zedvictor4

Nah.

Accepting a naturalistic explanation relies upon faith.

That was my point.

Though I would suggest that a factional religion, usually stems from what went before.

The resurrection bit is just the supernatural designed to enthral the gullible. 

And then 500 years or so later along came Muhammad with his spin on the stem.

Thing is.

If you're mind savvy, you can outwardly obey, whilst inwardly ignoring.

Nonetheless.

Pay attention and you might learn something useful.

War is a unifying influence, albeit temporarily.

People coming together to defend against a common enemy.

How each side might be labelled is largely irrelevant once the bombs and bullets start to fly.

Love is an over-used word we use to describe various internal electro-chemical responses to external stimuli.

So do you love your cat, your ice cream,  your GOD, yourself or whatever? 

For sure, the Great Serpent is the original metaphor.

This is a self explanatory statement.

Therefore Faith is the only option.

And naturalism is neither here nor there

You're kind of stating the obvious.

But not proving anything more than the obvious.

"Greater good" is a phrase, that is not necessarily directly related to the general notions of good and bad.

Basic language stuff.

And not mine.

We discriminate against everyone.

And we have a tendency to be jealous and envious of those who are more successful.

And then we assume that because some Jews are successful, then all Jews are to be reviled.

Last time we were swept along in a similar wave of anti-Jewish sentiment up to 6 million people were murdered.

Success breeds envy and contempt.

And discrimination based upon perceivable difference is a default survival strategy.

Good for the economy then.

Plus:

By natural selection it takes a lot of people to arrive at one genius.

There are a lot of downsides though.

Like mass stupidity.

I was suggesting that the difference between my statement and your statement was a semantics issue.

Greater good and good have different meanings.

The greater universal good might not be good for humanity, so in that sense the greater good would be both good and bad. 

Given that as far as we currently know, there is now other intelligence that considers such issues.

One differentiates, between a greater good in terms of a positive outcome, and good and bad in terms of human behaviour.

The most foolish.

Probably not Pakistan or India, given their proximity.

Nor North Korea. Currently mostly bluster.

Russia maybe. Currently going through a difficult patch due to it's Ukrainian debacle.

Tales from G.B. for Ebuc.

Yep, 33 years ago.

My measure of Welsh temperature is based upon how many times I've been out for a bike ride and felt really comfortable in just shorts and short sleeved T-shirt.

And this year it has been just two times.

Ok, so if I went everyday that number would probably increase.

And I have been out in short sleeves on other occasions, but in conditions that I would only describe as tolerable.

This year in early summer we had a prolonged spell of dry sunny weather, though winds were persistently from the East and therefore cool.

Other than that, weather has been generally unsettled and cloudy, save for a couple of pleasant weeks in early September, when I was fortunate to be holidaying on the east coast. (Lincolnshire not Wales).

 

Late autumn and early winter have been noticeably mild, which is a GODSEND in terms of heating bills, but inevitably this means wet wet wet. Though mild certainly doesn't mean short sleeved cycling.

Really cold weather with snow usually occurs from late December through to March, though this year was predominately wet with a few dry frosty days and no memorable snow to speak of.

So to summarise this years weather, late winter into spring was wet, summer wasn't significantly hot, and late autumn into winter is mild and wet.

This seems to has been the trend over the past few years.

With regard to records.

I'm also not sure how comparable temperature recordings from specific protected locations are with overall temperature.

I would suggest that the former is likely to be higher than the latter.

Not sure what you mean.

Though genii is the plural form of genius.

Which I'm sure you already know.

I often wonder that too.

Must be something to do with all the ovine interbreeding.

Fortunately I'm British.

History is as history is recorded, and not necessarily honestly.

Not forgetting that human history goes back 300000 years or so, and not just 85 or 3085.

Perhaps we are related.

Descended from a long line of genii.

As far as the individual is concerned.

Ones ass/arse is reasonably objective.

Though moral considerations pertaining to ones ass/arse, are however, subjective.

WELL.

God is actually very very tiny.

The size of a particle.

I read this in a very very very tiny book.

And God cannot lifteth shit.

So he called in some electricians to install the lighting

And a bloke with a big machine to do the rocks and stuff.

And an ornithologist to deal with all the ground nesting seabirds.

He also invented quantum physics and can simultaneously exist everywhere.

Clever guy, but no good with big rocks.

Wales is below average as usual.

Obviously.

Stuff happens boys.

Is it a part of an intentional or inevitable process or not?

Fact is that you nor I know not.

All that I do know is that God (Christian), sin and evil are relatively recent thought constructs.

Ongoing evolution of the organic computer, upon this tiny speck of cosmic dust we refer to as Planet Earth.

And so we slowly enter a new era of non-organic intelligence.

And material development seems to be moving on OK, despite sin and evil and religious beliefs.

Though whether or not we will continue to move on towards a conclusion, remains to be seen.

Viewed like this, it would seem that most human organisms are surplus to requirements anyway, and their concepts of sin, evil and humanesque GODS are largely  superfluous and irrelevant.

So I doubt that a GOD (an overseer of the process) feels the need to intervene.

Though I tend to run more with the idea that GOD is the inevitable process.

Not necessarily sad.

But certainly a culture of inherited delusions.

As sad is not happy, and "Christians are probably happy sometimes.

And delusions in this instance are simply the transfer and repetition of misinformation.

Nice.

Well.

If there is a greater good to be achieved, then we can only assume that everything is a sequence of events that happens for a reason in accordance with a  predetermined plan.

Maybe there is a bit of flexibility built into the plan to facilitate the variability of the organic computer.

You know, religion and wars and gender fluidity and vaccinations and all that sort of weird shit.

I'm guessing that when Another Intelligence finally takes control, then the big event will progress more logically.

Effective use of sound.

Everything that occurs within a universe at any given moment is naturally occurring.

And for sure we live for a comparatively short period and then we die.

And I acknowledge that your interest concerns the establishment of social principles and social law. Whereas my views on contentious issues such as abortion have a tendency to be broader and more philosophical.

Yep.

I too am no longer shocked by what has become the new normal in terms of media entertainment.

Therein lies the application of words (generated imagery) and their definition which is inevitably variable.

So for sure, morality is hypothetical and associated (goals) objectives occur.

Though the occurring event is subject to the processes that I described above.

Wherein we rely upon a consensus as validation, which within the human network/s can become established an objective consideration.

Though human network/s, is/are undoubtedly networks of individuals rather than an individual network.

So inevitably there is neither consensus nor objective considerations that comply with a global standard.

Where?

I remember the author describing what a life was.

But not explaining what life was.

It's sounds like more bullshit.

Though if expertly diagnosed perhaps one might be entitled to compensation or special treatment.

Yep, just looked at the clip.

She's about as white and indigenous as any other white indigenous person, which doesn't explain why she was driving the wrong way in traffic.

One can only assume that she is suffering from generational stupidity because I have a ridiculous excuse trauma.

Yep, all very civilised.

And for sure, you don't survive as a "Freelance Journalist" in that sort of environment unless your mates with someone.

Whatever currently floats your boat.

Data in, data assessment, data out.

The whole process from start to finish is a simulated appraisal of an assumed reality, transferred and reassessed innumerable times.

Therein all data is super-subjective.

Well, I don't quite follow John_C.

Though I was actually challenging the author to explain what life was, so that we could establish a fundamental starting point to the issue of abortion.

I wasn't questioning the potential and status of a fused gamete.

Law is established by a subjective authority, not necessarily with total regard to all the factors that affect not only species procreation, but also life as a universal principle outside the remit of human authority. 

Here Here.

Affectism is perhaps a disorder in itself.

Praise indeed.

Bro D is Bro D.

And their attitude is not to be taken to heart.

In so much as Bro D is Bro D.

If you get my drift.

Regards 

Zed.

No time or inclination for serious debating Bro.

Just a fun thing I do very occasionally.

Stats and winning of no importance.

Regards.

Zed.

As you seemingly do not know what life is.

How can you conclude that one mass containing life has more significance than another.

I think that it's fair to suggest that arguments that do not start at the beginning, cannot be resolved.

Nope. Bro D isn't a keen debater.

And I agree, "tons of possibilities".

Nice to see a new name.

Jiz factory working overtime.

Tissue sales rocketing.

Well, such is interpretation.

Though in the commonly held story, Jesus was supposedly born of Mary, though not necessarily of Mary. 

And Joe was supposedly not involved in a gametic fusion process.

And "Since they were married their flesh became one" is sermonic hocus pocus. Though whether they were married or not is also open to speculation.

And "Of David" is similarly rhetorical, though not factually provable...Can you trace your lineage back a 1000 years.

So the tale is a mix of possibility, probability and fantasy.

Mythological in other words.

Like, I am of the line of Arthur...Prove me wrong.

I bet that someone knows where they are.

If women are the backbone, then men are the front bone.

We've made all these missiles and bombs and fancy planes and stuff.

Someone might as well use them.

Would be a shame to waste it all.

I've no idea.

I just switch the machine on and it works.

I always thought that Jesus was from the line of GOD.

Virgin births and all that.