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And Mr Ethan has first hand evidence....Wow....Perhaps his input into the time traveller thread would be enlightening.

As Mr Ethan's time traveller pontifications  are breath-taking.

Not that one would expect republished transcriptions to not display some level of consistency....It would be an object defeating exercise otherwise....wouldn't it?

Thanks.

It's an issue that I have never taken an interest in, so therefore find it somewhat baffling....I think I will do a bit more reading on the subject.

Based upon that analysis do you agree then that national debt  perhaps remains  more of a  bureaucratic concept, rather that being an actual  monetary reality.

Nonetheless, when a government announces that is going to increase borrowing, who what or where does it borrow from?....Considering that most nations have a national debt,  and therefore, presumably nothing to lend.

Martians perhaps.

That's another one of those words that attempts to give credibility to the tale....Because something is a "manuscript" it's undoubtedly true then.

It's the credibility of the data that is in question, rather than the medium it is written upon or the number of times it has been rewritten. 

Yep, will be another fun packed and amusing 4 years.

And apologies, I didn't realise you were deaf......If you could hear some of the dumb ass stuff that Donald comes out with you would be in stitches also.

I will put my hand up and say that I do not understand macro economics....Though it does seem that debt is something of an irrelevance at this level anyway.

Perhaps you can explain who actually is indebted to who......Especially as virtually all nations have a national debt.

Well, I would suggest that statistics don't really address the issue....And who does or doesn't legally own a gun is irrelevant....And there is also not necessarily an exclusive link between guns and homicide.

What one can or cannot do with a gun is also largely irrelevant to the issue....Guns were nonetheless designed as remote and effective killing devices.

What your statistics do tell us, is that a relatively liberal society is inevitably also an unequal society, where crime is seen as a means to an end, and where the gun is seen as an effective and essential tool of the trade.

Interestingly, I looked for  some definitive and reasonably accurate statistics relating to both legal and illegal guns in the U.S....and couldn't find any....In fact the general conclusion seems to be that no one actually knows.....Also, the definition of what constitutes the difference between legal and illegal is a tad woolly to say the least.

Conditioning people to believe something, does not constitute proof of something and neither does it validate something...It just makes people formulate data sequences and responses in a particular way.....A bit like North Korean behaviour for example.

It would make no difference if humanity was 99% theist...This would still not prove the currently unprovable....All that this would prove, would be that 99% of humanity had been conditioned to accept theism as a creation hypothesis.

Nonetheless, all creation hypotheses are valid until they are either unequivocally proved or unequivocally rejected.....So no bias, only scepticism and open mindedness.....I would suggest that ardent theists are the ones that tend to become entrenched and biased.

And of course everyone always blames everyone else and everyone is always righteous.

So where would you prefer to live right now....The U.S.A. or China

I would suggest that libertarianism is a whole lot better than authoritarianism.

So simply and logically explain how your particular uncaused GOD is a possibility.

In fact GOD is just an utterance, representative of an imagination or an hypothesis relating to an imagination of something....So explain something from nothing and thereby explain your particular GOD.

A 2000 year old mythology does not explain this phenomenon....It is simply the basis of one particular ongoing hypothesis.

We  grew and we were conditioned and we became stagnant and biased....It's generally the nature of the machine and it's onboard computer.

You and I are essentially the same...Just slightly different programming, resulting in slightly different biased data sequences, that's all.

What is a unit of time?

If you cannot breathe underwater then you cannot breathe under water...But that was neither the issue nor the point....And professional underwater swimmers generally tend to wear breathing apparatus anyway...And the focus has somewhat shifted from the psychological trauma of wearing a mask to the problems that underwater swimmers face.

I was merely suggesting that what isn't currently the social norm will eventually become the accepted social norm....A bit like the new ignorance that has become the new norm associated with the evolution of mobile devices.

Well O.K...Simply as a hypothetical fantasy situation....Because the past is billions of years if not infinite...What one would do would be relevant to the moment and environment one found oneself in....As a "sudden transportation" is not suggestive of a great deal of choice in the matter.

When did Dr Franklin ever say so much?.....They are usually a one syllable person.

And scripture writers probably just recorded, embellish and recounted tales....The word "scripture" though latterly attributed a sort of spiritual quality, nonetheless simply means writings.

Resurrection in order of probability, most likely first:

1. Mythological fantasy.

2. An alien beamed up into a spacecraft.

3. A god's son ascending to heaven on a cloud.

Where or what do you think the past might be?

Humans are a problem because guns are a problem because humans are a problem....So to alleviate these associated problems, which is the most reasonable solution ....Get rid of humans or get rid of guns?

And if you were able to rid society of all the problems that cause crime....Do you think that humans would then happily give up their guns?....Nope ....They would just find another excuse not to....Because social disparity and associated crime is not the real issue.

In short, the real issue is the power trip.

They also expect you to swim with trunks/shorts on....Not being naked has become the accepted norm.....So why wouldn't wearing  a mask become the accepted norm too?

It's just another cover up item.

Chemical reactions are chemical reactions....Ask a chemist to explain fully.

The nature of all organic structures dictates that all Plants contain chemical compounds, some of which may have a medicinal benefit.....This neither proves nor disproves a GOD hypothesis.

Eat the wrong plant or fungi and it will kill you, was this also an act of GOD?

An uncaused GOD is an impossibility, so therefore false within the context of an uncaused GOD

An ongoing GOD principle is an ongoing possibility, but this just conveniently allows us to avoid the impossible.....Just as theists such as Mr Ethan always conveniently don't feel the need to define an imaginary GOD.

Ans something that is programmed is therefore not random, no matter how random it might appear to be.

And by our very nature we are all materialists.

You only say that though, because you're a biased righty and resent what you consider to be a biased lefty....And biased lefties think the same of the righties....When in fact you are all the same, barring a few genetic tweeks.

And the U.S. currently has a $26trillion national debt, is that economically powerful?.....To be honest I wouldn't know.....Though if I was in debt I wouldn't feel economically powerful.

Atheists don't believe.....That's the whole point of atheism.

An Atheist would be as happy as the next person to be able to know the real truth.

Multifarious theists believe that they already know the truth, but unfortunately none has ever been able to prove it.

So make an atheists day and prove that your particular GOD hypothesis or any GOD hypothesis for that matter, is wholly accurate.

Success and wealth  breeds jealousy and contempt.

Option 1 is comedic.

Option 2 is conspiratorial but unrealistic.

Option 3 is kind of chavvy.

Nothing particularly extreme stands out....So what is the purpose of the exercise?

Some pussies love a cockortwo.

1. Extinction might not be good for people but would perhaps be good for the planet, though I think that evolutionary purpose doesn't allow for human extinction just yet.

2. Communism is a myth, it's just different people doing the same thing in different ways. Social distancing or not is just common sense or not.

3. Wearing a mask makes you look like a nurse or the Lone Ranger....So be cool...Be the Lone Ranger....And get yourself a horse and call it Tonto.

In fact, wearing a mask and social distancing is a metaphor for the Lone Ranger, or vice versa.

1.  As a result of an ongoing inter-Earthling dispute, a group of light skinned guys flew to the Earths Moon and kicked dust about. 

2.  Previously, a guy named Adolf who was miffed by by the negative outcome of a fighting competition, decided therefore to have another go...And lost again...And so gave up big time.

3.   Some time before that, a group of religious outcasts and ne'er-do-wells sailed across the Atlantic Ocean and partook in a succession of fighting competitions....Eventually establishing an transglobal morally self-righteous fighting organisation, though thankfully their involvement in Adolph's second fighting competition (see above) resulted in Adolph's second defeat. 

4. Interestingly, Adolph's second fighting competition  brought about the temporary cooperation of the previously mentioned  inter-Earthling rivals (see above). Nonetheless, cooperation was short lived, as once the competition was over they quickly reaffirmed their rivalry, resulting in the implementation of a series of new strategy games, such as political ideology, global nuclear war and  space flying (see above).

5. Sporadic short lived bursts of cooperation and admiration between the aforementioned rivals, nonetheless encouraged another go at spaceflight, resulting in variously skin-toned guys and gals (all other pseudo-genders welcome) whizzing around the Earth at great speed, much to the occasional wonderment of delighted onlookers.

The weather forecasters predicted rain all day yesterday, and it was dry all day.....And this morning it's raining....Typical Welsh weather.....Hopefully it will dry up for cycling later.

I cycled across the southern U.S. coast to coast a couple of years ago and boy was it hot. It only rained once in 38 days and that was on the day that we rode to Phoenix Arizona.

And boy did it rain.

As I stated genetics influence everything pertaining to the function of organic structures.

I am predicting a typical Saturday, relative to unpredictable weather conditions.

And as hell is at best a metaphor, how does one let it "use" (loose perhaps)?......Metaphorically I suppose.

I would suggest that your primary obligations should be to yourself and  to those that closely concern you.

Wearing a mask and social distancing is as beneficial to you as it is to anyone else.

If you don't give "a shit" about others then that is just downright anti-social and therefore why should others give "a shit" about you.

Maybe you are working on a somewhat deluded assumption of invincibility.

Genetics dictate everything about an individual.

Though intelligence is far from exclusive and behaviour is just as much to do with social conditioning as it is to do with genetics.

Similarly, variations in academic achievement  are just as likely to be resultant of social disparities.

Jesus of the biblical mythology, could easily have been based upon a real person.

Though it's very unlikely that a real Jesus character  was resurrected in the mythological biblical sense.

The Biblical story is obviously a mythology, because the supernatural embellishments lack logical/common sense.

Well yes, especially with genes that dictate physical appearance....Though Britishness is actually defined by a very wide gene pool... Even two similar looking "White" Britain's might display a very diverse genetic ancestry...Not unsurprising considering the historical events that shaped Britishness.

In most cases "hate" is an inappropriate word.

In most cases the word resent is probably more appropriate.

Jealousy, or uncertainty relative to change or difference, are often  the causes of resentment.

I would suggest that hatred is a more profound psychological disturbance, and therefore manifestly more irrational.

There will be genetic differences between everyone, except (in 99.9% of incidences) identical twins....Genetic differences that define physical appearance are perceivably obvious....Whereas the genes that dictate that one develops cancer latter on in life for example, take longer to manifest.

So wherefrom "extra-terrestrial viri"?.....Same old question....Something  from nothing......Pre-cubo-octahedron.

Though that is not to say that the establishment of life on Earth was not from an extra-terrestrial source....All hypotheses currently valid.

What good is applying sanctions to the unsactionable?

Yep...Give or take a few years it was in the most part, Europeans slaughtering Europeans, based upon the notion of an assumed or an acquired difference.....Same old shit Eugene.

Do you not think that a modern stand up comics material is different to what would have made us laugh 40 years ago....Though I would suggest that this reflects a general change in social expectation. 

I would further suggest that what we might regard as timeless humour, is perhaps as much to do with nostalgia as it is to do with humour.....In so much as it makes us smile rather than makes us laugh.

Are you monosyllabic on purpose?

PURPOSE.....You've exceeded expectations.

One assumes that we all do what we do for an individual reason or purpose.

Yep...On the face of it seems like a reasonable equation.

Nope....That's because of your own ego based mind games.

Sometimes there are rare flashes of clarity.

Nonetheless, your hypothesis (if it is seriously meant ) starts after the beginning.....Which just won't do.

And as you can see I am still undecided....Troll, Nutcase or Genius?

Well, the term African American is used, and I will go out on a limb here and suggest that African Americans will often choose to be regarded as such when it's suits a cause.

Historical events seem to have led us to a situation whereby Racism is exclusively regarded as light skin toned of Northern European origin person, oppressing dark skin toned person who is a descendant of forced migration from Africa....And as you rightly pointed out,  racism in reality is never and has never been this exclusive.

And let's be honest...Why would we keep continually digging up the past, if there wasn't some sort of gain to be made from it.

Repatriations, and yes, who pays who for what.....Well the present day reality is that it's the aforementioned light skinned guy, handing over cash the aforementioned darker skinned guy simply because they have a perceivable difference in skin tone that can be related to locations of now distant ancestral origin.....In other words mutual racism for cash.

Why people are afraid of guns , is because when you have a gun pointed at you, the holder's mental state alters and their reasoning diminishes....And of course ultimately if the trigger is pulled it's probably not going to be good news.

The gun is an inanimate object and not to be feared unless it is in the hands of a predictable human being, such as yourself or even a democrat.... There is no special difference between you and a democrat, other than a dumb ideas that you have in your heads.

Humour has evolved.

Yep. I can actually run with a lot of that, though minus some of the human embellishments and expectations of continued existence in some sort of human form.

I see GOD as the ultimate  accumulation of intelligence, and we are certainly a part of that process....GOD the ultimate knowledge to recreate and perpetuate the universal sequence.

Though I doubt that the ongoing accumulation of knowledge will always be human in origin.... We have had thousands of years to accumulate our intelligence, whereas alternative intelligence gatherers have only had a few decades.....Nonetheless, you could say that in this respect we are already a  part of GOD.

Race is based upon perceivable difference,  and also also upon regional separation  and conditioned data.

If we were visited by aliens, they would initially regard us as one species....But upon closer inspection they would inevitably categorise us based upon certain criteria...notably, perceivably difference.

And I expect that aliens would still have some sort of god principle....Though it might be green and have six legs.

Typically, you have already humanised the god principle.

Maybe GOD is the ultimate accumulation of knowledge which will inevitably result in only one determined purpose....Creation or re-creation.

So fully explain something from nothing ( in a language that idiots like me can comprehend), without starting after the beginning.

Your personal hypothesis is what it is and has probably perplexed people for the last thirty years.

And cosmic trinities abound, but are always based upon something.

Sorry...I honestly didn't understand that previous post (#67)....Maybe it was hastily put together.