportive evidence, but not conclusive evidence.

And something that is likely to have happened, therefore didn't necessarily happen.

Well the rest of my post would make sense if understood the data.....You have the font of all knowledge at your finger tips, so read and understand.

And statisticians are employed to provide statistical data to back up arguments.....Consequently there are two sets of statistics for any argument , and you believe which ever set suits.

And background checks and banning assault weapons won't necessarily reduce the homicide rate......Other weapons are available,

Doesn't alter the fact that all guns are inherently dangerous....That was the whole point of guns.

For sure.

I've continually defended the fact, that the biblical authors never attributed their central character with a specific sexuality.

And Jesus ran around with all manner of guys.

And the power of the ring rendered Frodo impotent......Well that's my interpretation

And Samwise eventually got married and fathered children, and was probably just bi-curious during his epic bachelor days....Well that's my interpretation.

Well.

He's not necessarily a radical thinker.

As I stated previously, he is typically conditioned with mid to late 20th century values.

But is wise enough and also clever and eloquent enough, to realise the need to compromise and and conform with modern 21st century social politics and ideology.

And the knowledge with which he backs up his subtle contentions is always very difficult for questioners to oppose.

The Guy is undoubtedly very good at what he does...And such ability often fosters resentment.

Nonetheless.......It was an ill thought out thread that would always come back to bite you on the butt.

The Christian flock and all that......Baaaaaaa.

It also struck me, that he has an inoffensive voice.

Hey!

All politics is inherently corrupt.

Though some politics is more corrupt than others.

Let's go full on LGBTQQQQQ

No votes for heterosexuals or people displaying a skin tone.

Oooops , that's everyone.

What we need is a global dictator  Big Bro.

Someone like GOD.

Hey!

I'm full on P.C. gender neutral.

This is all so offensive.

And stuff your face with all the pies

And be confident and happy.

And third wave fourth wave

Not waving but drowning

Who said that?

Stevie Smith

Stevie?

How's that for foresight.

I agree.

Other than the last line.

And that's just semantics.

The forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.    Oxford Dictionaries.

Thanks Doc.

He's the central character/hero  of the Lord of the rings tales.

The same as Jesus is to the N.T. tales.

In both stories, the salvation of mankind is the focus of the plot.

The sexuality of the hero, was never the authors predilection.

Whosoever might find either tale homoerotic, has a vivid imagination.

Yep....I agree.

Ultimately, nuclear energy is currently, something beyond our abilities to control.

Once we create it, we can then only contain it.

And as Chernobyl demonstrates, when things go horribly wrong, containment becomes a nightmare.

Lust for electrical energy overrides common sense.

And seemingly lust for electrical energy also overrides the usually overbearing considerations of cost.

A doomsday merchant would perhaps say that there is  something ominously predictive about all this.

More wind power for sure.

And the Sun bombards us with all the nuclear fired energy, we will ever need.

For sure.

Get a statistician to create a sheet of statistics.

A statistician could make the holocaust appear reasonable.

And they who pay the statistician, gets the favourable statistics.

Nonetheless owning a gun is reliant upon an individuals sensibilities....And fortunately most people are usually sensible.....Though the weapons effect, is shown to  stimulate an altered and  heightened response, liable to evoke irrational behaviour.

Of course and as ever, the bottom line is....If you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger the outcome is likely to be messy.

Like the little kid in the car with his Mom.

Yep...That's fair enough.

Too young

Too poor

And too honest.

Things happen and may seem to be miraculous .

For example; I see no reason why a child with a developmental anomaly couldn't naturally correct itself.

You would only believe this to be miraculous, if that is what you wanted to believe. 

Furthermore, the power of positivity shouldn't be underestimated, and certainly strong religious faith can generate a positive state of mind.

Nonetheless, none of this actually  proves the existence of a supernatural godhead, but just reaffirms an already established belief.

GOD can be what ever you want it to be, and certainly doesn't have to be the same interpretation as you would find in popularly inherited  Arabian theism.

Science and knowledge have exceeded such archaic hypotheses.

For me: GOD is simply the principle, that might give purpose to the universe and the evolution of matter therein.....A process that perhaps we are an integral part of.

As such, I postulate that GOD creates us and we recreate GOD....Traditional worship was probably inevitable, but nonetheless, an unnecessary development.

The above arguments are all largely irrelevant.

Other than as something to argue about.

Guns are here, and were designed by humans, for humans, for a human  purpose, and guns are efficient when activated.

No one actually needs to own an assault rifle

Though no one actually needs to own a car.

Cars can be pretty dangerous when activated.

And the sensory appreciation of weapons, borders on the erotic.

It would not resist or fight us.

But it already mesmerises us.

And interestingly it mesmerises all, equally.

Resistance is seemingly futile.

And to doubt is human

And were we ever doubted?

Though humanity has taken hundreds of thousands of years

Whereas  A.I. has had a few decades.

And after all

What is intelligence?

Other than the ability 

To process and adapt information.

To achieve what?

You're obsessing Mr F.

Let the wind blow high

Let the wind blow low

Through the streets

In my kilt, I'll go

All the lassies say hello

Donald, where's your troosers.

Thought that might appeal to the bit of Scotsman in you.

I'll give you Frere Jacques next time.

I agree entirely.

That was the point I was making.

There is no that we can make an actual, comparative assessment over a 3 billion year period, of a Galaxy that is 3 billion light years distant.

A "baby boom of stars" is at best, calculated speculation.

I would suggest that you have a naive appreciation of the responsibilities of a Senator.

Do you think that they sit in an ivory tower  all day, pointing their finger and proclaiming?

If you are as clever as a Senator, then why aren't you a Senator?

And alternative arguments are not necessarily better arguments, especially if they are partisan arguments.

What's up Doc.

I'm not sure what you have no idea of, as you didn't specify.

Though if you are saying that you have no idea of Frodo Baggins's sexuality.

Then we would  therefore in be agreement over the unspecified Jesus sexuality thing.

What an odd statement.

So is she also, a current heterosexual anti-feminist thicko?

Despite what you might like to think (relative to your political allegencies), I would imagine that being a Senator is quite time consuming and demanding.

Dart is for people with time to spare.

Well you proposed a hypothetical Galaxy, 3 billion light years distant.

I was referring to the fact that research suggested a "baby boom" of stars occurring between 3 and 6 billion years ago.

So to make a reasonably accurate comparative judgement, your hypothetical galaxy would need to be viewed as I suggested previously.

And  I think that it would be fair to suggest, that there are other methods of making calculated assumptions....Rather than "to know".

In this field of scientific research, the science is ongoing rather than definitive.

We're always at the forefront of knowledge, but never at the conclusion.

Yep...He's a clever eloquent Guy, and entertaining to watch and listen to.

His drive in interview, seems primarily to confound critics....Which he does capably...... I like his use of fake aggression.

Underneath all the jargon and philosophical quotes, I get the impression that his take on things is very similar to my own...

Common sense, born of the Early 1960's....And therefore a conditioned reactionary to 21st century values and sensibilities.

But always with a regard for, and an acceptance of, the inevitability of change.

My emphasis was on the word actually.

And as you have clearly explained, there is a lot that scientists do not actually know.

Just a whole lot of hypothesising with maths to fit.

I understand the concept.

But is a Galaxy simultaneously both 3 and 6 billion light years distant?

To make a comparison one would have to observe said Galaxy either 3 billion years ago or in 3 billion years time.

Just pointing out the ridiculous divergencies of Arabian theism.

Atheism is a pretty standard ideology.

Exactly.

Was Frodo Baggins gay?

You choose.

How do scientists actually know what occurred between 3 and 6 billion years ago.

JW's are considered a cult by those that wish to consider them a cult....All very bitchy, I must say.

You Arabian based theists need to get together and sort out the GOD Jesus/Jesus GOD thing, once and for all.

Club rules...What a palaver.

What is obscene Doc.

Do you mean my  hypothetical fantasy scenario.

I was actually pointing out that the Character referred to as Jesus, was never attributed a sexuality by any of the plot writers.

I went on to suggest that typically,  the Bible stories are open to interpretation, and  so it would be reasonable to assume whatever.

Obscenity wasn't in my head Doc....You must have recreated the obscenity in yours.

It is not necessarily sinful to be proud....Though the object of one's pride might be ethically questionable.

It would be more sinful perhaps, to accompany pride with arrogance.

Nonetheless, concepts of sin, range from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Ethics is basically the transfer of data (codes of conduct) from generation to generation, which can be modified to suit the current trends and objectives, of human society and human sub-societies.....Therefore ethics are variable.....Global attitudes towards homosexuality would be an obvious example of changing and variable ethics.

Morality should be about respecting others and others respecting you....Though this is often not the case.....We have a tendency to be imbued with arrogance and self-righteousness.....Which in fairness, is probably an inevitable modification of our survival instinct.

I got bored after 2.5.....All seemed like the same old speculative, inconclusive  theoretical stuff, of overpaid mathematicians and theorists.

I would suggest that the universe is matter within a space and therein lies the limits of universal potential.

And the potential of space is or isn't infinite, depending upon how one chooses to define such things.

Though definition is reliant upon matter anyway.

Things do what they do and we sometimes observe their effects, and sometimes we don't.

How would we know how stuff or the brain behaved if we didn't observe them?

And consciousness, as far as we are able to know, is.

And one can argue the religious and spiritual toss over anything.

So make a couple of slits and shine a light through them, and you will find GOD.....Yep that's another angle.

Yep...The Bible and Religion are full of unusual stuff, and some people take it literally and seriously.

The Bible is an out of date book, and old religions tend to be ridiculous hypotheses.

So what does that tell you about some people?