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Sounds like a plan.

And neither is religion essential to life.

And as you stated...Extreme implementation of data, or in other words oppressive conditioning.

Which in reality is no different to teaching kids that sex with adults is fun and O.K.....And this is widely regarded as child abuse.

Is paedophilia "straight" or not, that is the question....The permutations are fourfold one would suggest.

And Santa Claus, with bells on.

The system is inadvertently self perpetuating ..... People with varying abilities create and perpetuate the  system....Hierarchy.

The embellishment of the system and how we refer to it, is largely irrelevant....Capitalism and Socialism are just labels we apply to variations of a theme.

I would suggest, that how individuals fair within the system, depends a lot on whether it is  the pen or the sword that maintains the system.

LOL. Mikey.

And you've still got em hooked Mr Utan Ity.

Or is that my miscontraception.

I'm laughing so much, I'm leaving tiny inexcretions. 

And Lionel Richie realised that he could do better than the Commodores.

Zoom and sail on, sweet love. Cuz Jesus is love...Take it from me.....Oh No!....I'm dancing on the ceiling.

You do realise that there is no real unequivocal evidence for any creation hypothesis, don't you.

If there was we would all have to agree....How boring would that be?

"Cupture"....Good word....Something to do with Trademarked Tumblers.

"Chnanged"....Not so good.....Sounds like a oriental execution technique.

Exactly....You lack the relevant data needed, to be able to understand a simple puzzle concept....Just like Mr Athias.

Which was my original point....I.Q. can only test what you know.

Mr Athias is very good at long words and philoso-speak for example....It simply boils down to what one has and has not learned.

What about militant theists?......All those Syrian Jihadists for example.

Your paranoia is almost palpable.

Did your Dad drum into you,  to trust no one other than good ole American Christians.

Not being alive, is not the same as death.

If you had stated that life is better than death then I would have agreed.

By traditional standards I'm atheist.

As far as I am concerned, the same applies to all concept based belief systems.....But in this case, specifically satanism.

Q. Why would you never starve in the desert.

A. Because of the sand which is there.

Well I obviously wouldn't do that, as I don't believe in a fantasy GOD......That's your department.

You were assuming that I was immature....And so I assumed, that you also must assume that you are mature.....Therefore as you were clearly not in agreement, the implication would obviously be the antithesis of what you regarded as an immature statement.....Basic Inference. 

So you cannot solve them...Fine...You're database just lacks the relevant programming.

The first puzzle follows a standard three stage pattern.

And the second puzzle has two separate parts with the same answer.  The first part explains itself.... The second part is the application  of basic general knowledge and tells you what the first part means.

Rather than applying intelligence and trying to solve them, you would rather do something that you are used to doing.... In other words, argue the toss.

I.Q. measures levels of stored data and the holders ability to recall and apply said data....If one hasn't got it, then one won't be able to  do it...And If one cannot do it in the first place, it is unlikely that one will ever get it.

free underd an un ffs.

You might have  met people who refer to themselves as satanists....Just another bunch of people with fantasy concepts in their heads.

And any associated activity is just typically contrived, ritualistic baloney.

No extra-terrestrial, super-natural, fantasy beings actually required.....Just wild imagination.

Nope. These are very usual and very typical puzzles that follow a standard puzzle format...... And as I stated, and ardent puzzler would solve them in a few minutes.

it's the same with anything that requires the application of intelligence...One either possesses the know how or one doesn't.....Hence, why I questioned the validity of  Intelligence Quotient.....One must acquire  puzzle solving data before one can apply it confidently.....In this respect I would suggest that the human computer is little different to it's electronic cousin....I would further suggest that the quality of the mechanism is a separate issue.

Culture has changed.....Perhaps not to your liking....But that's just tough.

You've either got to run with it, or continue to live in the memories of your halcyon past and ignore the rest.

Tee Hee...Just if I, for sure.

Was  that was just argument for the sake of argument?

Or are you implying that  it is mature to dictate to and suppress people who do not fit with your stereotype of a good guy?

Perhaps.....Exactly.

Who said?....Exactly

Nice to see a logical approach.

And it only requires eleven words, one full stop and a question mark.

Hey Mikey...The greasy nipples and the hearty bottom, showering off.....And the worst brats are down the high street for sure...On the job and the sails are sizzling and it feels good Mikey...It feels good....And the Camry's a rite Mikey, the Camry's a rite without a doubt.....That's the porpoise Mikey.......Can you see the wood for the tree now?

Any fantasy concept can be legit.

I just think that expecting the rest of the World to be exactly as we want it to be, is unreasonable.

Exactly.

I'm not sure what "lively" represents for you.... Probably a personal expectation, perhaps shared with group of similarly conditioned people.....But out there, are millions of others who don't quite share the same worldview.....Some peoples degenerate is now a lot of peoples normal....Perhaps you are getting old... You certainly sound like my dad.

I suppose one enjoys doing puzzles or one doesn't....I do, and quite honestly I could have cracked these two simple puzzles, in a couple of minutes, as would any ardent puzzle solver..... They follow the basic format of of simple word and number puzzles.....No tricks involved.

 It's an intelligence game.  Simple as that.

Would for the tries....Mr Utan Ity.....LOL.

How come you wrote "tolded" and then got "exactly" right.....  And "allivator" sounds nothing like elevator..... And why "base meant" and not basemeant.

Just curious.

We will always discriminate where there is a perceivable difference..... But I would suggest that these days, we are tending to discriminate more on the perceivable differences of wealth and intellect....And nationalism as always, of course.

And so I suppose that wealth and intellect can be as LEFT as they can be RIGHT.....Especially If we look at the political divisions in the U.S. for example.

Hey Mikey...... I haven't read the fax yet....But your assessment is actually realistic.

So, no one on DART with an I.Q big enough two solve my two simple puzzles.

U.S. Presidents have been bombing "Poor Wretched Souls" for years......What's new.

"Life is better than not being alive2"....Do you have evidence to substantiate this claim?

Sounds like an assumption to me.

LOL.....But be careful....You're starting to get too cocky and obvious.

Some people are more gullible than others.....And some people just want to believe in a fantasy world.

Let's just say that I've never been convinced that they are genuine.

You have child drag queen story time in free thinking America.

Which has got to be better that religiously oppressed America.

And how can you be certain that all drag queens are atheists?....Isn't that just another theist assumption?

Sure....A quality suffix though.

The "revolting" joke....LOL

50% isn't a majority it's stalemate....

And the majority of Kantian philosophy is twaddle.......He was too privileged to have to worry about reality......A bit like Marx.

I would suggest that, everyone is the same but also unique...And I would further suggest that "Universalism" is either 100% or not at all.

It would be real easy peasy  being paid to sit about and think up nonsense.

So my advice would be.... If such jobs exist then go for it.

Your overriding bias defeats your objective in the first sentence.

The good sensible people of  the U.S.A simply voted to get rid of the most inept and intellectually challenged President we have seen in recent times.

Next time select yourselves a candidate who can at least string together a coherent sentence...And for goodness sake don't reselect Buffoon Boy.

Why didn't Utanity want to cross the road...Because they were already on this side....Just saying.

And just out of interest....Will you tell me, from which language are you taking the word Utan.

A wild, sweeping and unsubstantiated interjection Doc.....It's what you're good at.

But it's good to see that you think that Iran is a lively and healthy community....That's very lively and healthy of you.

That's just it.....Things are as they are and accepting that is just as good as accepting the assumption of a GOD.

Happiness is found in contentment, and is not necessarily found in an archaic creation hypothesis.

Because some people have been programmed to accept a GOD, and some people have not.....That's only the real difference between Theism and Atheism.

But...I would suggest and in no particular order.

You are bleating the Republican and Christian message.

And you've never seen a man born with one leg...That would be an exception to the rule....LOL....Think about it....His poor Mum.

And religion isn't a creation of man?

And semantics is semantics and therefore as I see it love is a metaphor and sex is sex.

And as an exception to my normal rule, I did in fact vote against Brexit...But I would rather that those in charge would just get on with it now. It won't stop my enjoyment of the Tour de France.

And sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't, that's the fun of it....Debateart would be boring otherwise.

Thanks.....I will definitely do some more research.

Do you know of any good books?