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@Mall
Stiff-necked and hardness of heart.
Here's another.
Sure-footed and open-minded.
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@Stephen
I never vote Stephen, though our current bloke knows a good bet when he sees one. LOL.
Doesn't matter who gets in...Six months down the line and Messer's Hislop and Merton, will be ripping them to shreds on a Friday evening.
It's all entertainment.
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but I'm of the opinion that until you topple those who are really pulling the strings, then the system is never going to change.
The Establishment.
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@ebuc
I always have a problem with the idea of 2D.
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@ebuc
Don't get me wrong.
I both understand and appreciate the concept and effects of "pollution".
As a debater, I was simply putting forward a perfectly logical and alternative suggestion, that in terms of material evolution, the manipulation of matter and consequent biproducts, is as natural a process as the formation of coal or crude oil for example.
Keeping the place looking nice and tidy by hiding stuff out of sight and mind is just an extension of the thinking process, but not necessarily necessary in terms of achieving evolutionary goals...Of course, that's assuming that evolutionary goals are necessary and have a greater meaning and purpose.
Modern humans are surrounded by the products of material manipulation...Necessary and unpolluting in their functionality, yet polluting in their constructional biproducts and also in their breakdown and loss of usefulness...Double standards perhaps.
If we want to read the page Ebuc, we have to accept the consequences of the page...Otherwise it's back to a short life hunter gathering and sleeping in trees.
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@Stephen
Good morning Steven.
Tarik had a similar style to Mall.
Though I suppose it's fair to say that we all have a particular style.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
@ebuc
Flat Earth theorists would perhaps suggest that the sun does actually come and go.
Though I'm currently content with the idea that the Earth is rotating.
Maybe I'm the nutter.
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@TheUnderdog
@Best.Korea
Yep I thought that the whole idea thing was, that Stan was the personification of evil and Ged was the personification of righteousness.
Not sure about Alan.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
In a techno-controlled World, does it really matter where a techno-addicted society lives?
Red hat, blue hat, does it make a lot of difference?
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@ebuc
Pollution is a thinking persons concept.
Extracting and converting base matter and thereby producing bi-products, either is or isn't a necessary process.
Nonetheless it's what thinking person is seemingly compelled to do.
Therefore, prolific persons = prolific bi-products.
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@Mall
You either will or will not extract meaning from my narratives.
It's simply a data assessment and choice thing.
Same for me of course.
For me, holiness is word describing an abstract concept, which relative to their conditioning, some observers will convert into an emotive response.
From my point of view, the biblical narrative does not induce an emotive response.
So I've just spoken on what I know.
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@TheUnderdog
Thing is:
Violence and revenge are real time events, regardless of past events.
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@WyIted
Religion is a lifetime of hedging ones bets, based upon a fantastic hypothesis.
Whereas pregnancy either is or isn't a real time problematic situation.
Abortion is a medical or surgical solution to a problem.
Confusion tends to occur...A cynic might say deliberately.
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@Mall
As suggested.
One would assume that holiness within the context of recorded data relative to a creation hypothesis, lies not in the "scripture", but in the mind of a thinking observer.
The "book" itself is an emotionless paper and ink construct.
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@Intelligence_06
Ceding to the digital matrix is probably inevitable.
The tyranny of inorganic systems.
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@Tradesecret
I take the view.
Undoubtedly.
Data management preferences.
I currently prefer to not make such an unverifiable decision.
And given the unlikelihood of such data becoming verifiable, I expect that my preference will remain unchanged.
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@Owen_T
Abortion is a practical surgical or medical solution to a problem.
Emotional overthink is an electro chemical data response, relative to conditioned data preferences.
Religion is generally nonsense, that analogically attempts to explain the unexplainable.
Abortion tourism is a business opportunity.
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@3RU7AL
@Best.Korea
A Zedku for Harry Hill.
Land cannot be stolen.
Land is inhabited by more or less clever/stupid people.
Same old, same old.
My flag is black, red, green and white.
Your flag is blue and white.
Which flag is best?
Only one way to decide.
FIGHT!!!!!!!
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@Best.Korea
Trash is a fabrication of the environment, that becomes a part of the environment.
Trash and harm and waste and pollution are just fabricated data output.
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@Mall
A lot to be said for two parent families then?
Though I also hypothesise.
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@TheUnderdog
Stagnant ethos maybe?
In a progressive Universe?
The species didn't get where it is today by being stagnant.
I think that there is an inbuilt anti-stagnancy function.
It's just that progression is a slow process.
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@Owen_T
All inclusive data management, either for a reason or by pure chance.
Bowing and scraping to a hypothetical super-being seems a tad ridiculous to me.
But such is the impact of data transfer for others.
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@Mall
We're talking about the holiness of the scriptures.
So was I.
Data management as it were, as it is.
Overthink...The evolution of ideas...The evolution of everything.
If you see the word evolution as a threat, then alternatively you could refer to it as progression.
Holiness to Wholiness.
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@ebuc
@WyIted
Yep.
Hormones.
The need for significance...Sexual dominance...Breaks the monotony...Temporary emotional release.
And so on.
Plus overthink...One might even be tempted to suggest that everything is designed.
So we might be tempted to alter the design...But this is probably an expected design modification.
I dunno
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@Tradesecret
In the beginning something occurred.
BANG, GOD, DAVE.
Whatever.
(Pragmatists position)
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@Mall
Assuming that a GOD speaks English.
I would suggest, based upon a hypothetical GOD, that the voice of GOD, maybe hidden in the hiss of background radiation.
Of course, all GODS are hypothetical.
And of course, holiness also means a state of being full of holes.
Rather than wholiness.
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@prefix
Fascism is onomatopoeic.
Would be no good if it was known as fluffiness.
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@ebuc
The global data matrix opens up opportunities for ideological domination without the need for physical combat.
I would suggest that the need for physical combat is perhaps based as much upon the endocrine system as it is upon pure ideology.
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@Greyparrot
Murphy says, that on the way home from the pub, he met a Leprechaun.
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@Best.Korea
Anyone can cook.
It's just that some people are either stupid and lazy or lazy and stupid.
Rule of thumb:
Before taking up with a woman, always check out her mother.
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@Best.Korea
True.
One can either convert data into a positive or negative simulation.
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@Stephen
I tend to view the evolution picture as a beginning to end thing. Wherein everything is necessary.
But of course, everything might be unnecessary.
Have a good weekend Stephen.
Weather is looking reasonable.
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@Stephen
Perhaps they came, did a bit of chemistry and then left.
Not realising that they hade just invented evolution.
Or perhaps they are just made up.
Or perhaps something else.
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@3RU7AL
@Mall
clinging to unfalsifiable claims is not something to be proud of.
Yep.
Abstract concepts are what they are.
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@IlDiavolo
There are stupid people out there.
There will always be stupid people out there.
Clever people would be advised to avoid stupid people.
It really is all down to personal responsibility, for both participants.
And any form of surgical sterilization is a sledgehammer to crack a nut choice.
You might find that when you are a bit older and wiser and have a long term partner, that you actually want to start a family.
Though for clever people who have been a bit stupid, there is the option of medical and surgical remedies.
Leaving it and just hoping, is stupid.
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Same old shit.
If you've got weapons hanging around, you might as well use them before they go out of date.
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@Tradesecret
Doing what is right.
Doing what is assumed to be right relative to a collective idea of righteousness.
Therefore a social club ritual that has meaning within the context of the social collective ideology.
Whether that be a pagan ideology or a popular Middle Eastern ideology, or any other collective ideology.
As such, baptism/initiation rituals can be extremely variable.
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@Tradesecret
Acknowledgement of a logical possibility, rather than of an objective creator.
Which isn't to say that I do not acknowledge the idea of an objective creator.
Though such a creator would be subject to the same causal necessities as every other creation idea.
Same old problem.
Whereas seemingly, you unquestioningly accept one particular idea.
Though it's fair to say that such an Idea is as analogically sound as any other.
That is to say:
In the beginning there was stuff.
And that stuff developed/was developed into other stuff.
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@3RU7AL
A. Data management for sure.
B. Ditto.
C. Ditto.
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@TheUnderdog
I have been having sex for longer than I care to remember, have created only two children in that time, and my wife nor any previous partners have ever had an abortion.
I never felt unsafe at anytime.
Are you saying that you would be a "deadbeat", when it comes to sexual responsibility?
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@TheUnderdog
Currently, all jizz and tissues then?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Thanks.
That made me smile.
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@FLRW
50/50.
There either is or isn't.
The complexity of higher organic systems is quite profound.
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@WyIted
Interesting that your hypothetical baby was male.
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@Best.Korea
How can one make child porn without indulging in sexual activities with children.
And so to bed.
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@Best.Korea
Time for bed.
It's been good to exchange ideas with you.
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@Best.Korea
What chance that, when everyone is competing for resources.
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@Best.Korea
Though it later occurred to me that for child porn to be legal, then sex with children would also need to be legal.
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@Best.Korea
Anarchy doesn't have that.
That would depend upon how strong you are.
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@IlDiavolo
I would like nothing more than to be here when we make first contact with another intelligence.
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@Tradesecret
@Moozer325
Creation followed by a prolonged period of evolution seems pretty logical.
More logical than the Middle Eastern Magic Bloke hypothesis...The one where he knocked everything together in 6 days.
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