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It's as feasible an hypothesis as any other, taking into account certain popular factors.

Initiation event>expansion> material evolution>GOD principle>universal decline/regression>physical singularity>re-initiation.

The soul thing is interesting in terms of an accumulated universal component/GOD principle. Though I tend to think that advanced technologies will formulate the the GOD principle, that will enable re-initiation.....Our purpose is to enable the evolution of  technology.   

I  use the word GOD, as it is an immediate point of reference and also because a purposeful sequence of a physical events may require a catalyst. Though In terms of mainstream theism, I am a non-participant. 

Had a quick wiki look at Arp, which only refers to his his work in mainstream astronomy.  So how do you tie Arp's hypotheses in with your more esoteric take on things.

This notion of yours  would seem to concur with mine above....The ceding of responsibility to a greater intelligence....Fragile organic intelligence handing over the responsibility of the universal sequence to a more robust inorganic intelligence. Whether or not we are able to participate all the way to a universal conclusion is something I also consider, and I see no reason why we would "no longer be human anymore" if we did.

That's a biased opinion.

Oxford dictionaries:  An occurrence can suggest a logical consequence.

To know ones state of mind is to pretend.

Though to forget that one is pretending is to lose ones mind.

Tablet 7, must be between tablet 6 and tablet 8.  Otherwise it is just the tablet.

Nope.... I said cause and effect implies purpose, rather than requires purpose.

It's a thought, but physicists might disagree with you.

On what evidence do you base your thoughts.

Nonetheless, do you also think that humanity will go on for ever?

My current thoughts are, that this sequence of events that we find ourselves a part of, have happened before and will probably happen again.

True.  But what is belief?

It's a word that ambiguously defines something.

And imagination is what we base belief upon.

In fact if you think about it without imagination nothing would change, we would still be dunking them in the pond rather than a nice font, and sin would always be fun. In fact we wouldn't be dunking them at all.

Nonetheless baptism is for repressive types.

Thou shalt keepest thy member within thy trousers, or be damned by some god bloke...Splish splash splosh, now run along and stone an adulteress to death, for god lovest a good stoning. I err he findeth it quite exciting. OOOOH!

Baptism is therefore for repressive hypocritical types...... Or mummies or daddies of course who want to be seen to do things properly.

Nope. Fortunately the camera obscura had been invented by then.

Nonetheless my points are wholly valid and you seem to have ignored them.

You religious guys just have a personally stylised version of biblical stuff , irrespective of the obvious inaccuracies and contradictions the bible contains. Whereas a sceptic accepts the bible, for what it actually is. A compilation of various versions of tales, relative to certain events that may or may not have occurred in a narrowly defined region, some 2000 or more years ago.

A mythology, or if you prefer a mythological hypothesis put forward by a collection of people who were reasonably well educated for the time, but nonetheless ignorant of so much.

I've said it twice and it's factually correct as far as anyone actually knows.

Any other sin based bulls**t as far as anyone actually knows, is sin based bulls**t.

Media is as biased as you allow it to be and therein lies the issue.

If you are a certain age then you will more than likely be addicted to media technology, the ultimate goal of which is uncertain, but current goals have been achieved. I would suggest  that a lot of people are slightly less free than people used to be. 

And if capitalist tyranny means freedom from human tyranny, then I think that I prefer it that way....Fortunately or not I haven't been able to make comparisons.

As for technological tyranny....Well I think  we have just got to run with it or get left behind....Though I think that we will eventually be out paced.

At the time of Jesus's birth (If we are to accept such as factual) the Earth was well populated and humankind well distributed. So terms like Levite and Judahite are only locally relevant....So Jesus being the son of a universal god and only the adopted son of a local carpenter is surely of universal heritage....

The fact that gullible Joe's heritage is uncertain is probably just reflective of poor record keeping....

Point of fact:  My Great Grandfather according to official records has 4 different surnames, and that was record keeping from only 120 years ago....All down to misinterpretation and misspelling. So the chances of biblical accounts being accurate are practically zero.

Joseph who?

Wild imagination and a pond.

There must have been a coin.

There is a coin, but not necessarily where it could be.

Of course, whether lives matter or not is actually a question we do not know the answer to.

And we are all selectively moral and biased in our regard for life anyway.

And that's assuming that morality might actually mean something.

It's interesting how people of "mixed parentage" tend to assume blackness....Maybe black is the default setting.

A few thousand years from now, if humanity survives.  I suspect that the human species will have on the whole, reverted to type B.

There might still be a few of them there rednecks hiding in the back woods somewhere....That's assuming that there are still some backwoods left to hide in of course.

Though B as it currently stands is more representative of origin, and far less to do with skin tone.

Yep...And cause and effect imply purpose rather than randomness.

Hey. The guy knew the risks and didn't bother to take the precautions...He's only got himself to blame...And yep, hopefully a message to others on the left or right with the same laissez faire attitude.

He might be the most inept President ever....But get well soon Donald.

It's the one that comes after tablet 6, and before tablet 8.

Yep.... I was only saying recently that humans have a fascination for both, ball action and watching other peoples ball action.

It must be an evolutionary thing.   

I agree that BLM is a counter-intuitive slogan.

I also agree that ALM is more appropriate where equality is concerned.

I'm not sure what "extreme equality" might be, because as I see it equality is either equality or not.

Extreme equality would seem to just reverse the polarities of inequality, which I suppose you might say is what the BLM slogan inadvertently or even deliberately does.

Which brings me nicely back to Animal Farm.

What what?

Not really, if things are preordained.

Though perhaps you only dwell on humanity rather than a bigger picture.

Or.... Do you think that we will make it to the end of the universe?

True...So much to choose from.

A person throwing a ball, at another person who is attempting to hit said ball with a stick....Sounds like cricket to me....Different outfits though.

It's interesting how people gain such amusement from playing with their balls.

To paraphrase Orwell...All lives matter, but some lives matter more than others.

It's the nature of the beast, irrespective of it's skin tone.

TRUMP:   Virus, what virus?....Oh this virus.

If the universe has a beginning, a span and an end and perhaps a re-initiation, then the very nature of the sequence is deterministic....Factor in a corresponding sequence of material/universal evolution, and determinism seems to be a very logical assumption...Call it a GOD principle if you will, but logically that's probably not going to be some guy floating around on a cloud somewhere else.

But as you say... How can we know?

And what is seaonla infor,aton?

LOL....How so what?

Wild imagination and a pond.

Wikipedia is as Wikipedia does.

And god outside the universe is a valid but wholly unproven hypothesis.

Makes sense to me. 

Plurality seems to be the Dart word of the moment.

When one views the night sky, Aquarius is not so obvious.  Yet Orion, Ursa Major and Cassiopeia seem to dominate, so what is their significance?

And what significance do you place on the current positions of Venus and Mars which dominate the early morning sky?

Selective astrology always seems to miss the point somewhat. As there are billions of stars out there, yet only a loose grouping of 16 are currently doing the biz for you.

Me thinks that astrology was all made up for the deception of the gullible....Very much like religion.

Surprisingly eloquent Dr F.

Though Saggitouous was a bit of a let down.

That's a bizarre set of criteria for choosing the President of the U.S.A.

They are inept, but hopefully they won't make too much of a mess of things, but I'm afraid that they might.

Yep. For sure.

Polygamy doesn't explain multiple dads.

Just pointing out that your comparison wasn't sound though.

And as you  continually point out, neither is the bible logical,  consistent or sound.....Just a compilation of  hand-me-down tales and supposition.

Buying a Presidency is more of a metaphorical term, though nonetheless appropriate.

How do connections and names develop without deep pockets?

And your reply somewhat backs up the notion that competency is somewhat irrelevant.

Power corrupts as they say, so perhaps we should always expect what we end up with.

God Save the Queen, hey?

Have you not heard of polygamy?

You're either a Trumpeter  or your not. 

So the opinion of any hard line supporter is anecdotal..

In a fair election it's the always the floating voters that decide.

Though it has to be said that the U.S. Presidential electoral system is far from straightforward and fair.

And let's be honest...Did you expect anything else from a debate involving Trump.

And you're right, Biden didn't really do himself any favours either.

It sort of begs the question...Aren't there any decent, younger, more competent people with  presidential aspirations  in The U.S?

And the answer is  yes, of course.......But obviously, none that can afford to buy a Presidency.

Where is the link between SEXIST, RACIST MEN. and wearing a mask.

And if you cannot breathe, then I would suggest that you have an underlying health condition or perhaps even Covid-19.

I work in the health sector and have to wear a mask everyday, and as yet have not suffocated.

And what as any of this got to do with, pride in a social sub-group?

Capitalism is hierarchical.

Communism is hierarchical.

Anarchy is hierarchical.

You're part of a system whether you like it or not.

How you fit into a system is entirely up to you and your capabilities.

You only think that whilst you can.

Death is easy...Though dying is sometimes tough.

To be successfully immortal you would need to stop physical ageing at specific point.

So at what point would you choose to stop physically ageing.

No....You can keep him.

Thankfully the media is currently nice and quiet on Royal issues.

Prince Harry.....Grandson of a Greek and a German....LOL.

It just all proves a point.

What is a foreigner.

The U.S.A. is a nation of foreigners.....Swedes or Slovenians for example.

The U.K. too.

In fact the U.S.A and the U.K. are as about as un-indigenous and culturally impure as Nations get. 

If you're going to have sex, make sure that you've got a condom.

Why do you expect that "the girl" should be the one that takes responsibility for your sexual urges.

Condoms...No invasive procedures necessary....Buy online if you're to embarrassed to go to the store and always have one in your pocket for that opportune moment.

I would suggest that irresponsible men are perhaps the biggest cause of unwanted pregnancy, and yet the girl is the one that always has to carry the can.... And yet males seem to be the biggest pontificators on abortion issues.

Different time, different place, different America.

It's next year you need to worry about, not 1860.

A few select locals might benefit and the U.S. would get a canal.

Why not just trade more with Panama anyway and not steal a canal.

I would suggest that your interest, really is all about forcibly acquiring a canal.

Is it wise to base your future expectations upon a hope.

You are essentially hoping that a 74 year old self righteous, hypocritical, racist, extreme conservative is somehow going to change for the better....No chance.

In terms of being a figure head for the U.S.A. Donald Trump is undoubtedly the most inept President in living memory, if not of all time.

I once had high hopes for Donald....But I was so wrong.

A hypothetical question, so any hypothetical answer will do.

When is a Native American not a Native American?

It really only depends upon how far you want to keep turning the clock back.