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@ebuc
Elon Musk.
Saint or sinner?
Dangerously clever or cleverly dangerous?
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@sadolite
Hey, it's good to pretend that something exists.
Makes existence worthwhile.
Occasionally, some folk just get fed up with it.
Is that actually you in the avatar.
If so, you don't look such a grumpy old git.
Stay focussed.
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@Shila
My Wife prefers gardening these days.
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@Shila
Hey Shila.
I exercise more than most 64 year olds do.
Today it's been 1 hour exercise bike and 2 hours dog walking.
Looking forwards to better weather and longer daylight, so that I can get out and do some 60 milers.
Longer if circumstances allow.
Mr's Zeds mother is frail and lives 90 miles away... They need to spend as much remaining time together as possible....You get that don't you?
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@Lemming
More thoughts
Carbon racing/road bike, thin tyres, big gears.
Designed for these big Welsh hills.
My cottage is on a 20% incline/decline.
I rarely turn right when I exit my gate.
Need to warm up first.
I lived a great deal of my life before the internet.
And went to the cinema more often.
Running was my passion back then.
And music over TV.
I have a mobile device, not a smartphone.
I have no desire to constantly be in touch with stuff and people that it isn't necessary to be constantly in touch with.
I do see value in the internet.
And regard technology as an inevitable evolutionary phase.
Listening to Hiroshi Yoshimura now.
Four Post Cards
Very relaxing and helps me think and compose.
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@Shila
Monday afternoon.
She has gone to visit her 91 year old Mother.
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@Shila
Winking.
Was that a typo.
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@Best.Korea
Sex rarely does.
In fact, it's known for procreation.
In fact, that's the real reason for it.
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@Mall
I bet he's mature enough to play with guns.
I think I read, of a gun nut club somewhere, that provided gun parties for kids.
And another incidence where a 9 year old girl was allowed to play with an Uzi and killed an instructor.
Such is the stupidity of law and adults, let alone the immaturity of 12 year olds with pro-active penises.
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@ebuc
Naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed.
Yep I agree, but within the current limits of our understanding of everything...(Though this does not make the question of material existence go away).
Nonetheless, if matter is transformed from a developing state to an entropic state...Then what?
Does matter within the boundless eternity of time and space just separate and fizzle out.
Or.
Does the process of material development restart or reinitiate...If so, how?
GOD principle (Not a magic bloke) that develops as matter evolves.
Or.
An infinite by variable Space...Wherein matter once again reaches a point of finite confinement from where it is once again re energized.
An eternal sequence of universal bladders if you like.
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@Lemming
Random thoughts on a theme of Lemming.
For me, reading has two purposes, informational necessity and relaxation.
I prefer factual books, because I dislike the contrivance of fiction.
I do have a more eclectic taste in visual entertainment, though I am picky.
Depending upon season, I will watch TV for between 0 and 3 hrs per day.
I never go to the cinema and never listen to the radio.
I find radios in cars particularly irksome.
Nonetheless if circumstance permits, I will occasionally don my headphones and listen to some music from You.Tube.
Usually, either prog-rock or ambient....Occasionally classical.
At the moment, the late Hiroshi Yoshimura is my musician of choice.
Online discussions sites, chiefly DebateArt and DebateIsland is where I can waste too much time.
Like this morning.
Today Mrs Zed is away, so I am completing the rebuilding and refurbishing of one of my bicycles, and will also work out for an hour on my exercise bike.
Other than that, it will be general daily chores...Modern day hunter gathering.
Hope that I haven't bored you with my random thoughts Lemming.
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@ebuc
We've discussed this before.
Time and Space are eternal potential.
Stuff is that which occupies and develops.
Interim events are relative occurrences and development.
Relative to Time, Space and Stuff.
As a thinking organism caught up in universal events, I would suggest that the above is a basic understanding of the universe, rather than a belief.
Other than that, I speculate as to whether or not a universe is predestined, either by influence, or more so by physical law, to inevitably proceed in a certain way towards a conclusion.
Given that we think we exist and are aware of material development, especially in terms of technological progress, I therefore also speculate upon why this would be so.
By chance or for a purpose.
I then further speculate as to whether the unfulfillment of any role within a universal process would therefore lead to a universal failure.
For example, the inability to reinitiate from an entropic state to an ectropic state....The GOD principle if you like.
And of course, the thinking organism will inevitably wonder how matter can exist at all.
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@ebuc
As I see it.
Potential is eternal.
Stuff begs an explanation.
And meta-space power or intelligence would require the same answers.
Interim events may or may not be necessary or purposeful.
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@FLRW
Yep.
I'm buff and oiled.
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@Skipper_Sr
Penguins.
Crazy birds.
Standing around in the frozen wastes with an egg on their feet.
Whilst the missus goes of and does some fishing.
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@Best.Korea
Some people think that the bible is great.
Some people are easily duped.
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@ebuc
Hi Ebuc.
Is the Universe eternally existent and occupied?
Or should I ask...Was the Universe always existent and occupied.
Maybe it wasn't but now is (potentially).
For me, it ceases to be a scientifically answerable question.
And becomes a mind game.
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@Sidewalker
Of course, it's the persons body that decides to start producing gametes.
And when this occurs the body demands copulation.
But minds have chosen to try and overthink the body.
Would be great if we could overthink cancer.
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@Shila
As I always point out.
It's taken over 4 billion years for life to evolve to this level of intellect.
Electronic computers less than 100.
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@Shila
Just another day.
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@Best.Korea
Of course.
Not 1984 but not far off.
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@WyIted
Probably too busy scratching it's pseudo cu*t to notice.
Or someone else was scratching it.
Away to go.
Aviation failures tend to end in tragedies, rather than fun times.
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@Best.Korea
Yep.
Freedom of thought is one of our last great freedoms.
If not the last.
But for how long?
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@Sidewalker
Hey, Sidewalker.
Not many years ago at all, homosexuals were treated just as badly.
But now they are the heroes of our generation.
Here's a question for you.
Over hear the age of consent is sixteen.
So in terms of physiological maturity what's the difference between 15 years and 364 days, and 16 years?
One day of course, and during that one day a person becomes capable of making their own sexual choices, and will also become incorruptible.
What a difference a day makes,
Twenty four little hours.
La la la la la.
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@FLRW
@Shila
Interesting that crypto's value is always referred to in dollars.
Crypto will always have a relative value, doesn't matter what you call it.
So if one crypto is worth $60, and the transsexual prostitute charges $60 per hour.
Then I will owe them a twelfth of a crypto for my blow job.
What is a twelfth of a crypto called?
A dodecacrypto perhaps.
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@Mall
What truth?
Is this another GOD based reference?
Facts are known.
Supposition is what it is.
And truth has a broader definition.
A GOD might or might not exist...This is a truth.
A bible is not a book of verifiable facts...This is another truth.
If a bloke turns up in a spaceship with the letters G O D emblazoned upon it, then we can perhaps move forwards with the truth.
Pregnant virgins and itinerant carpenters, just don't cut the factual mustard.
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@Best.Korea
So you are joking about a serious topic.
Yes.
Because it's probably what most folk think but are too repressed to say.
I hasten to add that basic consensual heterosexuality and interim masturbation has always sufficed for me.
No children harmed in the making of this programme.
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@FLRW
918 of 45 to 49 year old males, thought that 9 out of ten cats preferred Whiskas cat food.
Wow, that was one hell of a broad in depth study.
Why not survey 82 more and make it a round 1000.
And 45 to 49...Why not 47 to 51 or some other random 4 year period.
Such is Welsh academia I suppose.
Though the Welsh prefer shagging sheep.
And I hasten to add that with regard to such National proclivities, I am British/English residing in Wales.
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@Tradesecret
Well, basically the whole GOD Jesus myth was so obviously based upon the human condition, several thousand years ago in one very small region of Planet Earth.
Why just make yourself known to a few Arabian blokes?
So, the ideology spread as human intelligence spread across the globe.
But GOD never seemed to take into account human intellectual and social evolution, which is odd considering it's omniscience.
For a GOD to do what it supposedly did, it must have been intellectually and technologically advanced...And yet it handed out it's social edict to Moses, chiselled onto lumps of rock.
And then there is the whole Mary Jesus palaver...Is that a sensible way for a supremely intelligent being to get a message across.
Nope, it's so obviously the product of human ignorance....As was the ten commandments story....As was and still is everything transcribed to later bibles.
None of which is not to say that the GOD hypothesis is not reasonable...Or as I refer to it, Interventionist Super-Intelligence...ISI.
Though the somewhat more logical ISI hypothesis, nonetheless comes with it's own set if imponderable questions.
The upside though, is that pointy buildings, singing hymns, praying and christmas are totally unnecessary...Rightly so in my opinion.
And the evolved emotional conditions you refer to, are just that.
I tend not to get too hung up on love, grief and meaning...The result of a pragmatic upbringing perhaps.
Over to you Trade.
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@Shila
Humans do better in space than robots.
Better at what?
Humans do very badly in space.
We've evolved to rely upon the life support systems of the Earth.
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@Best.Korea
Girls should be asked to pledge under oath that they were gagging for it.
Would save a lot of hassle in the long run.
Boys should similarly be made to pledge that they were cumming in their pants with excitement.
Only joking.
This is a serious topic.
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@Shila
Certainly not my role model.
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@Shila
Why don't we send robots into space?
We probably will eventually.
Though they probably won't look like Marvin.
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@Shila
I've read cases many times.
And I never dispute the probable existence of a person, who is referred to as Jesus in historical Middle Eastern myth and folk tales.
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@Tradesecret
Well as I see it, what we have is historical hearsay, jotted down some time after the event and subsequently transcribed, translated and exaggerated to fit the developing religious ideology.
So there is no actual evidence that a biblical character referred to as Jesus, died and rose again. Though certainly it can be hypothesised such, and ideas developed.
Which isn't to say that the biblical Jesus wasn't based upon a real person. Person being the operative word.
As for the emotions and values that you describe...As I understand it, these are electro-chemical responses to sensory stimuli, and therefore detectable and presumably measurable to some degree.
And for sure, people respond in widely varying ways to sensory stimuli, associated internal data management and consequential ideological conclusions.
Hence you are happy to believe without proof.
And in the absence of concrete evidence, I remain sceptical.
Though currently based upon what we do know, theological hypotheses, to say the least, do seem somewhat fantastical.
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@ebuc
Robots are.
Freaky is all in the mind.
A space robot would look at a human and think, wow look at those freaky organic blobs.
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@Shila
Nah.
Virtual reality wanking machines will be as cheap as chips.
The Chinese will churn them out in the millions.
They will also provide you with you first pack of anti bacterial wipes.
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@Tradesecret
Hi Trade.
Science is a naturally occurring faculty associated with thinking beings.
So therefore is the need to understand, theorise and explain.
So GOD the thinking being, was an obvious theoretical proposition for a thinking being to propose.
A sound enough proposition in terms of a theory of universal developmental hierarchy.
Though the associated ritual devotion that developed concurrently, brought very little if nothing to the scientific table.
Ritual devotion in the main, is an unnecessary but seemingly necessary offshoot that mortal beings developed as a coping strategy.
Sort of...Look guys, there might be a GOD, so might as well pray to it and perhaps not die...Failing that, you might die here, but will perhaps go to a magical place called Heaven.
For sure, invent a religion, build a church and write a book about it....But remember, we haven't actually substantiated the theory yet.
And so thinking man was burned at the stake for doubting GOD.
Clever stupid gene.
In my opinion.
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@FLRW
@Shila
The key to longevity is not dying.
A good set of genes for sure.
Though, it is clearly apparent that an active, healthy and mentally positive lifestyle is key to avoiding the exacerbation of common degenerative problems that will inevitably occur if one is inactive, unhealthy and mentally negative.
Nothing wrong with the occasional wank I suppose. I expect that studies have been done.
Keep it up y'all.
Sounds like BK will live for ever at his rate of self abuse.
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@Shila
And of course, they wouldn't do it for free.
As I suggested previously, trading brain cells for cash is a calculated but lucrative risk.
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@FLRW
@McMieky
Hey McMieky.
Going soft at 58 is nothing to be ashamed of.
Ask FLRW.
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@Best.Korea
Depending upon universal evolution and it's reasons and/or purposes.
AI, is likely to make most organic organisms redundant.
Whether or not it will abolish them completely, remains to be seen.
Though at this moment in time over sexed male munchkins will need to evacuate their gametes when and wherever possible.
Ovulation is obviously a less expressive process.
Though the endocrinal need for the female to fuse, is similarly weighted with profound sexuality.
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@Shila
For sure the process seems amazing, but nonetheless is what it is.
Though everything you explained is just a more technical and expanded version of my explanation.
Whereby incoming "stimuli" are processed internally, and also stored to short term memory.
Presumably any information can also be stored as long term data.
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@Mall
@Shila
I hope that I will wake up.
I assume that I will wake up, based upon previous experience and confidence in my current health.
I don't believe that I will wake up.
In my opinion, based upon technological advancement, anyone could have been reasonably confident that man would eventually travel to the moon.
Belief wasn't necessary.
Based upon the rate of technological development since JFK's day, I would further suggest that man will venture further afield...But I don't believe this.
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@Mharman
@fauxlaw
Yep, lovely poem fauxlaw.
And I had heard the same rumour.
Good to have you back.
Hope that you are well.
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@Mall
Do gooders think that they are socially righteous.
Whereas hormones are a fact of life.
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