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RFK changes on the Measels vacciene
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@Best.Korea
For sure, all medical and surgical intervention prolongs life expectancy.

Such is the nature of things.
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The United States should annex Canada
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@RemyBrown
In terms of sensibility it would be far better if Canada annexed the US.

Though why the fuck would Canada want to do that?

You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as the saying goes.
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RFK changes on the Measels vacciene
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@Best.Korea
@RemyBrown
Natural selection eventually gave us vaccines.

Just as it eventually gave us all other medicines. (Treat the symptoms and the complications, or treat the cause).

And DebateArt.


Though for sure, is 8.2 billion a necessity?

Maybe so, maybe not.

We just don't know.

But in the main, we think that we are a necessity. (Thoughts are nonetheless variable). But in the main.


Does RFK trade on the acronym?


And is it Measles Vaccine, or is it Measels Vacciene...That is the question. 
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㊙️ THE STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR ATHEISM (TSAFA)
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@Yassine
For sure, contingency is merely a life time of process.

And why is a possibility necessarily a necessity?

And the rest is a latter day version of a previous version of......

And as wordy as it maybe, it still doesn't prove a sausage.

And a GOD maybe, regardless of my suggestions.

And your suggestions too.

Or maybe not.

Such is the bottom line of all these GOD hypotheses.

And "Instructing kids" is about the strength of it.
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AI is getting scary.
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@Shila
Exactly.
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Justificatinm of worth to the bottom line
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@Shila
How?

Justification of worth to the bottom line.

Ask Fauxlaw.
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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@FLRW
@Shila
Christ Myth Theory.

Undoubtedly.


Gospel:

Old English for a good story.
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AI is getting scary.
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@Shila
If humanity does have a greater universal significance, then given our limitations, I would suggest that AI is essential to it's progress.
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AI self consciousness
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@rbelivb
Very interesting.
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Justificatinm of worth to the bottom line
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@Shila
14 kids to feed.

He needs the money.
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Polygamy - Yes!
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@FLRW
G. Mary, I call this my Holy Spirit.

M. Good Lord big boy.
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@Yassine
Hi Yas, just waiting to see if you have something to say.

If I don't here soon, I just will assume that you have run out of ideas.

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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@fauxlaw
So, call on Dad for me and send him over to my place...I assume that he already knows the Address.


And as I stated, Middle English didn't develop until a thousand years later.

Just pointing out Faux. that modern data doesn't necessarily validate archaic texts...Just reinvents them relative to the expectations of  the reviewer...Irrespective of whether it be a 300 year, or 1300 year exercise... If I were to ask you tomorrow, to repeat this paragraph unaided and unpractised, how much would you accurately remember...And what if 300 years from now the same question were to asked of a Chinese speaker.

So who was the person who followed Jesus about, jotting down his exact words...And where are the original copies...And in what language were they written.

And can you send me a copy of the first Greek translation so that I can verify that it is accurate.
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Funny joke
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@FLRW
Hmmmmm.

Making Christmas decorations.

And occasionally hanging coats if they had been found guilty.

Of course, before the introduction of wardrobes, coat hangers were hopeless...And it was impossible to get to Narnia.
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Motion > Change > Resultant Complexity?
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@ebuc
Nice.
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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@Shila
As I stated, the word trinity is of Middle English origin, from somewhere between the 11th to the 15th centuries AD...So quite obviously won't be found in Ancient Semitic or Hebrew scripture.

"Bible" is also of Middle English origin.

So the Council of Nicaea sat in Bithynia and was headed by a Roman Serb, and with the help of a cadre of translators attempted to make sense of several hundred years of Chinese whispers...(Best of luck Guys)

Did you know that Vladimir the Great spread Christianity throughout Russia during the 9th century AD.

Funny, seeing as the Name Russia wasn't used until the 16th century AD, and the word Christianity is also of Middle English origin.


OK, so a whole lot of cross referencing going on...But nonetheless exemplifies the inevitability of  inconsistencies in later day versions of 2000 to 3000 year old texts.

That's if such texts were actually factual rather than just exaggerated word of mouth recollections.

Notwithstanding that the MANGOD principle wasn't something new, anyway...Just reinvented.
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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@fauxlaw
The bible is what it has become.

Who knows if it is an accurate reinterpretation, transcription, translation of historical fact, folklore or fanciful hypothesis.

Constantine and his cadre of translators were 300 years too late.

So context is unachievable unless the Big Guy does a fly by and puts the record straight.

And I was simply pointing out that modern Christianity and Trinity are clearly of much later European production.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
A man of ideological mystery, who describes himself as libertarian.

Save for Cats and Star Trek.


Nope, I'm not a flag man or enamoured of any divisive symbolism.


So China is keen to redraw maps. ..Not much Putin can do about that.

And with a 14000 mile border to defend and not many true friends, save for a few Orthodox Slavs and perhaps a current  North Korean boyfriend.


(Not even sure that Lukashenko's love is as undying as it once was).


How do you predict Russia's future, moving on from it's current boggy position in Eastern Ukraine?

Indeed, moving on when?

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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@Stephen
@Shila
Trinity is a middle English word, derived from the Latin trinitas.

Nothing remotely Semitic or Hebrew about the word.

So clearly made up later by Europeans.

As was most of modern Christianity.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
Hey, the ongoing Russo-Soviet autocratic record for mass ethnic extermination, beats Hitler hands down.

So does it's total disregard for it's own cannon fodder and any internal dissent.

And you love these people...So perhaps you should buy a one way ticket and go sign up.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Best.Korea
Ships are easily sunk, even with rudimentary ordinance.

As the Ukrainians proved.

A direct hit on a munitions and fuel laden ship is likely to end in total disaster.
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AI is getting scary.
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@Shila
Well, intelligence is as intelligence does.

And the current human ability to exponentially evolve matter into alternative data management systems, is a demonstrable testament to its intellectual capability.

So organic organisms took a while to get this far...But actually they only took as long as they did...Our retrospective impatience is inconsequential.

Though our current inability to comfortably exist beyond this planets protective shields, might suggest where the intellectual future lies.

Of course, intelligence might have no Greater universal significance...Which would imply, that neither does humanity.
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Dash to the future
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@Best.Korea
Bedtime now BK.

Sleep tight she would say to me.

Lilac Earth Mother.
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Dash to the future
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@Best.Korea
As in all events.

Buds spread crimson if and when

Ice and snow relents.


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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@Stephen
I'm guessing that there will be more than one Interventionist Super-Intelligence cruising the Universe.

Possibly three.

Maybe more.
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@FLRW
And what did Mary say to daft Joe?

Jesus!

I'm pregnant, for God's sake.


Yep, these things quickly get misinterpreted.
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Dash to the future
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@FLRW
@Best.Korea
A Zedku for BK and FLRW.


No need to dash,

The future is,

Now,

Now,

Now,

Now,

In fact,

Time is so fast,

That the Past, present and future

Occur simultaneously.




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AI is getting scary.
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@Shila
Intelligence is intelligence.

Inorganic intelligence is just an Alternative.

Things will occur and we will fall into the scheme of things...Which is how it goes.

Which is how it will go.
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SETTING the RECORD STRAIGHT: a HISTORY of the HISTORY CATEGORY
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@FLRW
A Zedku for FLRW.


Everything is history,

Apart from,

Now,

Now,

Now,

Now,

In fact,

Time is so fast 

That now is always then.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
Nope, just testing nuclear weapons at a distance.

200000 civilians were just guinea pigs.

Was always going to be someone.

Clever stupid gene.
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Whats the point of workout for legs?
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@FLRW
Or fight Bears.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
Yep, closer to Russia, closer to North Korea.

So whilst Donald is sucking Vlads dick, Kim will be able to fuck Donalds arse.

HaHa and you think that Russia is democratic.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
Well I doubt that the relatives of the 27000000 dead Russians and the 407000 dead Americans laughed much either.

But let's be honest, the Russian elite has never given a toss about the death of cannon fodder. 

And I doubt that MR Trump does either.


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Who is the real tough guy?
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@WyIted
So, there a two ways to  totally duck out of a skirmish with Mr Putin.

1. Let down all your allies of the past 75 years or so, and jump into bed with Mr Putin and kiss his arse.

2. Encourage the Ukrainians to take up the skirmish, but keep it at a safe distance, and get some rare earth thrown in for your troubles.


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Justificatinm of worth to the bottom line
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@fauxlaw
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Colonies are such, that all parts make a working whole.

Ok...Perhaps we don't need so many parts...But that's a separate issue.

Nonetheless, without a  hierarchy of both intellectual variety and physical ability, nothing would get done, and the system would not function.

And Faux, same as everyone else, would live in a hovel at the mercy of the big bad Wolves.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
Thank goodness the Orange dick brain wasn't in charge back then. We know who would have sided with.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@sadolite
Well, recent skirmishes that the USA has started, have resulted in a total mess and a sharp exit when the going got tough.

At least the Ukrainians are sticking in there.
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Who is the real tough guy?
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@Greyparrot
A Zedku for Greyparrot.


Trump wants to be GOD.

In a red hat.
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@Best.Korea
A Zedku for BK


Everything or nothing.
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@fauxlaw
Let's just take Musk and Trump for comparison,

Two big egos, one the intellectual and the other....You work it out.

So no, ego is not necessarily an outcome of intellect.


Can you clarify what you mean by "productivity"?
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@fauxlaw
Well, I wasn't really associating ego with intellect, as I didn't think that was the issue.

And I wouldn't argue that higher intellect should in the main, equate to to higher value.

Though I'm not certain what criteria you are using to calculate relative productivity. Or in fact, what you mean by productivity relative to IQ and associated value.

Do you just mean wealth accumulation?
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Corruption in the United States of America
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@IlDiavolo
Corruption is as corruption does.

Honour amongst thieves is how the saying goes.

And who is to say which is the more honourable bunch of thieves?

Find a niche, keep your head down, and let the thieves fight it out.
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The average American works more than peasants from the middle ages
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@n8nrgim
Hey.

The Middle ages period was between the 5th and 15th centuries.

The USA was founded in 1776.

Get my drift.

Sort of...Americans didn't exist during the Middle ages.
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Discussion On FDR
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@Sunshineboy217


I merely suggested moving on from an eighty years dead guy.

You stated that I never needed to do this.

Reciprocal prerogatives then.

Have another nice day.


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@Shila
It's estimated that up to 80 million people died as a result of WW2.

It is also estimated that up to 80 million people died as a result of Moa Zedong.

And the Indian sub-continent has certainly had it's fair share of conflicts, notably  WW2 and the partition era.


Though I think that it's fair to say, that although always notable, wars since WW2 involving Western nations, have not been as catastrophic in terms of population depletion.


I would therefore suggest that the distinction in population growth between Indo-China and the West, has more to do with social ideology and very little to do with conflict.
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@Yassine
God is not a man.

For sure, which is a distinction between a mind concept and actuality, and how the atheist or non-theist  might also see things.

Obviously as a non-theist I can still appreciate the possibility of a metaphysical interventionist entity.

Whereas the traditional Abrahamic theist accepts a God not as a possibility, but as a metaphysical certainty. Therein attributing said GOD with distinctly male human characteristics and qualities.

GOD created by man, in the image of man...And as a kid, I was subjected to theistic conditioning, wherein GOD was always portrayed and illustrated as such.

A despite what you say, I doubt that there are many Muslim kids who are not similarly inspired.

So, if  GOD is not a man, then what is it?

 I would suggest an indefinite metaphysical principle, which is an idea that I as a non-theist can happily run with and hypothesise about at length. Though in order to do so, I see absolutely  no reason to join a theistic club and subject myself to a bizarrely unnecessary ritualistic routine, in reverence to an indefinite metaphysical uncertainty.


So:

"Islam rejects characterising god in any human form or depicting HIM as."

"HE created  human beings."

"Nothing is comparable to HIM."

D'oh...Pronouns Homer, prounouns.
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US Votes To Not Condemn Russia’s War On Ukraine
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@Sidewalker
True.

For every arsehole there is a reproductive organ.

Yin and Yang.
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@Shila
Well, death in general will reduce population...This is a truism.

As birth will increase population

Though in terms of the human species, wars and abortion currently do not impact upon population growth.

Which would suggest that currently in terms of species success,  procreation and all factors that affect longevity are demographically more significant than abortion and war.
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@fauxlaw
 There is a tendency for self valuing high intellect achievers to foster disrespect.

Ego and inevitable resentment.


Quiet modesty is perhaps the better way to earn a broader level of respect, in all areas of social and intellectual achievement.

Easier said than done.
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Discussion On FDR
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@Sunshineboy217
See and respond.

Freedom of thought and expression.

Thankfully.

Not for you to decide what I might or might not need to do.

Have a nice day.
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