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Do you know Bro D personally?

I just get the impression  that it's all an act.

And we will have to ask Trade to clarify things.

What is "Wym"?

I have no doubt that Trade is sincere....I was referring to Bro D's acting.

And I am led to believe that Trade is female.....Correct me if I am wrong.

I am merely suggesting that issues are often simple and that humans have a tendency to want to over-complicate them.....Which often results in contradictory or selective morality.

It is also reasonable to say that the trend must continue down beyond cause and effect, to 0.

That's what Mr Trump wanted you to believe.

And you fell for it.

Humans out-sheeping the sheep again.....Baaaa. 

What's up Doc.

Nope....Love the topic.

Objective logic is seemingly a truism....though I don't think that it actually is.

Who decides what is and isn't objective, in a mythological context?

Very well thank you.

It's good to have you back.

And I hope that you were aware, that once again I argued your case.

Three cheers for Mr Biden hey?

As I stated earlier (#4). It would depend upon where and when..... Though I certainly wouldn't kill myself, as if it happened then it was meant to happen. 

So primarily, hide and assess the situation.

His behaviour is part of his act.

Whereas one got the impression that your behaviour was emotional.

Do we now have the new mellower Mr Ethan?

More than likely that as well.

Are you saying that right and wrong are universal constants?

Or did we not just make them up?

And are we not selectively moral anyway?

Killing one thing bothers us less than killing another...Humans included.

Unless of course,  you are a pacifist, fruitarian, hermit.

Nope. You make everything he says personal....Provoking a response is his aim.

Ignorance is your best tactic, but you are easily provoked.

Stephen does exactly the same, though we only assume that he is more sincere.

And one could easily read the the same cause and effect implications into your reasoning, as you could into mine.

Hiding is the beauty of this medium.

Therefore, if your scenario is purely pretence, then why would you kill yourself?

Just pretend that being there is not a future problem.

Your response is Brother D's success.

He's smarter than you think.

When is a religion not a religion?

Scientology is a for profit organisation that sells nonsense to the gullible......Hmmmmmm......Sounds like religion.

Sport is the taking part and not the watching.

What is a magical translator?

Just depends on the duck.

Hopefully all Americans are democratic.

One person has an axe to grind and so interprets the bible one way, and another person has a different axe and so interprets it differently.

Same old.

A measured response....is this the a new Mr Ethang?

That's what he tells you, and you believe him.

Just what the German people did 85 years ago.

Surely we've learnt how to spot a megalomaniac by now.

How is it incorrect? 

How is it essentially just admitting defeat?

Yep, murder is philosophically justifiable....  But that's generally not the way things happen..... Because murder is socially unacceptable.....Of course, murder like most things is open to interpretation.

Trouble is prescription drugs prolong life before they kill you.

And substances exist for sure. But the jury is still out as to how they got there....You have one idea.

Supposedly, it was Jesus's dad that made the penis and labia minora fun as well as functional for us.

It's humans that get hung up about it....God probably shakes it's head in disbelief sometimes.

Spoketh Jesus to his disciples....Yum Yum Y'all.......Though cut from later texts as we developed repression.....But never forgotten and currently very popular again.

Yep, just like the GOD that exists in your mind.

Though to be fair, various GODS started out as  very naive creation hypotheses.....

Acquired knowledge quickly disproved these old ideas......But some people still derive a great deal of pleasure from them.

Christmas is no different to Halloween......Just different costumes and a tad more expensive.

There's probably a lot more history than in the history books.

Primarily a solution to the greenhouse gas problem....Though ultimately a solution and an end to our evolutionary purpose. 

Our future will perhaps be someone or something else's history.

Constantly saving millions upon millions of lives is one of the biggest problems facing the natural world.

Medical intervention has overridden natural selection.....And so you could say that most of us are naturally unselected....Which is a fascinating contradiction.

OH GOD!... I hear the theists crying.

We need to kill to survive.

It's just that meat is fluffier and cuter than beans.

It's all in the mind, just like morality.

If there is a purpose, I doubt that it is to hang around on this speck of cosmic dust for ever.

It will be necessary to escape the Sun eventually.

As I suggested, this isn't going to happen overnight.

Solar flare proofing might  be a necessary development, irrespective of what or who is on board.....Depends upon which way you're heading I suppose.

And "masturbation chambers"...Good idea...Sexual gratification only needs a quick fix....Reproduction will need to become a more selective process, best achieved in the factory laboratory.

Why keep producing redundant illogical numpties?

How, and by whom?

I must of missed that.

Did Donald Trump do it?

Atheist minds are very open.

That's why they are atheists.

And what about Trump's hair.

Technological creep is very subtle but highly addictive.

And the masses are prone to gullibility and susceptible to the will of charismatic leadership.

And I don't suppose that either of us is on board, but the future is seemingly infinite and won't be ours to worry about.

It's taken homo-sapiens some 300000 years to get thus far.... So technology is already way ahead of us in terms of evolutionary development....And we're making it so.

The future is bright...the future is digital.

Can you prove that?

As no one else as ever been able to.

The word GOD, was the expression of human ignorance.

Today the word GOD has a variety of applications, some stupid some more reasonable.

GOD as a representation of an ultimate reality is what it is. 

And singing and dancing and praying and swishing incense around, is also what it is.

Selective breeding and a global standard of education based on pure logic. 

Humans as is, are undoubtedly clever but also illogical and prone to stupidity.

I think that we are heading in this direction, though it will be a while before the sentient inorganic has complete control over us.

I would also suggest that the GOD principle/ultimate reality, is probably inorganic.

So, maybe you are already singing from the same hymn sheet, but just don't actually know it.

What's up Doc?

Was that written in Guadeloupean?

I've just found a Calabi-Yau manifold curled up in my underpants drawer.

None of the above can be validated, as there is no universal standard.

We are simply, composite lumps of matter that think.

And morality is a concept thereof, as is GOD.

This is realism, not nihilism.

Nihilist is what conceptualist theists name call atheist realists.

Yep, everything is a product of the universe...... Even the concept of a supernatural GOD.

A nihilist would say that this has probably all happened before somewhere, and if the shit does eventually hit the fan, then what the f**K.

Though maybe we are clever enough and will find the solution, as we were meant to do.

Yep, we're rapidly evolving into a future, where humans will become more and more superfluous....This clearly suggests to me that humanity is only a means to something else.

So knowledge is going to be key,  if you want to stay in the game.

Everything is natural.

Hearing voices is a mental health issue.

And sex is fundamentally reproduction, though sexual pleasure and sexual gratification can be achieved in a variety of ways.

We currently have a global population of 7.6 billion approx. So indulging in a bit of the other isn't going to matter much. Especially as we are no longer reliant upon physical intercourse for conception.

The above is realism..... And religion is an unnecessary but popular distraction.

So if someone murders you because a GOD told them to do so..... It is not because a GOD spoke...It is because they have mental health issues.

And if it was a Christian, we should be sympathetic and if it was a Muslim we should blow the f**k out of them....And vice versa.

The wonders of humanity, hey.

Nope.

You just process data and come out with stuff, in exactly the same way that most people do.

Nothing that you output,  actually proves the existence of a specific GOD.

An ultimate reality may well be a specific GOD..... But all the eulogising, ritual and paraphernalia associated with your specific religion is just pie in the sky.

You yourself readily acknowledge that the ultimate reality is unknowable.....So why, as you have no idea what it is and what if any it's requirements might be, do you give it a name and worship it in the way that you do.

T. Ultimate reality is logical....A Specific GOD is an assumption....And therefore religious behaviour, although it might make you feel good, is pointless. 

A. Ultimate reality is logical...A Specific GOD is an assumption....And therefore religious behaviour has know meaning and is pointless. But I still feel good....Because I channel my energy into other things.

You assume that a GOD has been revealed to you....Though, this is not the same as a GOD actually being revealed to you.

One can assume anything.

Morals are constructed by those that consider themselves to know better.

And incest refers to a sex act between closely related people.

At the end of the day one chooses what one considers to be OK,  irrespective of preordained morality.

Though we generally conform to social norms,  sometimes some people choose not to.

There's a big difference between "A Creator" and  a creation.

"A Creator" has secondary implications attached.....Namely, "A Creator"......Or in other words, an uncreated precursor. 

In suggesting "A Creator" you are suggesting:  A. An unconstructed entity.  With B:  The ability to construct something from nothing.... Both of which are illogical.

Though, if it is logical that something can be constructed from nothing, then it's therefore also logical to suggest that there is no need for "A Creator".

Yep. Same old stuff.

Though the carrot thing was more of a reference to an old sci-film I watched years ago about Alien invasion....The Thing From Another World.... The alien beings weren't typically humanoid, but looked more like giant carrots.  Although the film wasn't particularly good, I nonetheless  thought that the concept was an interesting take on evolutionary possibilities.

Trump was always going to be the carrot...... Especially as he still want's to be the star of the show.