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The main purpose of the human life is to be happy
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@ebuc
Population is population and if population becomes unsustainable then it will....  I would agree that our inability to override instinct and work collectively to limit population, does seem somewhat contrary to our assumed advanced levels of intelligence (stupid)....Though I would suggest that as the demands of technological/data, evolution/development become ever greater, then the demand on humanity to produce innovators becomes greater also....Out of a million people, how many possess the intellectual acuity necessary to move material/data development forwards?......Perhaps most of us are here simply to service the needs of the few, and the need for the the few.....That is to say, that most of us are expendable.

Maybe one day there will be only one intelligence that knows what is required, and perhaps that intelligence will be referred to as GOD.
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RELIGION POLL #1: Resurrection
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@MisterChris
A supernatural tale very much in keeping with typical mythology based hypotheses.
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Why do you support Israel?
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@Dr.Franklin
Yep it's true.

Same people, different club, same basic hypothesis but differing styles of embellishment.

Unless you are a Martian of course, displaying alternative physiology.....And you know something that we humans don't know.
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Browsers
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@Dr.Franklin
Exactly.
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The main purpose of the human life is to be happy
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@ebuc
A. I agree.

B. The truth of material existence/creation.

C. I agree.



The truth of human existence might be as an integral part of a universal system's progression. So with reference to Point C. We may well eventually become redundant, having exceeded our ability to influence material evolution further...Human life will perish on Earth when human life is no longer sustainable on Earth and the jury is also out on whether we will ever leave this solar system and colonise elsewhere.


So is happiness the main purpose of human life?.....I doubt it.
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@ebuc
Exactly....Until the truth is found the Jury's out.
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Browsers
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@Dr.Franklin
Babbling common sense... Rather than mono-syllabic, non-explanatory opinions.
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Why do you support Israel?
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@Dr.Franklin
Not exactly the same...But basically the same.
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Why do you support Israel?
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@triangle.128k
And clearly there is a right side and a wrong side.
Yep.  The right side is your side and the wrong side is the other, and they other guy thinks exactly the same.

And Russia or China will lean any way that suits.

Though for the reasons that you have given, the U.S. cannot afford to take it's eye of the Israeli ball for a minute....Therefore withdrawing is totally out of the question

Fedora tipping.
See Dr Franklin.
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The main purpose of the human life is to be happy
Life might be either pointless or purposeful.....Because of either purpose or chance.....Jury's still out.


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did God put medicen in plants for all disease
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@crossed
All medicines are derived from the universe, that is to say, nature.

Everything that occurs, occurs because it could.

Still doesn't validate the god hypothesis though.

God still remains firmly hypothetical.
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The universe is a simulation, therefore God exists...
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@ebuc
So in laymen's terms, what does this mean in relation relation to the simulation hypothesis?
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Determinism vs Free Will
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@Crocodile
A child has the free will to run away.
But do they really?
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Which system of economics offers unfettered freedom for personal gain?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Is it possible to go all the way to infinity?


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Why do you support Israel?
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@triangle.128k
@Dr.Franklin
And Palestinians and Israelis are essentially the same people, but  just in a different religious club.

Similarly Judaism, Christianity and Islam are also essentially the same, just the different clubs.

Exactly the same thing as the Patriots, the Dolphins and the Jets....But football rather than religion.

Though I'm sure that to some people football is a religion.


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@triangle.128k
Money and corruption, and a misguided sense of loyalty perhaps..




Oh!...And regional politics of course.....If the U.S. doesn't support Israel, then Russia or China will be more than happy to step into the U.S's shoes.
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@Dr.Franklin
no you dont-not even close.
Without punctuation.

And with hyphenation.

Is this an explanation?

Or a ridiculous situation?
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Crocism
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@PressF4Respect
Sounds about right.
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confederate statues shouldn't be honored
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@Alec
You'll have to blow up that mountain.
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Crocism
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@Crocodile
The problem with currency.

If we are all equal, then who has the power to allocate rewards?

Extreme socialism always fails because people are just not equal...We rely upon natural hierarchy to bring  order to society.

Currency or no currency, there will still be people with their begging bowls and others dishing out the rewards.

It's perhaps better to have currency, rather of the gun.
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100th topic here: Is Taiwan really a nation now?
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@BearMan
Yep. I get what you're saying.

Though we can create boundaries and differences that can be physically implemented, which therefore become realities....That is the human condition....The conversion of imagination into reality.
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Trump Impeachment Discussion
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Agreed.
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Why Is Christianity #1?
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@Dr.Franklin
LOL.

People only expand if they eat too much.
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@Dr.Franklin
I switch my laptop on and it works just fine....Nothing else required.

A niche provider is just a niche provider just trying to sell you niche provision.

And if you don't understand the word niche, use your browser and check out the definition and you will probably get exactly the same result as I would.
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If left wing economics are bad, why are blue states the economic powerhouses?
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@Dr.Franklin
Abortion is big because of no consequence life.
Well, I suppose that's a reasonably logical philosophy, though somewhat nihilistic.
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@Dr.Franklin
@Nemiroff
What the hell would a consequence free life be?.......Sort of death really.

And I would suggest that all States are both Blue and Red, but to varying degrees.

Or is it a Red consequence that individual lives are of no consequence?.....If so, why the big abortion thing?
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@Dr.Franklin
The internet is  what the name implies and  also is what it has become.... And an assumption that a niche provider can offer a better service is typical of the human desire to be  special or be seen to be special.

Mines an "Artisan Beer" please.
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The study of philosophy can never yield concrete answers
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@TheRealNihilist
Apologies.

I was feeling a bit obscure.

Though the question is presented in such a way .
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Trump Impeachment Discussion
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@fauxlaw
I guess your caught between a rock and a hard place then....Having to decide which one is the least perverse, corrupt and stupid.

Why, out of a population of 327million people does the U.S. struggle to find a decent Presidential candidate. Perhaps there just isn't such a thing, given what it takes to become a presidential candidate, that is to say, rather a lot of money...Some might say dodgy money, though I wouldn't begin to presume.

And why do the American people keep voting for them.....I think that it's what's referred to as outsheeping the sheep.....Baaaah.....Same here in the U.K....Same the world over.

People is as people do.
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Why Is Christianity #1?
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@Dr.Franklin
Not true.

Why would the spread of Christianity  from the "Holy Land" only head northwards. The Coptic Christians of Egypt and North Africa were well established by the 2nd century.
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Why Is Christianity #1?
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@Dr.Franklin
As I stated, Europe is simply a delineated area of a map.  Christianity and  associated similar religions spread variously with people, primarily from another region otherwise delineated as the Arabian Peninsula of Asia.  At the same time other well established religious philosophies dominated elsewhere. Hence 66% Non-Christian.

Perhaps Europeans just made better sailors.
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100th topic here: Is Taiwan really a nation now?
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@User_2006
Hmmmm.

I think that you didn't quite understand the message.
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The universe is a simulation, therefore God exists...
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@Nemiroff
It's important to remember that omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence are  only assumed qualities of an assumed god.


Nonetheless....If the universe is a simulation, what is it a simulation of?

Surely it can only be a simulation of a universe.....Therefore you might just as well have the non-simulated version....Which would save all the faff of creating one  universe and then simulating another....

Though, if you've got an infinite amount of time on your hands, then what do you do?....

Variety is the spice of eternal existence as gods probably say.


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@BearMan
An island is an island and therefore self contained.

What the discussion is actually about. is assumed human difference relative to a global location.

It would be better if people considered human isolation relative to universal location.

But if you don't teach your kids common sense, they will more than likely grow up believing in non-sense.

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The study of philosophy can never yield concrete answers
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@TheRealNihilist
If you want a concrete solution, then add four parts aggregate to two parts sand and one  part cement and then combine thoroughly with water.

N.B. Always wear safety equipment when mixing concrete...It is especially important, not to inhale cement dust.


This is my concrete philosophy.

Does this yield for you?
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Would a "Utopian" atheist nation work in the U.S.?
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@ludofl3x
Communism, atheism and theism are all concepts that define the same thing...The human ability to to manipulate and utilise data inputs...

The variability of output is only to be expected, especially, when one considers the factors that have influenced human social development.

Utopia is yet another, imaginary concept.


Sleep, wake, eat, work (a metaphor for hunter gathering), eat, procreate, sleep, survive for as long as possible and eventually die......Communism, atheism, theism, utopia is all stuff we consider when we have nothing else that requires consideration.....Though that is not to undermine what may or may not be the purpose of an evolutionary process and the development of human society therein. 

Though without theism there would be no atheism and vice versa....but there are.
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@skittlez09
Is ringing your bells a metaphor for masturbation?... Ergo rapture is ejaculation.
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@TheUnderdog
Same old s**t then.
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the end of morality and civility
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@PressF4Respect
Based on your definition of insanity, then just about everyone on dart is insane.
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Why Is Christianity #1?
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@Dr.Franklin
Nope...bang on topic.

Though more than one syllable.... so perhaps beyond comprehension.
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This website is proof that dictatorship can be benevolent if it's done with respect to the populace.
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@PressF4Respect
Donald and Boris just don't have the same chemistry as George and Tony did.

Though Donald blows hot and cold with his international bromances....It looked like he and Emmanuel were really getting it on at one time....

He even had  brief flings with Kim and Xi....But to be honest they were never going to last, were they?
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@Dr.Franklin
Well....People spread across the world and Europe became Europe when a decision was reached to refer to a particular area of the Earth's surface as Europe and though the boundaries of Europe may have varied slightly over time, I would suggest that it never extended across the entire planet.... Certain popular religious mythologies emanated from a region outside of Europe and were variously adopted and adapted as the basis of or as a part of  social systems and social governance.  The successful spread of what became European people and their adopted religions and social culture is a great deal more to do with the ingenuity of the people than it is to do with their adopted religions...The spread of European culture and adopted religions was successful, relative to the success of Europeans. Just as the success of other similar cultures and religions was relative to the success of other  people who had adopted  modified versions of the same basic tenet. Islam for instance. 

So, the spread, popularity and therefore assumed success of any culture and it's adopted religion is still no more than what it has become, and whilst  33% of the Earths population has reputedly adopted Christianity as a basic social tenet, Christianity has nonetheless not successfully spread to the other 66%....Though how such statistics are reached is open to question, I would suggest that 33%/66% would not necessarily be reflected in a popular census.

And I would reiterate the point that the future success of any religion will be based upon birth rate rather than the religion itself.

And of course, none of the above can actually validate the original mythological basis of any popular or less popular religious creation hypothesis.








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@PressF4Respect
George Dudya's buddy was a guy called Tony Blair....Remember him?
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@Nemiroff
I would suggest that debt is relative more so to the distribution of wealth rather than the creation of wealth.

Though aside from that... When I see debates such as this, I always think that it begs the question....Are the United States of America, really United.

It's the same here in the U.K......People tend to think it's better to be a part of something smaller.....Until such times, when they realise it's safer to be a part of something bigger, of course.
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@ethang5
Will you fix it by voting for a numpty that thinks suggesting to a World audience that the consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus problem, is what it takes to be a President. 

Yep you probably will.

Though on reflection and in comparison to a lot of his forebears. he hasn't made any notable World affecting cock-up decisions.

i suppose that we should  be grateful for Melania and also that he doesn't have a sister like Kim Yo-jong.

As they say....Behind every good man.
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@PressF4Respect
I'm grateful that you didn't compare me to George Dubya's shoulder to shoulder buddy.......Or should I say lickarse.

I do feel that our participation in the 2nd Iraq conflict was a tad dictated.
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@RationalMadman
A constitutional monarchy may or may not be a benevolent dictatorship....In fact all governmental systems require a level of imposed authority, otherwise they would fail to be governmental. 

Usually we do not associate dictatorship with benevolence....I would suggest that your use of terminology is atypical
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Which system of economics offers unfettered freedom for personal gain?
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@fauxlaw
Personal gain is more likely to be fettered by the person rather than the system.
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@PressF4Respect
O.K....I'll run with Constitutional Monarchy......But with a reasonably liberal  and democratic administration.

How's that for British diplomacy?
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@RationalMadman
If you mean that the purpose of everything including life is part of greater and ongoing universal purpose then I  fully accept that as a valid hypothesis....It's what I would refer to as material evolution rather than change....Obviously the organic/living species part of the sequence is the most important bit as far as we are concerned.
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