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@MisterChris
Which bit of the World are you referring to?
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@ILikePie5
Presidential candidates must possess an I.Q. and not exceed the retirement age.
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@Greyparrot
@HistoryBuff
Hitler was of the day, when Empire building was still in fashion and discrimination wasn't so frowned upon, and his achievements although brutal, were nonetheless remarkable.
Whereas Trump is an inept and intellectually deficient bloke who bought a Presidency.
The comparison to make is between the German people of the time and the American people of today....As David Icke would say: Humans have a tendency to outsheep the sheep......Baaaa
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@RationalMadman
"Considering that the Earth could be flat".....Humans went there and did that and emphatically concluded that the Earth was spherical....And moved on.
Therefore I have no reason to think otherwise.
And interesting how some Americans still retain Soviet induced angst......Move on.... Most Russians have.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Interesting argument, which clearly dispels theist claims.
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@Stephen
I agree.
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@BrotherDThomas
Yep. The bible sure is full of irrelevant s**t.
Which goes to show, that no one actually takes it that seriously.
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@RationalMadman
Pictures were not necessary.
Though, I believe that the Soviets were the first to take a look.
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@Athias
Vigorous reasoning is as vigorous reasoning does.....One can reason vigorously with nonsense.
And the comparison you made between open mindedness and cherry picking, is just that.
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@Athias
A. Yes...A state of disorder...Absolute freedom of the individual.
B. Governments are real enough.
C. "Give rise to the management of a State"......Exactly....True socialism is only a philosophical concept.
Anarchy is only a philosophical concept.
So everyone agrees that tomorrow will be anarchy..... And one person will turn to another and ask, what shall I do now.
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@Intelligence_06
Yep....That's got to be it.....Boink was a dead giveaway....MisterChris obviously has a uniform fetish.
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@RationalMadman.
There you go, turning constructive criticism into persecution.
The Earth is spheroid, not flat, and this was a known fact long before 1958...And hypothesised long before 1600.
Even if there is a conspiracy, you are creating a conspiracy that is current and relative to you, rather than a conspiracy relative to the historical facts.
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@Intelligence_06
LOL....You're winding me up.
Do you see these Military figures stood outside the school gates in the morning.
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@RationalMadman
It's not so much the intelligence that's the problem....It's the fragility of the delivery system.
And Alternative Intelligence is only a few years into it's evolution....So give a while.
After all, it has taken human intelligence at least 3 million years to get thus far.
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@Intelligence_06
So ask the good looking Mom next door.
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@Intelligence_06
You didn't search in the right places....So ask your Mom.
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@RationalMadman
Nope... I keep telling you that the Earth was known to be spheroid long before the U.S.A. or N.A.S.A. were first thought of.
As I previously suggested, you appear to have a persecution complex, whereby you will always seek to find conspiracy, where no conspiracy exists.
The conspiracy exists only inside your head.
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@Athias
Was there ever a society without hierarchy and therefore some sort of order.
Anarchy is like true socialism....A philosophical concept only....Both rendered impractical by the inherent nature of the beast.
True socialism would be anarchy.
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@Athias
Are you saying that you are open minded on the issue of the existence of a god?
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@Tradesecret
University is university and a college is a college.
And qualifications in an assumption will always be what they are, irrespective of the sincerity of those involved.
As, no matter how refined an assumption may become, it nonetheless always remains an assumption until it is unequivocally proven to be correct.
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@Athias
Exactly.
We all cherry pick.
Therefore the same contention can be equally applied to theists.
So stalemate as ever, though we are never keen to agree that this is the case.
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@fauxlaw
Biased Democrats will obviously dislike biased Republicans and vice versa..... As exemplified by your good self.
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@RationalMadman
And do you think that China is being wholly honest.
And how much heed do you think Russia and China actually pay to U.N. mandates. Especially when you consider who might regard themselves to be the main shot callers.
And in the context of the Flat Earth subject, N.A.S.A founded in 1958 is somewhat if not wholly irrelevant. All spheroid Earth subterfuge would have been initiated, millennia previously by European and Middle Eastern Scholars, long before the U.S.A was ever dreamed of.
And the purpose of such subterfuge would seem to be purposeless, as the Earth might just as well be spheroid as be flat.
And do you have a persecution complex?....Because, why do you feel that a valid Forum response is someone trolling you?....No one else on this site is as fearful.
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@Tradesecret
You're playing dumb now.
Read and analyse, and a person of your self reputation should easily understand.
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@Athias
We will all tend to limit the scope of evidence, or perhaps more correctly, cherry pick suitable evidence and disregard evidence that doesn't suit our mindset.....As conditioned individuals, we have strongly established ideas that we protect, often zealously.
I think that I have a pretty flexible mindset when it comes to creation hypotheses, in so much as I readily accept a GOD principle as logical. The hyperbole of accompanying religious myth is somewhat harder to take seriously, but I nonetheless acknowledge that myth will incorporate fact based data, though with a tendency to be somewhat exaggerated and fantastically embellished.
Your particular use of the word "God" is very pertinent for some reason.... It somehow sums things up in nutshell....The accompanying rhetoric, though undoubtedly erudite, is rendered somewhat superfluous.
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@ILikePie5
I'll keep walking in circles....Content in the knowledge that you are well aware of what I mean.
I have no reason to be biased, whereas you may have.
Nonetheless, digging up old dead men is simply digging the dirt.
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@Tradesecret
There are no real qualifications though.
Pseudo-qualification and sincerity, still doesn't validate the Christian god hypothesis....Or the Christian god hypothesis doesn't validate your pseudo-qualifications or sincerity.
You might or might not be counselling troubled people with invalid data.
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@Jarrett_Ludolph
Compatible is as compatible does.
Lay them side by side and there wouldn't be any problems.
People are the things that assume to have incompatible ideas.
For me...Creation then evolution..... And god theories evolved alongside the evolution of consciousness and memory.
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@RationalMadman
It was known by those that knew.
Nonetheless in relative terms the U.S.A. and obviously N.A.S.A (1958) are spring chickens.
Information isn't the sole preserve of the U.S.A. you know....Far from it.
Ask Zeno.
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@ILikePie5
Nice try.
But they are probably similarly racist underneath.
The relevant question is, who is currently more proactively racist.
And race doesn't necessarily mean black and white.
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@seldiora
The most enjoyable Asian sport, is mixed naked mud wrestling. (Lightweight division) (Pro)
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@Intelligence_06
Given that the Earth was known to be spheroid long before The U.S.A, N.A.S.A and their co-conspirators we even heard of.....Means that the B.O.P. lies somewhere between "Flat Earthers" and their therapists.
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@Greyparrot
Like a lot of Americans you appear to have a partisan "fixation".
And the question was simple. "Black community"
And my reference to Obama only suggested inspiration as a benefit and did not mention economics....Though the distribution of wealth, is largely governed by the supply of wealth, irrespective of who is in charge....Swings and roundabouts, as it were.
Interesting how my reference to Obama, stimulated partisan prejudices though.
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@ILikePie5
I have never said this.
You extrapolated an incorrect assumption from my opening data sequence.
It's interesting though that you assumed I was referring to Trump. And also interesting that you must have largely ignored following data sequences that firmly stated to the contrary.
Interesting.... Because this is how so often, misinterpretation of data becomes such a effective, divisive and manipulative political tool.
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@MisterChris
Knowledge ultimately is power.
And in the grand scheme of things, Putin will be long dead and largely forgotten.
And if A.I./other intelligence, is eventually responsible for the demise of organic intelligence, it could be argued that this was perhaps an evolutionary requirement.
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@ILikePie5
As I tried to suggest initially, given their ages, Trump and Biden are probably similarly conditioned. How they are able to manage and output data relative to modern expectations is what currently makes the difference.
My point is, that utilising old data output that was relative to past expectations, as a discrediting tool, is a tad disingenuous and cynical.
Of course, this is one of the drawbacks of having wealthy, old, male Caucasians as potential spokespeople for a modern racially diverse society.
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@Theweakeredge
Nope....The Earth is spheroid as we all well know, and latitude and longitude are human points of reference only....As are N S E and W.
Perhaps you misunderstood my intent.
Regards.
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@MisterChris
Putin doesn't have the knowledge or mental capability to develop it....Super intelligent people will do that.
Though eventually super-smart A.I. will probably develop itself.
A.I. evolution is in it's infancy, so give it time.
How long has it taken humanity to evolve to it's current levels of technological knowledge and understanding?
Things will continue to develop for thousands of years after we have perished.
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@Theweakeredge
The South is bigger than the North don't you know?
Depends upon your point of reference I suppose.
Maybe the South starts at the equator and the North starts at the Arctic Circle.
Of course if the division between East and West is 0 degrees longitude, then in the U.S.A the West will be bigger than the East, whereas in the U.K. they are exactly the same size.
Or is that just being silly?
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@ILikePie5
Are we talking the same Byrd and the same Strom..... Both dead and buried.....Products of a different era.
If you had been born and raised in the same era you would almost certainly been as racial motivated as they were.
Times change and the living have to adapt.....Stop worrying about dead men.
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@Greyparrot
The question specifically asked who had done what for the "Black Community". Not, who had done what for the U.S.A.
You've hijacked the issue somewhat. Seemingly for purposes other than what was intended.
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@Stephen
I would suggest that the term "Sons of god", was never meant to be anything other than a metaphor.
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@RationalMadman
Neither hedonism nor stoicism.
Just a bloke that gets up in the morning and goes to bed in the evening....Contentment is my goal.
And philosophy is as simple or as academic, in as far you care to take it..... The same with any thought application.....I enjoy listening to music occasionally, but I do not strive to be an orchestral musician, and neither do I flog my self with disappointment at not achieving such.
Worrying philosophical overthink does not achieve contentment.
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@Our_Boat_is_Right
There's doing things and then there's doing things.
And it's no good judging the past by todays standards.
Obviously in terms of inspiration, Obama will have done more than Trump....Though that's forgotten, and move on.
And what Trump might have achieved so far, is forgotten and move on.
Whether or not the "Black Community" ( Interesting segregationist reference) or the wider community are still suitably impressed by Trump, remains to be seen.
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@RationalMadman
Atheism, nihilism and theism are all abstract concepts, which we utilise either more or less relative to our own conditioning and data processing tendencies.
In reality we are neither atheist of nihilist we are just human beings whose primary focuses are survival and sex. Everything else is is as relevant or irrelevant as we individually make it.
For me, atheism and theism are similar considerations that do not impinge upon my existence at all. They are no more than interesting concepts to discuss for an hour or so in the morning, and then forgotten.
I have a life full of other more demanding considerations and interests, which will continue to make my short existence on this planet purposeful.
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@ILikePie5
Nope.
Old men, probably similarly conditioned, the difference being how they are able to adapt to modern expectations.
And Storm Thurmond was of the day and is now totally irrelevant.
Utilising old data as a discrediting tool is only to be expected.
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@ILikePie5
Everyone is racist....It's the inevitability of perceivable difference.
Though some people are more overtly racist than others.
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