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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Where does money come from?
Interesting question if you think about it.
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@Lemming
Nihilistic materialism is something of a contradiction, as materialism gives meaning to a lot of people, including a great many hypocritical theists.
And existentialism probably describes what most people think without thinking.
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@MisterChris
The Earth was known to be a spheroid long before the U.N. was created.
And observe, and you will be aware of it's rotation.
Not that I think for one minute, that you actually believe that the Earth is flat.
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@bmdrocks21
What is your reasoning for this?
Emotion or Logic.
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@bmdrocks21
I'm not advocating anything.
I'm simply suggesting that certain sub-groups may naturally diminish, as a result of globalisation and lifestyle changes.
I'm not suggesting that this will happen overnight though.
And if so, culture will change accordingly.
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@TheUnderdog
I think what you actually mean is......F**k the locals, U.S.A. knows best.
And I think with the word plurality, you mean, enough to wave a few stars and stripes at the T.V. cameras.
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@bmdrocks21
Within social guidelines, not influenced by religious and emotional overthought, then yes.
If you take the thought and consequent emotion out of the equation for a moment and just regard physiological processes, the number of zygotes involuntarily discarded by women on a daily basis is considerable.
So realistically, why should adding thought and emotion to the equation make any difference?
It might be argued that thought and emotion make us what we are, and I would agree....But thought and emotion does not make us and affect us all the same way.
So abortion is OK for some, and not OK for others and realistically no one is right and no one is wrong.
Similarly, that's why people of the U.S and the U.K for example, will happily support sending troops around the world to kill others in the pursuit of ideology and self righteousness.
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@bmdrocks21
Nowadays certain women think it's cool to have kids when they are either old and past it, or not at all.
So certain sub-cultures are wittingly under-breeding themselves out of contention, as it were.
Homogenization is clearly the way forwards, probably with a future tendency towards a slightly darker skin tone and Asiatic features.
And what we think, will have long since become irrelevant.
Maybe.
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@bmdrocks21
The fusion of gametes etc.
Depends how you choose to look at things.
Some might rightly argue......A new life similar to both parents and not yet separate from, and dependant upon the mother.....Therefore, wholly the mother's responsibility.
And nothing whatsoever to do with a load of pious believers of nonsense....As I said, that's just one way of looking at it....Other options are available.
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@bmdrocks21
Well there's an interesting juxtaposition between old and new in your reply.
And I wouldn't fully agree with your suggestions regarding women, in both a primal and modern context.
Similarly, induced abortion is a fairly recent development, that is judge by a variety of standards both old and new.
Though not so long ago both pregnancy and infant mortality were simply regarded as the facts of life that they were....Dead kid, move on with little thought or tears and have another go.
Have we become more civilised and advanced, or are we just becoming unrealistic softies, with a tendency for some, to pass the buck back to a mythical deity whenever necessary.
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@TheUnderdog
Given that people never fully agree about anything, what are the chances of an invading army being welcomed by 100% of Panamanians.
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@3RU7AL
A past event may or may not have been regarded as criminal.
Judging past events by todays standards is pointless.
There's no going back and changing things.
And if we did go back and change past events, there's a strong chance that neither of us would now exist.
The past is far longer that a couple of hundred of years ago. Or as I suggested are you just being P.C. selective.
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@n8nrgmi
Weapons effect is a scientifically established principle.
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@RoderickSpode
It all comes under the same banner I suppose, and is all an inevitable consequence of humanity.
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@Greyparrot
An automatic weapon maybe....Preferably inside the secure community/prison.
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@bmdrocks21
Sleeping around is basic instinct.
Most people would sleep around given half the chance.
It's just that women get pregnant and men don't, which makes it easy for men to pontificate.
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@Greyparrot
Yep, but would the guard be inside or out, when the mob is thronging at the gates.
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@Tradesecret
Death sustains life and dog eats dog, it's the nature of things....And we like to think that we are noble, but we are all as selectively moral as the next person.
And religion and the bible are what they are, and not everyone agrees with everyone else....Though some people like to regard religion and the bible as more than what they can prove them to be..
Nonetheless, if one bases their morality on the bible, then one must also accepts the selective morality contained therein.
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@Dr.Franklin
What what?
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@Greyparrot
When is a gated community not a prison?
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@TheUnderdog
I'm not sure how you invade a sovereign territory, peacefully.
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@secularmerlin
@RoderickSpode
Horrible things happened in the past for sure, but judging the past by today's standards won't affect the past. At best we learn lessons, which by and large we have already learned anyway.
It seems odd though that we are happy to hold onto the evidence of past atrocities, but feel that we should regard scientific evidence of the past as being inappropriate.
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@Stephen
The biblical mythologies justify everything for some people.
Advanced species hey?
We haven't really left the cave.
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@TheUnderdog
The U.S. would just fuck up Panamanian lives, just like they fucked up Syrian lives and Iraqi lives. All in the greedy pursuit of natural resources, under the bogus banner of liberation.
And when Panamanians come to the U.S. motherland to seek their fortunes. You will put up a wall and tell them to fuck off.
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@ILikePie5
@Dr.Franklin
Selective morality is a tad hypocritical.
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@Dr.Franklin
Exactly.
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@Dr.Franklin
I think that the problem is your tendency to lack explanation.
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@secularmerlin
Similarly, homo-sapiens didn't appear out of thin air. We have acquired DNA and skeletal characteristics from our hominid ancestors.
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@secularmerlin
Yep I know.
My point was:
If "science" differentiates using DNA and skeletal analysis techniques, then presumably similar differentiating factors occur and can be found in homo-sapiens. For example, people that originate from East Asia and people that originate from Central Africa are distinctly different in appearance, so there must be an underlying DNA and skeletal variation...... Ergo "scientific racism".
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@Dr.Franklin
What for no reason?
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@Dr.Franklin
Maybe you weren't being sarcastic.
If so I will retract my previous statements.
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@TheUnderdog
If every new building was fitted with solar panels, then that would be a real boost for the Chinese economy, and also very good idea...or vice versa.
And I think that the long term problems of nuclear power production in terms of decommissioning, outweigh the short term benefits.
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@Dr.Franklin
The insular nature of the medium, prevents one from being overwhelmed or frustrated....It's just remains fun to antagonise right wingers.
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@Dr.Franklin
There's a big difference between interest and hiding in the backwoods with your assault rifle and your banjo.
You can't hide from them there viruses though, nor gun the f**kers down.
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@Dr.Franklin
Everything is nature based....Even supernatural gods like Abrahamic ones are a natural product of the human imagination.
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@secularmerlin
Can we not use the same criteria to differentiate between existent hominids.
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@bmdrocks21
Yep. I think that for some people, that is an accurate assessment.
Though I would also say that it is not fair to tar everyone with the same brush.
I would also suggest that other sectors of American society are also inclined to "not assimilate".
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@bmdrocks21
British and Irish culture is the result of thousands of years of fighting....Typically we tend to focus on the more recent bits....A bit like how some like to continually focus upon one particular example of slavery....A drawback of memory I suppose.
I personally think that it is better to focus on now and the future...... Rather than keep dwelling in the past and digging up old resentments, as all that this achieves, is to reinforce prejudices and notions of difference.
Though I think that it is fair to say, that some people enjoy being antagonists.
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@secularmerlin
Just out of interest.
What are the determining factors, that allow us to differentiate between Us and an extinct hominid?
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@3RU7AL
In your own home maybe.
There's redecorating and then there's vandalism.
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@lady3keys
Yep. I agree with you....When it comes to brain function I think there is still a lot of guesswork/theory rather than definitive facts. So I only suggest that choice allows us a certain level of free will.
The A.I. issue ( I prefer the phrase Alternative Intelligence) is interesting. Is consciousness more than awareness through perception and are humans not organic machines with inherent systems, that have evolved higher levels of function through programming. I think that the comparisons with technological development are very similar and let's not forget that in terms of evolution A.I. is in it's early stages of development......How many hundreds of thousands of years has it taken organic intelligence to get this far?....I think that it is a tad arrogant of us to think that A.I. will not achieve as we have and perhaps even surpass the limits of our physiological capabilities.
I'm still not convinced by the wine example, especially when you introduce the word "force", which suggests a bowing to subliminal social pressure....You will nonetheless not erase zifandel from your memory and replace it with rose....You will simply modify how you utilise your acquired data base in certain situations.
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@Greyparrot
Anarchy will quickly revert to hierarchically factionalism....Which is in fact what we might regard as popular government, though with a greater emphasis on blood and guts.
Hierarchy is physiological disposition and socialism is the product of philosophical dreamers.
And Trump and Biden are exactly the same but also somewhat different.....Such is the conundrum.
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@Greyparrot
Venezuela is a bit of a mess......A recent failed attempt at pseudo-socialism.....Nonetheless Venezuela like everywhere else relies upon a system of social hierarchy, so like all nominally socialist states, Venezuela is not truly socialist.
I struggle to come up with a nation that is anywhere close to being truly socialist.
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