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Why you cant see god
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@Utanity
Hey Mikey.

Notwithstanding that atheists don't subscribe to a GOD business, so consequently wouldn't expect to see one.


Yep. Religion is big business run by fat cats.


And what do porpoises have to do with it?
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TeacherOfPhilosophy
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@Reece101
"Hypocrite"...Poor choice of words, in these circumstances.
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Why you cant here god
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@Utanity
I go cycling on Sundays, and convene with friends and nature and consider the GOD principle. No Malls around here.

Cycling's a bit like church, but a much healthier pastime.
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Everything what is true
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@Utanity
Said Mikey to the Porpoise.
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TeacherOfPhilosophy
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@Reece101
I'm fully aware of the words "truth" and "fact" and the definitions thereof.

But did you also take into account every other pertinent definition. Such as assume, ability and unknown.

You're breaking  statements down into their component parts and scrutinizing components separately, rather that scrutinizing the whole.

This becomes a lexical semantics argument, rather than a philosophical argument.
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Concerning the validity of I.Q.
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@Athias
So you can't solve them.
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@Reece101
The misinterpretation and misuse of words, or straying form formal definition is  commonplace.

Primarily, a fact is a known truth.

Though we have the ability to assume that there are unknown facts.

And a string of factors that make up a statement can be incorrectly regarded as being a fact...Such as, the Cat sat on the mat wearing a hat whilst, eating a Rat.



We assume that External reality is.....And internal data processing, though amazing, is inconsistent. 


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if you were a jew during the old testament times, would you execute active homosexuals?
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@Utanity
OOOOH Mikey.....A nasty abscess for thirty days......Punishment enough.
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Why you cant see god
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@Utanity
Hey Mikey.

What's da porpoise of all dat rubbing?

Whoops!....Here, there and everywhere.
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@Utanity
Hey Mikey.

What's the porpoise of the white nose?

So that Santa's reindeer can hide in the snow.


Dabee dabee dooooooo.
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Does Evolution Really Contradict the Bible?
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@Jarrett_Ludolph
Creation, then a period of evolution....Pretty logical.

As evolution is still apparent  and ongoing, and we assume a cause.

The cause/creation can be regarded as a GOD principle. 

Though  naive creation myths that arose a few thousand years ago are largely illogical.

The fact that some people still believe these archaic creation myths and some do not,  is simply indicative of how humanoid data storage and transfer units have evolved.
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Everything what is true
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@3RU7AL
Utanity?... Is winding you up.....They have dropped enough hints.
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Santa claws are not true
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@Utanity
Nice one Mikey.
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Everything what is true
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@Utanity
You forgeted on porpoise the fly with the doolies. Dabbee doo. Mikey.

Well done..... you fooled me....LOL.


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@Utanity
Atheists don't go baaaa, when the Pastor says pray.

And it was you who referred to  Christians and  flocks.
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Concerning the validity of I.Q.
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@Intelligence_06
Not nonsense...Just two tests of mental acuity.
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Concerning the validity of I.Q.
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@FLRW
No incorrect.    It's a puzzle not a sequence.
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"I Have Two Virgin Daughters......
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@ethang5
You knew what I was alluding to though.

So you're not so conservative yourself.
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Is teaching kids about Hell moral?
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@Utanity
Nope, I had a wonderful childhood....And my kids are doing just fine thanks....And hopefully you treat your kids with kindness and respect too.

So can you actually prove that the Christianity Story is not non-sense?.....If you can, you will be the first to do it.

And don't just quote the bible, because the bible was compiled by fallible people.
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@Utanity
Sorry..... Thought you were talking about people, rather than sheep.
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Concerning the validity of I.Q.
I challenged some Dart Genii to a test of their mental acuity. But got little response.
Does any one else feel like having a go?


This was the puzzle I posed:
1 2 5 20 1 4 5 20 ?
What is the missing number.

And here is another:
Firstly Ethang5
Secondly Athias
Lastly Seldiora.
But what was seventh?

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@Utanity
Santa Claus is made up!

And no meat in my kebab, as I'm not into slaughtering fatted calves.


Though correct me if I'm wrong....Wasn't  Santa Claus, a.k.a. Saint Nicholas, a Fourth Century Christian Bishop of Myra?

I think that you will find, that Santa Claus was made up by Christians.
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On the validity of I.Q. as a measurement of intelligence
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@FLRW
No.

It's a simple puzzle, but not that simple.

So what's happened to all the genii with their I.Q's?
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Is teaching kids about Hell moral?
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@Utanity
Talk about using the guilt trip trick.
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Is teaching kids about Hell moral?
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@Utanity
My kids are 35 and 33.....One is a Pharmacist and the other is a Social Worker...They text but don't play techno games.

As for sexting......Who knows what hormonally driven organisms get up to in their free time....Are you left handed or right handed?

And referring to my kids as scum, makes you just about the scummiest Dart member that I have encountered thus far.

And we don't have Mall's in the U.K. ....We have Shopping Centres.
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God and Dreamtime stories.
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@Utanity
But you only think what you think etc.
Started off super-logical....But quickly tailed off.


But.....If I am on the other side of the planet...Perhaps that puts you somewhere near the Pacific Ocean...Is this correct?


And I never thought that a GOD was BOB.....I thought and decided that the GOD principle was a valid enough hypothesis....I just referred to it as BOB so as not to confuse you.


But you are still confusing your particular GOD hypothesis, with a basic hypothesis-less principle.

BOB is the basis of all GOD hypotheses....DO you understand?
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"I Have Two Virgin Daughters......
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@crossed
I'm confused...Did they use strap ons and palm oil?

This really is just another page in the book of biblical pornography.

Which all started with Adam and his veritable serpent.
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@Tradesecret
@Utanity
I accept Trade at face value and I accept Utanity at face value.

The only difference that I see, is that Trade's illogic is somewhat more eloquently presented  that Utanity's illogic.


Though like a lot of Dart users, Utanity feels unable to give us even their most basic of details, such as age, gender and place of residence....Which always makes one sceptical.


And hell in the traditional sense, is as illogical as heaven.

And teach your kids nonsense and they will grow up believing in nonsense.
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Abortion?
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@Checkmate
Telling people not to have sex, would be like trying to tell kids to switch off their devices. 


Morals, Abortion, Technology.....The evolution of human capability.


Sex is just the temporary scratch  of the permanent itch......All that we need is an App.
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@Utanity
You only think that your GOD is everybody else's GOD, because that is what you were taught to think.

And BOB is just a principle, which might or might not be your GOD.


And I didn't actually mention the Arabs, who you referred to as "SCUM".....I initially, only referred to the Arabian Peninsular.


And GODS are neither true nor false.....Just possibilities.
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@MgtowDemon
So genii,  here is a simple test of your mental acuity.

What is the missing number.

1 2 5 20 1 4 5 20 ?
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Napoelon was the good guy in the napoleonic wars
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@KeLu777
Napoleon....Another megalomaniac beaten by the Russian weather.

What was Hitler thinking?
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Abortion?
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@Checkmate
Everything is natural.....Basic instinct is still the same, though other activities, including abortion and being moral, have naturally developed.
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Christians are more smart than the atheists
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@Tradesecret
Very non-intelligent people......Say no more.

But we should encourage and not criticise.

Though brick walls and wind pi**ing spring readily to mind.


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@Utanity
I wasn't referring to your specific GOD....Just the principle....So I referred to it as BOB so as not to confuse you.....Please pay attention.

And some Arabs are Muslim and some Arabs are Christian....Do your homework.

Though I was only referring to the Arabian Peninsular, as the region where the Abrahamic faiths originated.....Please pay attention.

And "Blasphemy" was justification for sadists, and still is in certain situations.
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@KeLu777
People breed and people endure....Faith in a limited hypothesis is an accompaniment....And the transfer of data is inevitable...And the relevance of data is only relevant to what it is relevant to.


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@Reece101
An effect, affects.

So are aware of  effect, because it affects.

Therefore because of the affect, we referred to the effect as gravity.
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@KeLu777
Yep. The rational notion for GOD/BOB is purpose over nihilism....Though whether that is rational or not is impossible to say.

I base my BOB assumption purely on the existence of matter and the evolution thereof....Which is purpose enough.

0-1 is symbolic of BOB.
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@Reece101

There is an effect that we refer to as gravity...To which we applied tall tales....And then we applied science and gained understanding.



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@MgtowDemon
Your obsessed with linking sources.

I'm confident in my own ability.

K.
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@KeLu777
It might be accurate to say billions.

And if population increases then indoctrination will increase proportionately, obviously relative to the breeding tendencies of certain sub-groupings.

So there will undoubtedly be similar increases in the Christian, Islam and Atheist clubs....Though which one becomes the most popular club depends primarily on who breeds the quickest.

Nonetheless, the enjoyment of,  and devotion to historical fiction is what it is.....Living in the past.

It's the very select clever club that moves things forward.


And a GOD looks down in amazement, and says what the F**K....And chuckles to itself.




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@Utanity
Nope. Atheists lack a belief in a specific GOD.....Which doesn't mean that they cannot assume a purpose in material existence.....People that assume a purposeless existence are usually referred to as nihilists.

I just utilise the well known term "GOD" , which I assume represents a purpose.....If you find that confusing, then I will refer to it as BOB instead.

I certainly do not believe any BOB principle.....I simply consider them.

I consider the Christian hypothesis to be fundamentally the same as all hypotheses, but I consider the accompanying tales that sprung up a few thousand years ago in the Arabian Peninsular, to be nothing more than the naive reasoning that they clearly were. 




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Evidence for the Christian god?
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@TheUnderdog
Yep. I'm sure there's a whole load of logic in there somewhere.....Just can't put my finger on it though.
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What Is It Like In Heaven
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@Utanity
Well, I expect those words were blocked for a reason.

You have a personal message which others may or may not agree with and vice versa.

Better to be verbose than vitriolic.
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@Reece101
Well hypotheses vary from the sublime to the ridiculous and the ridiculously sublime....Make of that what you will.

I currently work on the idea, of material evolution with a purpose, rather than nihilism.

GOD is just an epithet.
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@Checkmate
Science is the application of the human mind and and it's enhanced  ability to manipulate information. Which allows us to study natural processes and further our understanding of them.

So in reality scientific facts have come from the human mind.....Nature is only what it is, and not science per se.

GODS are also a product of the human mind, though at best pseudo scientific.... In so much as effects were noticed and causes were hypothesised, but not scientifically established.

Why is there a thunder storm up in the sky....Well there must be a GOD up there creating it.........Eventually, science provided us with the real solution.

As to the origins of matter.....That one is currently unknown.....GODS are one of many hypotheses.
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@Lit
As things stand "Christianity" is just a club based upon one creation hypothesis....And the club book has yet to be verified.....Afterlife like GODS is an assumption, and there are various hypothetical afterlife and GOD formats.

Nonetheless given the nature of Christian texts and their disjointed compilation, contradiction and misinterpretation is only to be expected....So make of Christian texts what you want to make of them....It's the beauty of the religion.
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@n8nrgmi
Evolution demands the survival of the brightest....Money is simply a means to an end.

Nonetheless, one doesn't require billions to find contentment.
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Do children start out atheist?
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@Tradesecret
Sorry.

You will have to explain.

I've based my understanding purely on lexical semantics and the innocence of the unconditioned infant.
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What Is It Like In Heaven
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@Utanity

An enemy is hostile opposition, so never good, from the point of view of the self righteous.

And the use of the word "scum" is equally as arbitrary....In so much as A and B are both "scum" in each others eyes, whilst they are also both righteous in their own eyes.  

The thoughts of men are not necessarily the thoughts of a GOD....A GOD might decide that A's and B's mutual hostility and contradictory self-righteousness, is just not the sort of scummy behaviour that is required in heaven.

N.B.    "Scum" and consequently scummy are not words that I would normally choose to use....I am merely quoting for the purposes of emphasis.
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