Instigator / Pro

ramdatt

1360

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Topic

#1890

If you want constructive information on the coronavirus, listen to Andrew Cuomo

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

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After 3 votes and with 21 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi

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Politics

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Publication date: 04.09.2020 04:12PM
Last updated date: 04.29.2020 04:51AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

oromagi

1922

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117

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97.44%

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Description

If you want to listen to an ego trip, listen to Donald Trump.

Round 1

ramdatt

04.12.2020 06:37AM

Pro

Forfeited

oromagi

04.13.2020 04:42AM

Con

Thanks, ramdatt!

THBT: IF YOU WANT CONSTRUCTIVE INFORMATION on the CORONAVIRUS, LISTEN to ANDREW CUOMO

PRO has forfeited the opening round, forcing CON to define the terms of this debate

DEFINITIONS:

IF is "the most useless word in any language"

YOU is "the challenger for this debate- me, OROMAGI"

WANT [verb] is "to wish for or desire (something); to feel a need or desire for; to crave or demand"

CONSTRUCTIVE [adjective] is "relating to construction"

INFORMATION [noun] is "things that are or can be known about a given topic; communicable knowledge of something"

CORONAVIRUS [noun] is "a member of the family Coronaviridaews, comprising viruses which infect animals and human beings, and the genome of which consists of a single strand of RNA"

LISTEN [verb] is "to pay attention to a sound or speech"

ANDREW CUOMO (born December 6, 1957) is "an American politician, author, and lawyer serving since 2011 as the 56th governor of New York"

BURDEN of PROOF:

Wikipedia advises:

"When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo."

CON interprets the resolution to mean that PRO must prove that the Governor of New York is good source of information about construction for oromagi

ARG 1.1 WRONG STATE

Oromagi lives in Colorado
Andrew Cuomo is Governor of New York
Different states have different laws governing construction

For example

New building construction is not considered an essential service in New York and so is prohibited during the course of this emergency
New building construction is considered an essential service in Colorado, however, and is not currently prohibited

Since Cuomo's state doesn't have to worry about most construction projects right now, Cuomo is not likely to provide any information vital or even relevant to construction projects in Colorado.

CONCLUSION

Oromagi doesn't plan to pursue any new construction projects in the near term but if information regarding construction during the COVID emergency becomes necessary, oromagi will rely on Colorado State Multi-Industry Construction Guidelines provided on Google Drive by the Colorado Department of Public Health and the Environment
CON looks forward to PRO's R2 reply

https://www.debateart.com/debates/1800/the-negating-philosophy-of-if

https://www.debateart.com/participants/oromagi

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Want

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/constructive

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/information

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coronavirus

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/listen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_%28philosophy%29

Round 2

ramdatt

04.15.2020 04:42AM

Pro

Forfeited

oromagi

04.15.2020 04:51AM

Con

THBT: IF YOU WANT CONSTRUCTIVE INFORMATION on the CORONAVIRUS, LISTEN to ANDREW CUOMO

PRO has forfeited BOTH rounds

ARG 1.1 WRONG STATE

extend all arguments

CONCLUSION

PRO has failed to prove that the Governor of New York is good source of information about construction for oromagi

VOTING

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