zedvictor4

When sport becomes a business, it ceases to be a genuine sport.

Gods.

Alienation by non-alignment....bad move.

There are other big players ready to jump into The U.S's shoes.

You definitely need to keep those Turks on side.

P.M.A. is good.

So if that includes prayer then.

Praying is good too.

Yep.

Dating "marketplace" sums it up.

Marketability obviously involves sentimentally bullshitting and window dressing.

Though the underlying instinctive realities nonetheless stay the same.

Not sure about the "ruthless wall" analogy..... Walls tend to be inert.....Is it the presence of the wall that's ruthless?

4224T.

Ok.

So I won't argue against those sentiments.

But I think that is how most ordinary people try to behave, within the constraints applied to them by everyday social pressures.

I would suggest that whether or not one is a theist makes very little difference.

I would also suggest that professing Christianity is no guarantee of a persons character.

Also, given the nature of World theism, Christianity by itself becomes unavoidably divisive. 

So it would clearly be far better to teach our children the above sentiments within an atheist context.

Refugees are refugees and you cannot blame them for being angry, considering how we fucked up their lives for them.

And neither can we blame the Turks, considering how we fucked up their security.

I never mentioned hypothetical actuality.....You just made that one up..... Assumed actuality should be easy enough to understand though.

Zionism...I thought we'd moved on from there. Nonetheless Zionism is what it is and was therefore apt.

And we are all selectively moral.....It's a fact of life.

Hopefully I can continue to live a liberal life. There are probably billions of people around the world that wish for the same.

StupZedpidity...Nope to many P's.

Is Zedipitydoodaa to liberal and therefore too frivolous?

Bankruptcy is a point at which the system is allowed to break down.

When we have to admit that realistically, money is irrelevant and that the system is flawed.

All politicians and wannabe politicians, wannabe authoritarian. it's the name of the game.

And bankruptcy is the point at which we admit that the system has become unworkable.

What's happening Johnny?

No but yeah but!

Was he just or was he an asshole?

Or are you saying that he was a just asshole?

What is a bad sports team or individual?

Better to take part, rather than sit about pontificating hey?

So:

What do you think that any of the above data output actually means in a presumably realistic context?

In other words, what are you on about?

The general term is.

So why are Semite children lowlife?

Nope, no hate, only preferred entertainers perhaps.

Typically. All started by the U.S. and their Middle Eastern meddling's. (Ok, so the U.K's lick arse government has to stand shoulder to shoulder.)

And Turkey is overburdened with refugees, so as the problem is effectively the U.S's, wouldn't it be right and proper to set up refugee camps somewhere in the South Eastern U.S.

Not In My Back Yard, hey?

LOL.

What is an actual deity?

Concepts are concepts and the ability to conceptualise should be defended. Freedom of thought and all that.

A fact of life is just that. Both hypothetical and assumed actuality are facts of life. They must be, otherwise we wouldn't have been discussing them for several days.

Nope, no one mentioned the sky.

"Rare characteristics". Et tu Brute.

Hey! Give me a burning fact then Ethang5. The best digging dodger on debateart.

And "StupZedpidity"  needs a bit more work.

How about Zedipitydoodaa.

Just for the record:

Semite is a general term for people who speak a Semitic language, which includes both Jews and Arabs. 

And as I stated previously, in a separate thread perhaps.  I have no political allegiances.

I regard politicians and political debate for their entertainment value. 

So, Donny marches for life and the U.S drones another Semite. Isn't that a tad hypocritical.

You're a person of few words.

But you will need a few more to substantiate your claim of 100% correctness.

LOL.

Hypothesis is just that.

As is your god.

So neither I nor you can show a hypothetical god.

Therefore we have conclusively shown that a real god cannot be shown either..

Lets call it the Thangvictor Razor.

Hey Orange Guy you march for life.

And rest easy.

We'll just drone a few more A-rabs.

It was the clever that made all the technology. 

And the enjoyment argument could be regarded as a tad shallow.

Enjoyment often tends to be a short lived fix for boredom.

Pink Floyd...Money....Great song.

Well it might be within a socio-conceptual context but you could say that about a lot of things and it's unlikely that anything is ever 100% correct.

Nonetheless, realistically sentimental bullshit.

Ok. So the interface between concept and realism is a tad blurry, in so much, as when is a concept not real?

I know.

How taxes should work is simple stuff.

Understanding the various ways of avoiding tax is what you need to get your head around.

Hence professional accountants.

Such is the case in the U.K.

I'm not sure if the U.S is the same.

And the dodgy Orange Guy will march if he thinks it's worth it.

And just like the Orange guy we're all selectively moral when push comes to shove.

Sentimental bullshit though.

Stick a urinal on a plinth and call it fountain.

Was Marcel being serious or literally taking the piss?

Hey, but he convinced people that it had value. Which as you suggested, is what it's all about.

If you can convince the gullible it's art, then they will happily part with their money. 

Money, that's what really makes society tick.

Fuck art.

What is an actual deity?

Can you show me one?

If the cap fits as they say.

Nonetheless:

What's the point of having loads of excess stuff, including money, that you don't necessarily need or use. When there are fellow human beings that could make good use of your excesses?

Have a go at giving me a pragmatic answer to this question. Rather than just the same old us and them rhetoric.

Route 99.

Nice one.

"People are and sin is or isn't depending upon how the individual has been conditioned and therefore predictably reacts.

And God fornicated with an unmarried women and people model themselves upon God's image or vice versa".....St Me the Fantastic.

We have hot cross buns because a bloke named Jesus might have existed once upon a time a couple of thousand years ago.

Similarly, that's why we stuff ourselves senseless in December.

Religion hey! 

It's all food and drink based really.

Perhaps a war on greed would be more pertinent.

Is that one, one or two syllables?

An amazing one syllable poem.

is it Japanese.

LOL.

Nope, the phrase fact of life (something that often happens and cannot be avoided), not facts of life.....Look it up.

Perhaps not a widely used phrase in the U.S.

Read it again.....Politicians answer.

Try this one:

Is it possible to believe in a god and not bother about all the associated ritual. Not going to Church and saying prayers and singing hymns for example.

And honestly, I never attend church weddings, funerals or baptisms. It would be a tad hypocritical.

Unfortunately I didn't have any say in my own baptism. An odd affair, seeing has how my Dad was a devout atheist and my Mum was a rather lapsed Christian.....Such was tradition 60 years ago I suppose.

And I didn't vote for Boris or anyone else for that matter (another story).

I just enjoy Boris's and the Orange Guy's personalities.

They're both very entertaining. As is politics generally.

 You missed the point completely.

The sequence that I briefly explained is the process of transmitting ideas through language.

I was questioning where the responsibility lies for how received data is interpreted. 

Is it the responsibility of the sender or of the receiver.

A. The current World population is approximately 7.6 billion.

B. It would mean that we would not breed billions of animals, rather than save billions of animals lives.

C. The planet will save itself..... What you are worried about is saving yourself and humankind.

D. "If we can force a huge amount of pain etc"...…..What has this got to do with veganism and who is doing the forcing?

E. A healthy diet is only one aspect of healthy living. Veganism is not a panacea for the sustainability of both the individual and humanity.

F. Meat has a quite bland taste.  We tend to add the flavour with mostly vegetable derived substances and a substantial amount of salt of course.

With the greatest of respect, the final 22 words of your last post were a tad ridiculous.

Perhaps you could explain in greater detail, the rationale that supports these comments.

And such beautiful non-sense.

The juxtaposition of sound and sense.

Nice one.

It's so easy to wind you up....Just mention the Orange Guy.

I love the Orange Guy.

He's far more entertaining than Boring Obama or Haughty Hilary.

That's why I love Boris the Buffoon too.

So:

Why the need for religious ritual and eulogy?...You went off at a tangent again and avoided the question again.

And yep I agree. Church weddings, funerals and baptisms....pointless ritual and eulogy.....So why?

In short:

Data is formulated and then projected as sound waves, the sound is detected by an aural sensor, converted back into data and is interpreted as the receiver chooses.

So who is being stupid. Is it the sender or the receiver?

Space and dimension is cube and time is.

Whether or not you are a grand master at chess could easily be proven.

And you're confusing the phrase "fact of life" with the word fact.

So why is there a need for religious ritual and eulogy?

Now, if you weren't quite so irritable you would be on "board" and make a pertinent case for these practices.

Rather than just giving a somewhat abstract and mildly abusive response.

"I know Americans etc".....Do you think that the Orange Guy is one of these?

@RationalMadman

Exactly.

As I said the God and Satan principles are interchangeable, but nonetheless opposed.

I was referring to the principles and not to the hypothetical deities and their mythical tests.

Have you ever looked up the definition of the word belief?

You will probably find that it defines a lot more than you think it does....You work it out.

Second....All deities are at best hypothetical and that's a fact of life.