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First thread plus post all transhumanist art here please
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Does anybody else think that it will be possible for us to gain an indefinite lifespan in our lifetime? I am doing this debate on it https://www.debateart.com/debates/1719/radical-life-extension-is-possible-in-our-lifetime
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Some people might ask why I have such a fascination with death and aging. I’m really not sure myself. All I can tell you is that it has always been there.I think it comes from just being more aware of my fear than others.Once we become aware of death, and it’s seeming inevitability, we form one of four coping mechanisms. The 4 copes are as follows;
1. Believing in a religion and hoping that, the religion will lead to everlasting lifespan
2. Seeking to be immortalized through our works, by becoming famous, making millions or getting involved in politics and other similar things to make us larger than life.
3. Seeking the fountain of youth. These are the type of people trying to literally hunt for a magic fountain, use alchemy or pursue the philosopher’s stone.
4. Having children.These are the people who think of their kids as an extension of themselves and are seeking immortality through reproduction.
Some of us don’t think we are using copes, but we are. These people are those who have no fear of death. Anyone who has no fear of death has psychologically minimized what it is. They describe it as going to sleep, or say it is just like before you are born. They’ll reassure you that death is nothing to be scared of, or that it doesn’t hurt (As if it matters)
Death is real, and it is not going to sleep. It is not “being in nothingness”. What it is, is seizing to exist. When you die, you stop existing at all.Anything you did is pointless because your world has ended.
If I don’t use copes, you might ask what I do actually do.
First, I know that life has lost all meaning if you just end up dead anyway. Even if you try to rationalize it as having been good because you helped somebody, it is pointless. The person you helped will die also, and they will be lost to the sands of time.
There are only 2 correct responses to the fact we know we will stop existing at some point. The first rational response is to just give up. It most likely is true that we will fail to cheat death. No other generation has done so, before us though many have tried. When you give up, you go the hedonistic route. Enjoy every moment to it’s fullness. Screw the future, in the future we are dead.
The second response is the more heroic one, which is to actively fight the prospect of death. To hold off on the hope that we can one day do the impossible and cheat death, and in fact by taking the more heroic route, we actually increase our chances of beating death.
I encourage all of you to take the heroic route. Watch my posts, do what I tell you todo, but using your own judgment. I have a debate with rationalmadman where I give diet advice. Take the advice I give. Soon I will give advice on what to do in terms of activism and even provide you with solid career advice to help me end aging.
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It is my opinion there are 4 possible routes to life extension and that we have, and that we should pursue all of them. Here is the 4 of them and how I approach them.
1, we achieve biological immortality in our lifetime
I am watching my health and fitness and paying attention to the latest trend so I can live long enough to live forever.
2. We achieve biological immortality after we are dead.
I have signed up for cryonic preservation at Alcor, in case I die before society achieves this, and hopefully at some point they gain the ability to revive me, and somebody is nice enough to do it. I also have had children and am trying my hardest to be loved by them, so they are incentivized to revive me after I am dead.
3. We will go to heaven
I am hedging my bets here by forcing myself to go to church and believe whatever the preacher is selling. It seems I can go to heaven through faith, so I am just trying to not be so evil God won't take me and to merely mantain faith
4. We live in a simulation
My goal here is just to make my life enjoyable for observers. When I finger myself, I do so as if people are watching. Putting on a show for our creators. When I have sex, I do the same thing. I am a bitch to inferior men who hit on me, for example because the interaction will be funnier if people are watching. I assume our creators will see I am amusing to watch and maybe save me to put me in different environments instead of just letting my program end once I reach natural death. The same way DC can not let superman die, because he is too loved by his observers.
SO how are you guys pursuing all 4 of these routes to immortality at once?
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In this debate I will be arguing that radical life extension is good for society. https://www.debateart.com/debates/1723/radical-life-extension-technologies-would-be-on-balance-beneficial-to-society
It is my opinion that arguments against it, are really no different than just rationalizations because people have accepted death as inevitable, and now cope with death by pretending like it is a good thing. Copes occur everyday and for a variety of reasons. Arguing against radical life extension would be similar to arguing against something like childhood leukemia, which a cure for would also increase some people's life expectancy.
Some argue that death is good because only the rich would benefit at first, but this is equally as silly and for similar reasons. It would be similar to discouraging the invention of a home based PC, just because it is only available to a select few to begin with. Or saying we should not drink fresh safe water, just because there are portions of the world, without access to it.
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