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@billbatard
Goy?
Didn't Woody Allen have a penchant for adoptees?
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@RationalMadman
@Barney
Some of you guys take this stuff far too seriously.
Have you nothing better to be getting on with?
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@billbatard
Drink and the Sex pistols Bill.
Though as a rule, people who assume that they are mentally ill, generally are not.
Probably just the results of general self abuse. (Not meant in the euphemistic sense)
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@janesix
@Mopac
How do you know that what you feel is God if you don't know what God looks like?
Chakras, God, aren't they both simply internal construct rather than external reality.
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@WaterPhoenix
Not quite sure what you mean.
But ultimately everyone has the same ancestors anyway.
People tend to just cherry pick fairly recently stuff and turn it into culture and assumed differences.
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@billbatard
I gave up excessive drinking and the Sex Pistols approximately 40 years ago.
Perhaps it's time to move on.
You're not a teenager anymore Bill.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The existence of matter.
Is it chance or is it purposeful.
Therefore might the evolution of matter as it has occurred, be an inevitable process.
if so, do we have any real say in the process or are we just a part of an inevitable evolutionary sequence?
Is technological singularity the ultimate God?
The God that reinitiated the sequence and the God that we will help to recreate and the God that will once again reinitiate the sequence.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
1) Chance or purpose?
2) Therefore, is material evolution pre-ordained or not?
3) Therefore, do we actually have a say in the matter?
If one chooses purpose then one would be inclined to answer Yes and No to questions 2 and 3. So under these circumstances, technological singularity would seem to be inevitable.
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@ebuc
We live unnaturally longer, but there again what is nature. As it's fair to suggest that living unnaturally longer is in fact of a natural process.
And we can apply that logic to every situation that you listed 1 to 4 and probably everything that can be listed under 5.
And we can also apply that logic to the Bikini Atoll nuclear test and it's consequences.
In fact we can probably apply that logic to everything.
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@billbatard
Bill.
How about some punctuation and spellchecking?
Nonetheless it makes for fun reading.
Regards.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
What is God?
As far as I am concerned, gods were explanations that mankind created in it's own image.
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@3RU7AL
If you can not comprehend what is meant by the same old unresolvable argument then why do you continue to debate it?
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@Athias
Exactly.
So eight hours of work is eight hours of work.
And worth is arbitrary.
And social justice or injustice is something we can choose to ignore if we are in a position to be able to do so.
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@WaterPhoenix
Culture is assumed differences.
Generally, relative to past events.
People on one side of a line continuing to assume that they are different to people on the other side of the line, simply based on the previous activities of their dead ancestors.
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@TheRealNihilist
Empty is empty.
And full is full.
So both are incorrect.
But we nonetheless realise the implication.
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@Stephen
Rape in a modern context is just that.
Rape two or three thousand years ago was probably an accepted norm.
Attempting to applying modern standards to an archaism is somewhat futile.
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@3RU7AL
Functionality is obviously going to be the same but outcomes will continue to be variable. This is the nature of the beast.
And as ever the discussion descends into another protracted rehash of the same old unresolvable argument.
Though that is not to say that conditioning could not be standardised.
But the trouble will always be, how to agree on the standard. And that discussion will probably always descend into a protracted rehash of the same old unresolvable argument.
But let's be honest and ask ourselves, do we do it for the satisfaction of a resolution or for the enjoyment and stimulation obtained from the argument?
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@WaterPhoenix
Culture is entertaining.
But culture is also backward thinking.
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@WaterPhoenix
Isn't it just a continuation of human stupidity that we now don't all use the same language.
Which might as well now be English.
The Welsh language is a prime example of the continuation of human stupidity.
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@PressF4Respect
I think that any outcome will lack proof and general satisfaction.
Because the outcome is always the same.
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@Trent0405
I just click the keys and what happens happens.
And what happens is always efficient and adequate enough for my needs.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Conspiracy Theorists:
There are always people who think that science and scientists are out to deceive everyone else.
And if it's not scientists that they mistrust or resent, it will be politicians or any other successful persons.
Nonetheless, humanity assisted climate change is a real and natural process and similarly any outcomes or counter measures will also be real and natural processes.
Que sera sera, as Doris informed us.
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@Athias
Economics
Reasoning
Specifics
Factors
Impressions
Analysis
It's all acquired, assimilated, stored, rehashed and outputted data.
And I'm certain that you fully understand every point that I make, because you clearly have enough intelligence.
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@Fruit_Inspector
It's very difficult to nullify something that it's very difficult to nullify.
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@Athias
The assertion substantiates itself.
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@Greyparrot
As I see it, there is only one land available.
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@Mopac
I have grown to lack hatred, not that I was ever particularly hateful.
I simply have a different set of data output relative to what is broadly known as theism, which obviously includes Christianity.
I debate because I enjoy it and I output data relative to my acquired knowledge/conditioning, as do you. Neither of us is right and neither of us is wrong.
The population of China is approximately 1.4 billon individuals and you (Inadvertently perhaps) regard them all with equal disdain. Which as I see it is wholly unchristian.
I am therefore happy with my conclusion that conditioned self righteousness and insular arrogance suitably describe the particular type of U.S. mindset that you display.
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@ebuc
Maybe we're on a knife edge or maybe we're not.
Things are always constantly changing.
A significant reduction in the human population wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing though.
Maybe it's all about the reality of material evolution and our role within the process.
Or maybe it's all pure chance.
As ever, the jury's out.
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@Nemiroff
Yep.
What you are saying is that everything is real.
And I assume that everything is real.
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@Paul
Lesson learned. Hence the test.
It's a pity that you weren't around at the time to put all those numpty scientists straight.
Though some cynics might argue that you have the advantage of hindsight.
Some might also say that all nuclear tests are a mistake.
Though some might say that nuclear testing is an inevitable consequence of humanity.
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@Fruit_Inspector
So, semantics becomes an argument within itself.
And there is still, no real evidence of a particular gods existence.
Only assumption.
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@ebuc
Education is conditioning rather than preconditioning.
Ergo, variable data output is relative to variable conditioning.
Ergo, differences of opinion.
In that sense you are just as narrow minded as everyone one else is.
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@TheRealNihilist
So where was this God when we needed a little bit of help and advice?
Or is it going to turn up at the end and point it's divine finger and go ha ha ha you stupid human twats.
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@TheRealNihilist
There's a distinction to be made between happiness and contentment. Happiness is a random momentary occurrence, whereas contentment is the continuous state of mind that we should all probably aspire to achieve.
Though both are acquired data constructs rather than inherent states.
Therefore assumed states of mind that exceed base function are reliant on the acquisition of knowledge.
So happiness is resultant of knowledge. But that is not to say that the acquisition of knowledge will necessarily evoke happiness
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@crossed
The counter argument is just as effective.
And therein always lies the problem.
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@Athias
1) Economics is variable data, so therefore one must expect variable output.
2) So your impression is one example of variable data output. As was that of Nemiroff.
3) You either respect society as a human collective or you do not. People are real and money is an associated construct.
4) Social justice is what it is and once again your impression is your impression.
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@crossed
God or magic?
To prove that it was God, one must first prove God and vice versa.
As I previously implied, you are now instigating two separate debates.
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@Tradesecret
The nonsense, that is unfounded belief.
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@crossed
I am in general agreement with that fact.
Though I am certain that it is all down to natural processes rather than magic.
How natural processes were created or evolved is a separate issue.
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@crossed
How did anything come into existence?
We absorb silver naturally from our environment anyway.
And silver like most mineral nutrients, can be harmful if it is overused.
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@crossed
There's a huge difference between magic and the bodily absorption of specifically beneficial substances contained in certain plants and minerals.
Though in most cases, all of our necessary nutrient requirements can be obtained from a healthy balanced diet.
Obviously If one has a poor diet then dietary supplements may be beneficial.
Though reliance on dietary supplements is no substitute for a healthy positive lifestyle.
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@billbatard
Well. If you just paid a bit more attention to the red squiggly lines, you would make a lot more sense.
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@billbatard
Are you really a 60 year old English speaking French man with a graduate degree?
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@Tradesecret
If we continue teaching our kids nonsense, then they will continue to believe in nonsense.
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@billbatard
What are bat freest places?
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@crossed
Healthy balanced diet, plenty of exercise, a good set of genes, P.M.A. and a certain amount of luck.
Crystals and other non-dietary health fads can perhaps have positive psychological benefits for some people, though I doubt that Crystals have any direct physiological influence.
Healthy lifestyle and exercise are your best bet.
Sitting around eating and drinking junk and then worrying about the side effects is the real killer.
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