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@Alec
Isn't the U.S.A. a N.A.U?
And why would a nice country like Canada even consider such retrograde move?
And if Greenland were to gain full independence from Denmark, why would they suddenly think that it would be a good idea to give all their territory and natural resources away to the U.S.A?
All smells of Empiricism to me!
And furthermore the U.S. needs hard working Mexicans. Who's going to do all the donkey work otherwise?
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@Mopac
Trouble is; all this fasting, temperance and resisting of passion nonsense is human derived ritualistic stuff.
If there were an omni-sensible God it would be far to rational to really appreciate it.
It would probably, respectfully patronise your efforts, but chuckle to itself when it new you weren't looking.
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@Stronn
"Depends on us spreading into space".
Who is us? Who, in your minds eye do you see when you refer to us?
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@Melcharaz
Faith is a conceived notion.
As is testimony.
It's all a process of acquiring, storing, assimilating and regurgitating data.
A completely internal function rather than an external function.
As such, one persons conclusions or assumptions will never be quite the same as another's.
Especially when one considers the highly variable circumstances which may overbear an individuals formative conditioning.
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@Mharman
Murder:
The unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human with malice aforethought.
Therefore abortion is or isn't murder, only if all the necessary criteria are fulfilled or not.
Therefore; your emphatic proposition "abortion is murder" cannot be readily substantiated.
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@Mopac
@TheRealNihilist
What is knowledge?
In simple terms and as far as we know, knowledge is uniquely a human thing. (Ok. Other Earth species may also possess the ability to store and utilise data)
Therefore human knowledge is human knowledge and consequently what we know is what we know.
What actually is there to judge the credibility of our knowledge?
As current knowledge stands and no matter how much some people might protest to the contrary; Gods and Aliens and Ultimate Realities are just assumptions and cannot actually be known and therefore remain incredible.
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@alluremedspa123
Who or what defines a natural looking body?
What you're referring to is not a natural physique, but a physique that is generally regarded as being more aesthetically acceptable.
As things actually are, all body shapes develop naturally.
I would suggest that given the circumstances, liposuction is probably about as unnatural as things can get
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@WaterPhoenix
Do you give all your possessions a name?
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@3RU7AL
Digging up a 17th century Philosopher and attempting to confound with definition and gobbledygook, doesn't prove a sausage.
And I agree with the notion that ultimate reality is 0. If a God existed it would have been 1.
We are still as reliant as we ever were, upon magic for the ultimate answer to the ultimate question.
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@EtrnlVw
So go ahead, emphatically prove the unprovable. I Shouldn't have to ask questions if the proof is so unequivocal.
If the unprovable could have been proven or had been proved, we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
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@keithprosser
Yep.
I get your point.
From a basic and typical human perspective (brain held data and how we respond to incoming data) white is white.
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@EtrnlVw
I will live as long as I do, with the same opinion. Unless the Big Guy should happen to stick his out head from behind the cloud that he's hiding behind and politely introduce himself.
Which is what one would expect an omni-sensible God to do.
As it stands I'm pretty confident that the Kingdom of God exists only as brain data, which will dissipate upon death. You've been led to confidently believe otherwise, which is just fine and dandy.
Of course, we end up as ever with the same old, same old. You cannot prove the unprovable and I cannot disprove the unprovable. No matter how much we might rant and rave.
LOL.
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@crossed
Neither Polar Bears or Snowflakes are actually White.
It's all Brain Trickery.
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@Mopac
The Kingdom of God is in some peoples heads.
In fact the notion of a Kingdom of God is probably in most peoples heads, given the free flow of associated information.
Though he level of importance attributed to the notion of a Kingdom of God varies considerably, depending mostly on the intensity of our formative conditioning. (Childhood brainwashing).
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@mustardness
Absolutely fine. But consider my advice, ditch the pseudo-science and channel your mental energy into something a little more realistic.
Regards.
Z4
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@Mopac
Black/ White.
As ever the argument is not ostensibly about Race, but about perceived differences and consequent paranoia, mostly relative to skin tone. Which is somewhat rich coming from such a young Nation that was founded on immigration and multi-culturalism.
A German President with a Slovenian wife, who was previously married to a Czech woman. Just about sums up fair skinned hypocrisy and paranoia.
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@RationalMadman
The thing is:
The majority of Inactive greedy people are suitably educated, to be able to understand that they are living inactive and greedy lives.
They have a similar understanding of the difference between a healthy diet and an unhealthy diet.
Yet they make little or no effort to address their problems.
I cant see much point in sucking out the fat one end, if they are only going to continue sitting around shovelling crap into the other.
Greedy lazy fat people is greedy lazy fat people and that's their problem.
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@mustardness
Drivel!
And Bogus Science.
You might know one or two things, but so do millions of other people.
Bucky Fuller you ain't!
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@Alec
"How is cultural differences relevant"...... Sounds like intolerant Trumpian rhetoric to me.
How long before their chanting Seig Heil at Trump's rallies?
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@mustardness
You picked an inaccurate number and attempted to imply a significant relationship between that inaccurate number and one particular set of body parts. By pointing out that we have 33 vertebrae I was simply expounding the tenuous nature of your claim.
I know perfectly well what circles and polygons are. I was merely questioning the implied relationship between them.
"As for rounded off truth". Well; perhaps you really should have taken up the flute 20 years ago.
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@mustardness
Dr Franklin is correct.
A simple inaccuracy. Casually overlooked.
We have 31 pairs of spinal nerves.
We have 33 vertebrae. So What?
Known geometry is what it is and has been known for a few thousand years longer than twenty.
Circles/Polygons?
20 years wasted maybe. Perhaps you should have taken up the flute.
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@swatioak99
It's worth it for the Cosmetic Surgeons.
As for dumbass, gluttonous, inactive, fat people. That's a problem of their own making!
As Dr Franklin says.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Alcohol is as Alcohol does.
The human approach to alcohol is the same as the human approach to religion. Stupidity!
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@Alec
What you describe isn't Communism. That is Tyrannical Autocracy.
As I clearly stated; Communism is an impossible utopia.
The U.S. should just stop meddling. Especially in regions where they have little understanding and intolerance of cultural differences.
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@Alec
1. State managed breeding programmes. A.I. using accredited sperm donors, screened and selected for their non aggressive and unselfish temperament.
2. Efficient State run Brothels, eliminates all your highlighted problems. Though; option 1 is preferable, as option 1 negates the need for option 2.
Option 1 allows for the creation of a single homogenised World species. Which would eradicate racial intolerance and national conflicts.
Of course it would help if we could also eradicate the other two major stumbling blocks that prevent global peace and stability. Money and Religion.
Or more appropriately; Selfishness and Stupidity.
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@Alec
Testosterone, the gun hormone.
Aggression merely placates the procreational drive.
Two solutions:
1. Castration
2. Brothels. (Free, State regulated and inclusive).
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@mustardness
Are you able to validate any of your comments, scenarios, concepts as presented?
The trouble with your fanciful hypotheses, is that they are meaningless unless they have applicable rationality.
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@Alec
Communism is a philosophical daydreamers utopia.
As I implied; the U.S left the Korean Peninsula with only half the job done.
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@mustardness
Unfortunately landmines were/are a sad fact of human conflict.
Nonetheless, landmines do not address the highlighted issue.
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Marriage is archaic nonsense. Reinvented and remarketed. Give us your money and we will give you back, absolutely nothing at the end of the day.
Birth - Life - Death and a bit of procreation: This can all be achieved without marriage.
Financial stability can also be achieved with or without marriage.
The benefit of no marriage, is no divorce when you've had enough.
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@mustardness
Huh!
Says the top pseudo-scientist. Ergo magic.
More clarification and less meaningless drivel. Please.
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@mustardness
Huh?
There is 0 (2D), or there is spatial potential (3D). Simple.
The question is how do you get from one state to another.
And the answer is, no one knows. Not even the "ego" that is mustardness.
No amount of their pseudo-scientific symbolism and jargonism gets close.
An oscillating universal sequence negates the infinite. Thereby allowing an instantaneous finality and re-initiation, ergo zero is momentarily achieved.
1-0-1. A simple and logical hypothesis that can explain a zero state, within a sequence.
Nonetheless 0-1 is the sticking point.
Primary initiation. Something from nothing?
Theism always starts at 1. Atheism simply says that this is not good enough. Ergo I am an Atheist.
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@mustardness
2D = 0
3D= Unlimited Potential.
Occupied Space is limited to Total Mass Potential. Ergo Expansive Infinite is negated. (Though, in no way necessarily relative to 3D spatial potential)
Regressed infinity becomes implausible. Ergo Total Mass at 2D State can only be temporary. (Given the accrued energy at fractional collapse events).
Ergo Universal oscillation = 101010101
Nonetheless we still rely upon primary magic for both God and creation and also presumably for extirpation.
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@BrotherDThomas
The biblical texts have been rewritten and translated so many times. Therefore the current bible is certain to be rife with interpolations.
So how can the bible be taken seriously?
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@Mopac
The death penalty doesn't stop people murdering. So why would the death penalty stop people enjoying a bit of the other?
Given that your referring to fallible men, whose primary mind drives are survival and sex.
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Catch 22. How does one disprove, something that cannot be proven.
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@RoderickSpode
How do you know this was Jesus? And not your mind playing tricks.
The whole gleaming robed vision thing is so typical and cheesy and has probably been stored in your internal database since childhood.
I went up a mountain and decided to believe.
One could go up a mountain and decide to believe anything.
This was all, simply a conscious manipulation of acquired and stored data relative to external stimuli.
You are probably just a highly susceptible and easily influenced person.
If your roommates had all been Buddhists, you would probably have had a vision of the Buddha and subsequently have decided to become a Buddhist.
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@Mopac
The heart is just an organ that pumps blood.
The best way to purify the body is to stay fit and healthy.
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@Mopac
Spirituality is as spirituality does.
I think I am spiritual, therefore I think that I am spiritual.
The contentious nature of spirituality, make it one of the more problematic human concepts.
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@BrotherDThomas
The Bible is clearly a Mythology.
The "Flood" is possibly an inclusion relative to an extensive reginal flood event. Though, the "Noah Story" is totally illogical and therefore a fanciful embellishment.
And you assume that you are a Christian, because you were taught to assume that you are a Christian.
And as hypotheses go, Christianity like it's Sister and Brother Religions are absurdly "pissing" into the wind.
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@bmdrocks21
Boys with guns.
Us and them.
Same old shit Eugene.
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@mustardness
1) As I suggested; you over-thought and missed the point completely. Hence your reply was not relevant to the proposition.
2) Mathematics can only quantify something if there is something to quantify.
3) You think you're way ahead but you're lost in space
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@mustardness
I would suggest that we tend to over think space and time.
Space and time are intangible base potentials and cannot be quantified?
Matter is the magic bit that we cannot get our heads around.
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@3RU7AL
"It" is data processing.
All function is reliant upon data processing. Both consciously and subconsciously.
Can "free will" be anything other than independently formulating an independent thought, from acquired and stored data?
How freely we acquire data is a more questionable subject. Especially as we have no control whatsoever over how we acquire our genetic information.
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@RationalMadman
Yep.
Endgame is definitely the wrong word.
Aftermath might be more appropriate.
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@Barney
The inherent default is procreation.
That's why to be celibate is to be an onanist.
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